J.Pietschmann wrote:
[..]
BTW we should track down and delete all binary distribution
no.xml appears first in FOP 0.19.0.
containing the compiled hyph file from the three GPL sources.
The source distributions are not an immediate risk and can be
The source distribution also includes fop.jar
+1
On 25.02.2003 15:42:02 Christian Geisert wrote:
I think it's sufficient to remove the patterns (both .xml
and .hyp) from the distributions in question and then add
an 'a' after the version number.
What do you think?
Jeremias Maerki
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Peter B. West wrote:
As long as we are still able to recover complete historical binary
distributions. If a problem arises over a past distribution, we are far
better off if we can refer to the actual distribution, even if that is
no longer available for general
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote:
I am donating the hyphenation file to the ASF, and although it would be
nice to keep the copyright, I think that would hamper future enhancements,
or not?
As long as you don't choose to revoke the license for all
future and past versions (rather
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
The important part for us is that the LPPL is not viral, with
the exception of the filename prohibition. In particular it
allows distributing derived work (read: binary FOP distributions)
without the code.
Yes, but see point 4, for example. That will be difficult for the
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 20.02.2003 23:58:48 J.Pietschmann wrote:
BTW we should track down and delete all binary distribution
containing the compiled hyph file from the three GPL sources.
The source distributions are not an immediate risk and can be
kept. Who has access to the distro
Victor Mote wrote:
I don't think the LPPL works at all for us. The preamble says: You may
distribute a complete, unmodified copy of The Program. Distribution of only
part of The Program is not allowed.
Well, as I already wrote in another post, it's not really
clear what The Program is in the
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
You could be right about apply the Apache licence. Does everbody agree
in this case?
Unless the old license somehow prevents it, we can choose any
license we like for any Derived Work we can claim copyright for
(golly... though shalt not and a sentence with a preposition,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Creating patterns for Portuguese is much simpler than with English.
Thank you for the explanation. I *knew* there should be something
easier than english. Or german. Or hungarian, FTM. There is still
an unresolved issue: why do so many people still use english? :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am donating the hyphenation file to the ASF, and although it would be
nice to keep the copyright, I think that would hamper future enhancements,
or not?
As long as you don't choose to revoke the license for all
future and past versions (rather than forking or
On 20.02.2003 23:58:48 J.Pietschmann wrote:
Victor Mote wrote:
I don't think the LPPL works at all for us. The preamble says: You may
distribute a complete, unmodified copy of The Program. Distribution of only
part of The Program is not allowed.
Well, as I already wrote in another post,
On 17.02.2003 17:36:13 Victor Mote wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Todos, as I see them:
- Remove all incompatible hyphenation files from CVS which are not clear
to be ok.
- Find Apache-compatible hyphenation files.
I found a generic TeX distribution that came with my Red Hat (the
]
18/02/2003 19:23 cc:
Favor responder aAssunto: Re: Licence issues in
hyphenation patterns
fop-dev
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
I found a generic TeX distribution that came with my Red Hat
(the relevant
files are installed into /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen). I /think/
these are standard generic TeX files, which would be subject
to Knuth's
license, which IMO is Apache-compatible. It
On 18.02.2003 22:07:13 J.Pietschmann wrote:
snip/
The LPPL'd hyphenation have to be checked thouroughly because
of LPPL 1. Condition 2 does not apply. Condition 7 is fulfilled
by keeping the file under LPPL. 3 is probably trivially ok as
mentioned above. 4, 5 and 6 can be easily checked and
On 19.02.2003 17:56:27 Victor Mote wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
I found a generic TeX distribution that came with my Red Hat
(the relevant
files are installed into /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen). I /think/
these are standard generic TeX files, which would be subject
to
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 18.02.2003 22:07:13 J.Pietschmann wrote:
snip/
The LPPL'd hyphenation have to be checked thouroughly because
of LPPL 1. Condition 2 does not apply. Condition 7 is fulfilled
by keeping the file under LPPL. 3 is probably trivially ok as
mentioned above. 4, 5 and
And, well, I hope our PetroBras friend changed enough of the
pt.xml to claim copyright, as he assigned it summarily to
the ASF... nice, but a real legal burden! I checked it in, but
now I think I should have asked for a paper first.
