Re: [Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 December 2020 19:56:13 Chris Albertson wrote: > If the output of the PID controller is force ad the measured feedback > is the position, a P only controller will always oscillate. Friction > will damp it eventually. A negative "D" will reduce the velocity and > help with

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
The way to wire an emergency stop circuit with 2 or more things that can trigger it, is to have it a normally closed circuit and every stop switch, mechanical or electronic, in series. That way when anything triggers a stop it opens the circuit, the controller senses that and stops sending

Re: [Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-08 Thread Chris Albertson
If the output of the PID controller is force ad the measured feedback is the position, a P only controller will always oscillate. Friction will damp it eventually. A negative "D" will reduce the velocity and help with overshoot and "I" is required if the final result has an offset. The root

Re: [Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 December 2020 19:05:52 Chris Albertson wrote: > What next? You have set P-gain but what about I and D gains? > That has been tried, gently, but doesn't seem to have the desired effect. > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Lo all; > > > > I'm back to playing

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 08 December 2020 18:17:11 Sven Wesley wrote: > Friends, > > I am in the process of refreshing a CNC that has been running in > "temporary state" the last 12 years, time to give it an overhaul. I've > found the magic little piece we all call 7i96. It will do magic. > > The servo drives

Re: [Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-08 Thread Chris Albertson
What next? You have set P-gain but what about I and D gains? On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > Lo all; > > I'm back to playing with the servo again, following John Thorntons > instructs from the wiki article. And I note a couple things. > > 1. The pid_a.FF1 value has

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Sven Wesley wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 00:53:25 +0100 From: Sven Wesley Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input Den ons 9 dec. 2020 kl 00:37 skrev Peter C. Wallace : On

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread John Dammeyer
That sounds a lot like the UHU_ESTOP circuit. I've attached a PDF of it. Maybe that will help. John > -Original Message- > From: Sven Wesley [mailto:svenne.d...@gmail.com] > Sent: December-08-20 3:17 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Sven Wesley
Den ons 9 dec. 2020 kl 00:37 skrev Peter C. Wallace : > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Sven Wesley wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 00:17:11 +0100 > > Friends, > > > I am in the process of refreshing a CNC that has been running in > "temporary > > state" the last 12 years, time to give it an overhaul.

Re: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Sven Wesley wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 00:17:11 +0100 From: Sven Wesley Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input Friends, I am in the process of refreshing a CNC that has been

[Emc-users] 7i96 multi wire input

2020-12-08 Thread Sven Wesley
Friends, I am in the process of refreshing a CNC that has been running in "temporary state" the last 12 years, time to give it an overhaul. I've found the magic little piece we all call 7i96. It will do magic. The servo drives have been running flawlessly and the plan is to keep them. They have

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko G213V failed yet again.

2020-12-08 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Gene, > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > On Tuesday 08 December 2020 02:04:49 John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > I think I'd be measuring the ohmage and inductance of each winding > > > in that motor. A partially shorted winding would be on my suspects > > > list. > > > > > > They

[Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Lo all; I'm back to playing with the servo again, following John Thorntons instructs from the wiki article. And I note a couple things. 1. The pid_a.FF1 value has little or no effect on the amplitude of the error. So that probably needs addressed by educating me on how its calculated.

Re: [Emc-users] Sample code

2020-12-08 Thread ken.strauss
Those look useful so thanks! I'm doing the software that receives the serial data so I should able to read and process everything fast enough to not require flow control. Even if I miss a message the next update message will be good enough. I'll probably include a start of message and definitely

Re: [Emc-users] Sample code

2020-12-08 Thread Chris Albertson
I wanted to do about the same thing and found this: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/halmodule.html Also in addition to the above you will need to write to a serial port. Here is a walkthrough: https://pyserial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shortintro.html Are you designing the USB device? If so

[Emc-users] Sample code

2020-12-08 Thread ken.strauss
I am attempting to produce a Python component which periodically outputs X/Y/Z/A coordinates via a serial port that is actually a USB connection. This is similar to what is required for pendants that display the current coordinates. Can anyone suggest a tutorial or source code that could be

Re: [Emc-users] [was Spindle indexing] now rigid tapping help

2020-12-08 Thread Przemek Klosowski
And a/o about 13:30 local, I am alone again. My Dee has passed. > Gene, my sincere condolences. Please let me express my respect for how you took care of your loved one, giving companionship and comfort. You are an inspiration to us young'uns. ___

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko G213V failed yet again.

2020-12-08 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Roland Jollivet [mailto:roland.jolli...@gmail.com] > Solder a bridging wire under the pcb directly to the output Fet or whatever. > And/or maybe solder wires from the posts to an off-board connector so there > are no connectors on the board itself. > I'm not sure which FET to solder to

[Emc-users] Gecko G213V failed yet again.

2020-12-08 Thread Roland Jollivet
Solder a bridging wire under the pcb directly to the output Fet or whatever. And/or maybe solder wires from the posts to an off-board connector so there are no connectors on the board itself. On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 06:39, John Dammeyer wrote: > The attached photo is of the last time but this