: Framers De la
part de Harding, Dan
Envoyé : 24 janvier 2023 09:50
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Per discussions on this list from September and October of 2021, Frame works
fine under Windows 11. Am
, 2023 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...
Are you saying that FrameMaker 10 will not work with Windows 11?
Mike
On 1/12/2023 3:14 PM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:
> ...but with the move to Windows 11, we have to convert th
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> Subject: RE: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...
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> Ugh, I had a longtime c
Are you saying that FrameMaker 10 will not work with Windows 11?
Mike
On 1/12/2023 3:14 PM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:
...but with the move to Windows 11, we have to convert those, too.
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Ugh, I had a longtime client that switched from Framemaker to Flare because
they initially thought that they wanted only OLH, but when their clients
complained that they just wanted their gold standard PDF manuals back, sigh. .
. .it was too late. We spent an extra 20% on screwing around
Sadly, we have switched to Flare. We still have some legacy documents in
FrameMaker 10, but with the move to Windows 11, we have to convert those, too.
I'm on this list "just in case", but I expect to disappear in a few years.
We had a good time while it lasted...
Fei Min Lorente
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] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...
On 12 Jan 2023 at 16:47, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> I don't think it's a List issue.
I fully agree with your arguments, Tammy. From time to time I look into the
archive -
but this gap (2022-11-01 until 2023-01-12 = 2 months) is unique in the hist
For price reasons, I stopped upgrading at FM 2012 ... don't use it much anymore
except to update old docs.
Z
Scott Prentice said:
> It doesn’t help things when the subscription price of FM goes up by 30% ..
> and TCS up 40%! I did hear that Flare jumped 50% though, so apparently it’s
> a
On 12 Jan 2023 at 16:47, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> I don't think it's a List issue.
I fully agree with your arguments, Tammy. From time to time I look into the
archive -
but this gap (2022-11-01 until 2023-01-12 = 2 months) is unique in the history
of
Framers.
I'm retired since 15 years
not seen any emails in this list since ...
It doesn t help things when the subscription price of FM goes up by 30% .. and
TCS up 40%! I did hear that Flare jumped 50% though, so apparently it s a
trend? Sounds to me like they are getting a bit desperate, no?
...scott
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> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 4:45 PM
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> Well, my name is not a regular one, but I've been reading this list for many,
> many years and I
It doesn’t help things when the subscription price of FM goes up by 30% .. and
TCS up 40%! I did hear that Flare jumped 50% though, so apparently it’s a
trend? Sounds to me like they are getting a bit desperate, no?
...scott
Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity.
Well, my name is not a regular one, but I've been reading this list for
many, many years and I'm very fond of so many of you!
Happy New Year.
Regards,
Theresa
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Oh Keith, your name was definitely one of the names that was a constant when it
came to the regular list crowd!!!
> I think you are right, Tammy. FrameMaker is an old-school product and Adobe
> doesn't seem to be doing much to promote or improve it. I watched the webinar
> for the new release
>We typically see the most traffic when something new or radically different is
>either announced or launched<
and doesn't work as expected or is designed so poorly, that its use is far from
intuitive or user-friendly, if I might add that caveat. Unfortunately, the most
traffic these days is
I think you are right, Tammy. FrameMaker is an old-school product and
Adobe doesn't seem to be doing much to promote or improve it. I watched
the webinar for the new release a few months ago and I was distinctly
underwhelmed. That's not going to bring new users to the list.
In my own case, I
t.
-Dan
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I don't think it's a List issue. It's just tha
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I don't think it's a List issue. It's just that the vast majority of users on
the list are getting long in the tooth (if they haven't already retired), so
list traffic has dropped exponentially. Makes me feel a tad lonely and sad
after being an active member for almost 25 years!! The names that
Yes, it has been a longish dry spell on Framers. Possible reasons:
- a long holiday break
- we have all become experts
- or ??
I do miss the liveliness (and informativeness) this list used to provide. The
position of FrameMaker in the marketplace probably doesn’t support that any
longer. It
not seen any emails in this list since ...
... November 1 of 2022.
Am I off the list somehow?
Z
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Apparently not.
So it’s not just me….
Jack DeLand
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> On Jan 12, 2023, at 2:23 AM, Johan Anglemark wrote:
>
> According to the list archive the message you replied to (and changed
> the subject of) was the last one previous to your reply. So over two
> months' worth of
According to the list archive the message you replied to (and changed
the subject of) was the last one previous to your reply. So over two
months' worth of silence, yep.
-j
On 2023-01-12 5:05 fm, Mike Wickham wrote:
I see your message. Not sure when I saw the last message,
I see your message. Not sure when I saw the last message, though.
Mike
On 1/11/2023 9:17 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
... November 1 of 2022.
Am I off the list somehow?
Z
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... November 1 of 2022.
Am I off the list somehow?
Z
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