I didn't modify the old pt.xml file, I wrote a new one
Christian Geisert wrote:
And IMHO (and IANAL etc.) this is the crux as the Apache Software
License does not forbid renamming the files.
Yes, that's hairsplitting and comletly against common sense
but remember we're talking about legal issues her.
I meant the following LPPL condition:
3. You
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't modify the old pt.xml file, I wrote a new one entirely from
scratch. ...
Sorry for being unclear and short-spoken, I didn't meant to offend you.
However, did you really start with an empty file in an editor and typed
in all the pattern strings?
The issues are
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 15.02.2003 18:05:31 Christian Geisert wrote:
[..]
sidenote
While doing a quick search for other hyphenation optiones I've
found a hyphenation dictionary which is based on the TeX
hyphenation tables and licensed under GNU LGPL ...
/sidenote
Do you have a link? LGPL
On 17.02.2003 16:16:55 Christian Geisert wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 15.02.2003 18:05:31 Christian Geisert wrote:
[..]
sidenote
While doing a quick search for other hyphenation optiones I've
found a hyphenation dictionary which is based on the TeX
hyphenation tables and licensed
* Jeremias Maerki; [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14 Feb, 2003 wrote:
tr.xml
Can't find original file.
No licence. Check with author.
Well, since I sent out the Turkish hyphenation file I should know where
it comes right. The trhyphen.tex is installed from the SuSE 8.1 distro
toganm@earth:~/hangar rpm
I can do that. Thanks for the info.
On 17.02.2003 16:47:17 Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
* Jeremias Maerki; [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14 Feb, 2003 wrote:
tr.xml
Can't find original file.
No licence. Check with author.
Well, since I sent out the Turkish hyphenation file I should know where
it comes
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
[..]
So remove everything excpet fi, pl and pt?
Yep, can you do that or shall I?
I'll do it.
[..]
IIUC we don't have to change the way the pattern are read, the problem
is the distribuition.
No. The patterns in FOP are currently in some XML format. The patterns
On 17.02.2003 17:11:42 Christian Geisert wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
[..]
So remove everything excpet fi, pl and pt?
Yep, can you do that or shall I?
I'll do it.
Thanks!
[..]
IIUC we don't have to change the way the pattern are read, the problem
is the distribuition.
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Todos, as I see them:
- Remove all incompatible hyphenation files from CVS which are not clear
to be ok.
- Find Apache-compatible hyphenation files.
I found a generic TeX distribution that came with my Red Hat (the relevant
files are installed into
Christian Geisert wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
- Remove all incompatible hyphenation files from CVS which are not clear
to be ok.
So remove everything excpet fi, pl and pt?
Ouch. I don't think we can distribute FOP without english
hyphenation.
I just had another look at the LPPL and the
J.Pietschmann schrieb:
[..]
Ouch. I don't think we can distribute FOP without english
hyphenation.
Sure we *can* ;-) But if it's a good thing ...
I just had another look at the LPPL and the other files.
The LPPL file I examined seems to be harmless. The license
says we can distribute the
:
Assunto: Re: Licence issues in
hyphenation patterns (was:
13/02/2003 23:52 HyphenationTree bug and Portuguese
hyphenation file
That's correct. When you donate source code (be it Java or something
else) to a project of the Apache Foundation it gets the Apache licence.
You must also be entitled to transfer the rights on the code to Apache
Foundation. For example, when you write code when working for a company
you may not
I'd say we can't keep something like that within our codebase because it
contradicts the Apache licence. It is entirely possible that someone
sells a product that uses FOP. That wouldn't violate the Apache licence
but the licence of this hyphenation file. Recent discussions on various
Apache
I'd say we can't keep something like that within our codebase because it
contradicts the Apache licence. It is entirely possible that someone
sells a product that uses FOP. That wouldn't violate the Apache licence
but the licence of this hyphenation file. Recent discussions on various
Apache
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