Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Bob McGwier
My experience with the AMD II-X4 machine from Wally world is identical to Brett. I ran 192000 with 256 and the rest at 128 and I NEVER ONCE heard a glitch with VAC running WDM-KS, 8000, 512 and any of JT65-HF, FlDigi, MMTTY, MMSSTV along with logging programs DXlab with spot collector, dxview,

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Bill
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Tim Ellison, W4TME t...@flex-radio.com wrote: Neal just told me... Right now I would recommend the Asrock 880GM-LE micro-ATX board with the AMD X4 970 chip, its an absolute smoker!! I did one this weekend and its really (really) fast and really cheap. -Tim

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Tim Ellison, W4TME
Depending on the mobo, the old p/s may not have the correct connectors/voltages necessary for the new board. Also, 250 watts may be a bit low. My minimum for multi-core machines is 500W It the p/s is on the edge, the PC will spontaneously crash and try to reboot. If under powered, it will

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
250 will definitely NOT work! In addition to it possibly having a lot of inefficiencies and hash, you can see the weirdest things happen with an underpowered PSU (things like devices disappearing from the device manager, no either net port when its built into the motherboard, etc.). 400w is the

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread frantek
I am using the 6 core and recommend a good 650 watt supply. It screams on an asus mb with 8 gb ram and dual 1gb video cards paralled together. Cpu percent running several apps at once is max of 12 percent. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Tim Ellison, W4TME

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Heitmann
A disk drive failure in a (very old) system we used as a Linux file server prompted me to build a new computer to replace it recently. I was going to reuse the old case and power supply, but felt the 300W supply was a bit under powered for the new motherboard. Looking for a replacement

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Alan NV8A
On 12/19/11 07:33 am, pierceday wrote: Several months ago someone (Neal?) wrote of a particular AMD chip and board combination that was preferred over others for SDR computers. Could anyone help me out with that info? This is not the board that Neal recommended, but it is the little brother

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread pierceday
Thanks, Alan, but with all the good reports on the 400 buck Wallmart special, why bother to build? Planning a run today to see if they're still in stock. Pierce W4ZDI -Original Message- From: Alan NV8A Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:19 AM To: FlexRadio Reflector Cc: pierceday

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Bill
I think my 250W PS is the right type- it seems to have the connections I need. But it sounds like it is either definitely, or likely to be, underpowered. It came with a Dell Studio 540s and runs an Intel core2 Duo. The link to Newegg's cases is also appreciated.

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Ross Stenberg
Bob's Wally world $400 special that he recently mentioned (AMD Athlon II X4 Quad-Core 645 processor 3.1GHz, 2MB Cache) runs nicely for him on a 220 watt PS. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Bob McGwier n...@flexradio.com wrote: ...I cannot explain why this inexpensive machine performs the best of anything... = Purely a guess, but maybe it has to do with the very stripped-down mother board in these bargain-basement machines. My mobo has many,

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
To be honest, Bob's machine is underpowered also and it will be interesting to see if he is still happy with that part of the machine 6 months from now. The original computer I started selling 3 years ago had a 350 watt PSU and that was just the bare minimum and if anyone plugged anything extra

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Jim Jannuzzo
I have one of those in a box downstairs, like David Bowie in The Hunger. Look closely at the manufacturer's product page, and you'll see that the steel is .6mm thin, which is very very thin. I never had thought about steel thickness until I bought that case. Jim KJ2P Date: Tue, 20 Dec

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Jim Jannuzzo
I have one of those in a box downstairs, like David Bowie in The Hunger. Look closely at the manufacturer's product page, and you'll see that the steel is .6mm thin, which is very very thin. I never had thought about steel thickness until I bought that case. Jim KJ2P Date: Tue, 20 Dec

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Ross Stenberg
I have a similar computer with 8 Gb of memory and when monitored with a Kill A Watt type device never goes over 100 watts even rug full bore. I know that it is only reading average power consumption but it typically sit at about 65 watts. On 12/20/2011 10:21 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: To be

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
You pays yer money, you take yer chance. 73 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.netwrote: I have a similar computer with 8 Gb of memory and when monitored with a Kill A Watt type device never goes over 100 watts even rug full bore. I know that it is

