Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-05 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
> each segment has a slightly different length. About ten years ago, I was showing (nostalgia) in class, pondering the duration of the shots, looking at a watch occasionally as the edits went by, and I had a kind of revelation: Each shot is a 100' load. I don't know if any one's written about

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-05 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
So, what’s the verdict here? 1. the critic was wrong 2. there are two variant versions of (nostalgia) on DVD ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread John Muse
According to my count, all of the narrations begin 5 seconds (up to 4 frames at 24fps, less in most cases) before the next image appears, with one second of black between the burnt and the "raw." > But Segal is so wrong: no narration begins 15 to 20 seconds *after* the next > photograph

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread John Muse
But Segal is so wrong: no narration begins 15 to 20 seconds *after* the next photograph appears; they all begin before. That's not a precision problem; that's a version problem. At least I think so. She can't have made this kind of mistake, no? But now I have Premiere open and I'm measuring

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread Michael Zryd
I don’t think there are two distinct versions. I suspect (though to be honest I haven’t used a stop watch to time it) that Shira may be ascribing a precision to the film which it in fact lacks—though the ascription is entirely understandable since, as a foundational ‘structural film’ using a

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread John Muse
But is the Treasures version the one Segal describes, and is that the, um, authorized version? And is the one on the Odyssey collection, which Brand worked on too, authorized as well? Are there two distinct versions circulating? I just had that Treasures comp in my hands, but I returned it to

Re: [Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread Mark Toscano
The transfer on the Treasures IV set was supervised by the inimitable Mr Bill Brand, who knows the films intimately, and also has helped supervise restorations and digital mastering of numerous other Frampton films. Mark T On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Ken Eisenstein

[Frameworks] (nostalgia) versions...

2016-03-04 Thread John Muse
Having checked with the usual suspects, I'm at a loss to explain the discrepancy between the version of (nostalgia) on the 2012 Criterion disk and the version described by a few folks, one being Shari Segal, who in a 2005 essay entitled From the Private to the Public" writes: > Each voice-over