Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-24 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: Not trying to belabor a point, just trying to get understanding of how this all works. I would think that JVM only has to start once during a processing instance. This is correct. The start and warp-up overhead accounts for the difference between the 2s for page rendering and

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-24 Thread Clay Leeds
J, J.Pietschmann wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: Not trying to belabor a point, just trying to get understanding of how this all works. I would think that JVM only has to start once during a processing instance. This is correct. The start and warp-up overhead accounts for the difference between

FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Howdy folks, I have a file where I've commented a fairly large section of my source XML file (commented areas affect FLOW content--so it won't print out so many darn pages! :-). I've found significant discrepancies involving the timing of outputting the commented version vs. the uncommented

FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Sorry for the re-post. I'd neglected to include some information on the XML file info summary for the un-commented version. I've included it, as well as a summary of the FOP .4 .5rc rendering times. You can delete the previous post. :-) Howdy folks, I have a file where I've commented a

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hey Maestro! Have you tried to run only the XSLT part of it? Do that and compare execution times there. That should be interesting. Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email:

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Jeremias, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hey Maestro! Have you tried to run only the XSLT part of it? Do that and compare execution times there. That should be interesting. Jeremias Maerki I don't know how to run only the XSLT part of it... Can you give any more information as to what you're

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Run the XSL transformation alone. Using fop.bat you've done: XML XSL-FO --- PDF (XSLT) (FOP) The XSLT part of it is this: XML XSL-FO (XSLT) (I hope the ASCII art comes out ok) Since the comments should in theory not reach FOP it is my guess that

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Run the XSL transformation alone. Using fop.bat you've done: XML XSL-FO --- PDF (XSLT) (FOP) The XSLT part of it is this: XML XSL-FO (XSLT) (I hope the ASCII art comes out ok) Since the comments should in theory not reach

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 23.01.2003 22:15:17 Clay Leeds wrote: It helps. However, I only have fop-0.20.4 (.5rc) installed. I also notice that in the lib/ folder I've got xalan-2.3.1.jar. Will this suffice, or do I need to install the full version of xalan. Also, the current version of xalan is 2.4.1... should I

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Jeremias Maerki wrote: On 23.01.2003 22:15:17 Clay Leeds wrote: It helps. However, I only have fop-0.20.4 (.5rc) installed. I also notice that in the lib/ folder I've got xalan-2.3.1.jar. Will this suffice, or do I need to install the full version of xalan. Also, the current version of xalan

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 23.01.2003 22:47:20 Clay Leeds wrote: snip/ That worked great (except I had to change the version numbers for xerces (xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar) xalan(xalan-2.3.1.jar) (which was probably expcected :-): C:\Program Files\Java\fop-0.20.4java -cp

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
Jeremias Maerki wrote: On 23.01.2003 22:47:20 Clay Leeds wrote: snip/ That worked great (except I had to change the version numbers for xerces (xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar) xalan(xalan-2.3.1.jar) (which was probably expcected :-): C:\Program Files\Java\fop-0.20.4java -cp

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
I ran the XSLT transform twice (just out of curiosity), and there was about 300ms difference between the two identicalk runs. However, it is more in line with the results we were expecting. However, it was still about 15-18 seconds shorter than my previous results (diligently watching the

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread J.Pietschmann
Would you think we should put a Xalan.bat/Xalan.sh file into the FOP distribution? (or xslt.bar/xslt.sh) J.Pietschmann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: It took 2 seconds of rendering time compared to 65 seconds of time taken from command line [Enter] to FOP output completion. This latter time includes JVM startup, loading all the code and whatnot. Occasionally the OS is busy and it takes longer to load an executable and the

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Arnd Beißner
J.Pietschmann wrote: Would you think we should put a Xalan.bat/Xalan.sh file into the FOP distribution? (or xslt.bar/xslt.sh) Very good idea. Probably most people create these batchfiles/shellscripts anyway. Might also lead to more people trying the transformation step separately to see where

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Clay Leeds
J.Pietschmann wrote: Would you think we should put a Xalan.bat/Xalan.sh file into the FOP distribution? (or xslt.bar/xslt.sh) J.Pietschmann That's an intriguing idea. Assuming that it would help trouble-shoot problems like this, that might be good for this type of testing. Also, I noticed a

RE: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Patrick Dean Rusk
. -Original Message- From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections Would you think we should put a Xalan.bat/Xalan.sh file into the FOP distribution? (or xslt.bar/xslt.sh

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Patrick Dean Rusk wrote: I think it would be preferable to have a FOP option to output the intermediate FO file that it uses in its processing, similar to the way many compilers can output some of their intermediate files. It's well-known feature request, see

Re: FOP 0.20.4 5rc timing w large COMMENT sections

2003-01-23 Thread J.Pietschmann
Patrick Dean Rusk wrote: Just today I've finally diagnosed a strangeness in my program to the fact that using FOP to transform gives a different result sometimes than doing the transform manually and following it with a FOP run on the .fo file. In my case, the difference was from having the