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Ross Stenberg
Bob's comments about his new computer prompted me to send this Email that I wrote a few weeks ago and never sent. I should note that I have been preaching simple AMD quad core computers since purchasing a $400 machine at Staples over six months ago that has been working flawlessly for me. I

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
Ross There is nothing controversial in your note. The only controversial thing is your belief that a 200 watt power supply is enough for these configurations (and my guess is that even the ones marked 200 watts are using congressional budget office calculations to get that). Trust people who

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread William H. Fite
Pierce said, with all the good reports on the 400 buck Wallmart special, why bother to build? I think there are at least four reasons. First,you can pick and choose exactly the components that you want. For example, I am partial to Asus/ASRock motherboards, I like EVGA graphics cards, and I like

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Bob McGwier
Warning to all! It is PCIe only. Get the recommended firewire!! ! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone -Original message- From: pierceday pierce...@comcast.net To: Alan NV8A n...@charter.net, FlexRadio Reflector FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 15:27:10

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Bob McGwier
I'm going to replace PS, and then hard drive with upgrades eventually. I am backing up all logs for N3AO, N3KN, N1SMM, and myself starting in a little over a week with one of these outboard drives. They last a long time because they shut down when not being accessed. And regularly from

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Heitmann
Well, I have two of them, in service, working FB. They are not THAT much thinner than what they replaced. ... But I would not recommend using it as a step stool ;-) YMMV Mike, N0SO From: Jim Jannuzzo jsqu...@msn.com To: n...@att.net Cc:

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
Part of the downside of the wall mart $400.00 computer is that its limited in expansion. Its small, which I wanted, I have no place to put a tower case in the shack and have it close to everything. There are only 2 open slots, a pci and a pci-e, the power supply likely would not support a video

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Alan NV8A
But, as others have pointed out here and elsewhere, just because the Brand Y Model X4580AZ that Joe bought last week works fine with his Flex and PowerSDR, that doesn't mean that the ostensibly identical one you buy this week will work: it may have some significantly different internals

[Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
I think Brett's space-factor is the new black as far as computer systems go. Now that we want bigger and more screen, we want to see few and smaller boxes. Bob's idea of turning his computer 180 degrees so the back is the front is a great one. I do a 90 degree turn myself, so I can get to both

Re: [Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Neal Campbell abrohamn...@gmail.com wrote: ... the Hercules MP3 controller. MAN WHAT A GREAT ADDITION!!! Yes, shouting!... == Ah, yes, another convert joins the ranks. Of course, everyone has different tastes in ergonomics, but to me the usability of the

[Flexradio] Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Robert Costa, KB6QXM
Neil, I am kind of confused on your statements about touch screens with the flex. The ham in Italy proved it possible with HP touch screens and cube 3d. It is posted on Youtube. The proof of concept has already been proven. I am dumb founded on why not hams have not replicated that model.

Re: [Flexradio] Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Mack McCormick
I use the Acer T230H touchscreen on two different computers with my Flex. They work great. You can see how I have them mounted on my QRZ page within arms reach. I've used them for well over a year. Requires Windows 7. I frankly never use the touch feature but have them to show non-flex hams all

Re: [Flexradio] Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Bob The question isn't its technical capability, its whether I actually use it. HP had a tough time selling those systems and I think that have pulled that line off the market, which would indicate that either it was not engineered properly for the price, or its not that useful an

[Flexradio] Fwd: Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Hess
If it's anything like trying to control PowerSDR via TeamViewer from my iPad it would be for the birds. I realize it is not though. TeamViewer is pretty limited in control as a true touch screen linked to the computer isn't. I can see having a touch screen to control certain aspects of the

Re: [Flexradio] Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Ross Stenberg
If you are referring to the HP touchpad then I believe they pulled it off the market because they can't compete with the iPad and it's army of apps. Software rules. I use my iPad remotely with PWRSDR as a touchpad and while being cool...not all that practical. -Original Message-

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Eric Lowell
I'd be interested to hear which PCI-e Firewire cards work. I've tried 2 different cards in my PCI-e slot and neither worked reliably. Regards, Eric On 12/20/2011 12:49 PM, Bob McGwier wrote: Warning to all! It is PCIe only. Get the recommended firewire!! ! Sent from my Verizon Wireless

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Eric I use the SIIG NN-E20012-S2 PCIe 2 Port card and its really good. Haven't seen a failure yet! 73 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Eric Lowell elow...@satnetmaine.comwrote: I'd be interested to hear which PCI-e Firewire cards work. I've tried 2 different cards in my PCI-e slot and

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread William H. Fite
Siig NN-E20012-S2 works perfectly. Have used two of them in two different computers. Does require power, though, through a standard Molex cable. Bill On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Eric Lowell elow...@satnetmaine.comwrote: I'd be interested to hear which PCI-e Firewire cards work. I've

Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread Dave Beumer WØDHB
I've been using mimo 7 USB touchscreen (like Beppe uses ) with custom software for satellite work and Digital work and it works great for me. Check out these guys for reasonable cost touchscreens. http://www.monoprice.com I have installed the 15 and 17 as Point of Sale terminals at a couple of

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
If its the $400.00 wall mart computer, it has a pci and a pci-e slot and cards with the via chipset and TI chipsets seem to work fine. I got two off Amazon, best connectivity (TI chipset) and Roswell (VIA chipset). I can detect no difference between them running my 3000 and windows 7 (wall mart

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
I don't think you need to add power unless you are going to power a remote device over the firewire cable. My Roswell card has a power connector but I don't use it. Brett - Original Message - From: William H. Fite omni...@gmail.com To: Eric Lowell elow...@satnetmaine.com Cc:

Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: Touch screen

2011-12-20 Thread William H. Fite
I think devices like the Hercules offer valuable options to persons who prefer knobs and switches. Don't hear any condescension there because there isn't any. It is likely that a great many people who were brought up on knitches (knobs + switches) are going to prefer them as long as they

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread William H. Fite
It is true that the Siig card will run without power but, since virtually everyone has spare molexes hanging off their power supplies (and the card comes with a splitter, anyway), why not power it up? It was, after all, designed to run that way. And who knows when you may want to connect a

Re: [Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 02:21 PM 12/20/2011, Neal Campbell wrote: Another toy I got a couple of weeks ago (and haven't had a chance to report back to you guys) is the Hercules MP3 controller. MAN WHAT A GREAT ADDITION!!! ABSOLUTELY - I got one a couple weeks ago and am delighted with it. Enough knobs and

[Flexradio] FS : FLEX 1500 and K3NC computer

2011-12-20 Thread gosier
Selling to get something with more horsepower QRP is great but sometimes I need a break . Flex 1500 QRP SDR transciever ... with K3NC dedicated computer just built for the Flex 1500 wireless Keyboard and mouse and Acer monitor . over $1400 new asking $900 and I ship (UPS)

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Alfred Green
On 12/20/2011 9:56 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: Ross There is nothing controversial in your note. The only controversial thing is your belief that a 200 watt power supply is enough for these configurations (and my guess is that even the ones marked 200 watts are using congressional budget office

Re: [Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Alan NV8A
On 12/20/11 07:02 pm, Jerry Flanders wrote: Another toy I got a couple of weeks ago (and haven't had a chance to report back to you guys) is the Hercules MP3 controller. MAN WHAT A GREAT ADDITION!!! ABSOLUTELY - I got one a couple weeks ago and am delighted with it. Enough knobs and buttons

Re: [Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Ross Stenberg
Next thing you someone is going to put in a box with embedded processors and a display in the front full of knobs and switches and name it a K radio. I LOVE THIS THING! I hope Flex can find a way to incorporate it into their future plans - it definitely enhances PowerSDR.

Re: [Flexradio] AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
Over a long series of various computers, most on the low end side, I have had one video card failure (Hercules). Some were very old, the one my wife uses was old when we got it from my sister, who got it off the home shopping network (Compaq) about 12 years ago or more. Some of the hard

Re: [Flexradio] New toys - was AMD chip

2011-12-20 Thread Tony Estep
What is the model number of this gizmo? Googling Hercules MP3 Controller gets me several different devices. And does its use require a special version of PowerSDR? Alan, you can get info at: http://www.dh1tw.de/powersdr-ui There are many pages there to explore, and the goodies can

Re: [Flexradio] got it working again...

2011-12-20 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
I am still playing with trying to get rid of the hidden config files and can not find them. I looked in every folder on the hard drive and can not find anything after I uninstall the program, yet when I reload, all my configs are there. Windows 7, I even went to the dos prompt and there is