Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Manish Jain
Hi, I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? I ask this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low

Portaudit strange behavior.

2009-07-01 Thread Arek Czereszewski
Hi, On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) I have: # portaudit -Fd auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps portaudit: Database too old. Old database restored. portaudit: Download failed. #

Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and displaying login

Re: Portaudit strange behavior.

2009-07-01 Thread dan
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 08:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote: Hi, On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) I have: # portaudit -Fd auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps portaudit:

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee in the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says Program exited normally.. so it's not a program crash i guess. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am

RE: s...@home

2009-07-01 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Paul B. Mahol [mailto:one...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 June 2009 23:49 To: Stefan Miklosovic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: s...@home On 6/30/09, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I would like to install s...@home client

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been fixed already. cheers. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: On 7/1/09,

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol one...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee in the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says Program exited normally.. so it's not a

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been fixed

Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I

Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
Manolis Kiagias wrote: This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up

Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Barnard
Hi, I have installed Google Earth via ports but cannot get it to run. If i run it from console, i get this: googleearth ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgthread-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I have searched for the library it

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful? cheers. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol one...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173).

Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote: LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing. If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required to be

gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-07-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:41:13AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0) g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0) GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only --

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful? Not hard. Please report problem to freebsd developers because everything points it is FreeBSD problem. cheers. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: On

Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I

Re: Portaudit strange behavior.

2009-07-01 Thread mfv
On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote: Hi, On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) I have: # portaudit -Fd auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps portaudit:

Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread mfv
On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote: Hi, I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? I ask this because the

Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:14:10AM -0400, mfv wrote: On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote: excluded. Nevertheless, I use portmaster daily and am very pleased with it. With thanks to Doug Barton. portmaster rules, excellent tool, Doug is a star! -- Anton Shterenlikht Room

Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
thanks for the help. i submitted a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136223). cheers. alex Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: On 7/1/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful? Not hard.

Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:32:47AM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: Hi, I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? The fetches

Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and other values, but it won't associate with the access point or establish a useful connection. I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a

Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Robert Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and other values, but it won't associate with the access point or establish a useful connection. Does it get

Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-07-01 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote: On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased to

scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Alexandre Vieira
Hi folks, I'm having a little problem. For exambe in ksh: $ z=0 $ y=1 $ x= $ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]} My problem is getting back the value of the variable using variables to refer to the variable name (confusing). I.e $MACHINE_DISK$z[$y] . Using

FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4

2009-07-01 Thread Frank Steinborn
Hi! I got a new toy here, a RaQ 4. As this thing has no real BIOS, it was even hard to get a custom Linux distro installed. For long time it was not even possible to use it with a Linux 2.6 kernel. This is resolved in the meantime, so I'm running Gentoo with an unmodified 2.6 at the moment.

Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Maholone...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/1/09, Robert Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and other values, but it won't associate

Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Christopher Ryan Halbersma
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote: LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing. If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required

Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-07-01 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qua, 2009-07-01 às 13:51 -0400, Trey Sizemore escreveu: On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote: On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Continuing

Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:40:00 +0100, Alexandre Vieira nul...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm having a little problem. For exambe in ksh: $ z=0 $ y=1 $ x= $ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]} My problem is getting back the value of the variable using

Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Grant Peel
Hi all, I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. I am now wanting to clone this to all the

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. I am now wanting to

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Grant Peel
Thanks Sir! What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see any fstab problems? -Grant -

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e.

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. bsdlabel -B disk (or disks1 and fdisk -B disk if you use MBR partitions at all). Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. this is no difference Can I assume the the da

Re: FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
As i figured out, there is a ROM on it with a mini-Linux, that will look for an ext2/ext3 filesystem and for an /vmlinux.bz2 on /boot. Then it boots from there. This is really strange and seems to rule out FreeBSD completely. Looks like you'll have to rewrite /boot/loader sources to 1) access

Re: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's better to use gmirror per partition. Like this? # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? ___

Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]} $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]} ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution Thanks in advance for any tip install bash :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on any language be it bash, ksh python or C

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Grant Peel wrote: Thanks Sir! What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see any fstab problems?

Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
hi there, i've been getting this warning for ages now: (process:7757): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. and really like to get rid of it. i searched google but couldn't find a real solution. my locale settings are: LANG=C

load kernel from different media

2009-07-01 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Hi all, I cannot boot my motherboard with the default kernel on 7.2-RELEASE (or any other iso's I have tried). It panics if device sbp is in the kernel. So far I've got things working by putting the hard disk in another machine, installed the OS and rebuilt a kernel without sbp, then

Oracle, php and a Fog of Confusion oci_connect

2009-07-01 Thread Martin McCormick
I have a fragment of php code which connects to an external Oracle data base. It looks mostly like: ?php //open connection to database $conn = oci_connect(db_name, PASS_WORD, host.name.OKSTATE.EDU); if (!$conn) { $e = oci_error(); print htmlentities($e['message']);

Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to

Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Robert Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Maholone...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/1/09, Robert Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and

Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread james
Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces

POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Jon Radel
Daniel Underwood wrote: I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. Why? -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: load kernel from different media

2009-07-01 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qua, 2009-07-01 às 22:40 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu: Yes you can. put your kernel (the one that works) on a DVD/CD assume that your rootfs on the HD is on ad0s1a, /usr is on /dev/ad0s1e with all the /boot directory. than boot from dvd/CD with the HD on the machine too. on the startup,

Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread b. f.
Manish Jain wrote: ...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? make checksum, yes. Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not covered in the manpage. It respects IGNORE (it checks for

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Christopher Ryan Halbersma
QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? None, I'm a BSD kindof guy :). Although Damn Small Linux and Tiny Core are nice ideas. I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. Indeed why? -- Using

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Underwooddjuatde...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. of all the Linux distros I have tried,

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Daniel Underwooddjuatde...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. Although I am hesitant to contribute to

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
of all the Linux distros I have tried, the least confusing is Gentoo Gentoo portage is kinda like FreeBSD ports Yes, I'd like to give Gentoo a try. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 01 Jul 2009 at 16:12:40 PDT Christopher Ryan Halbersma wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? None, I'm a BSD kindof guy Same here, but my other machine is a Mac (still BSD under the hood).

boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come installed with Windows Vista. Obviously, my first action item will be removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS. Due to the need to be up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll be installing Linux

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. Debian is the one I can almost

FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too limited to confidently draw conclusions: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Underwooddjuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too limited to confidently draw conclusions: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ amd64 -- Glen Barber

Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
amd64 Ah-hah. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux

2009-07-01 Thread Nerius Landys
I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come installed with Windows Vista. Obviously, my first action item will be removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS. Due to the need to be up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll be installing

Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwooddjuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's right now the big limitation for me is you can not have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64 progress has been made

Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
And what about TX/RX signal? I don't know where to look for that. :) Could you put backtrace somewhere? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html Backtrace from crashing with a Belkin ndis: (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 #1 0xc055bcc3 in

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Martin McCormick
Daniel Underwood writes: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I like Debian and ubuntu which is a Debian distribution but that is not to say that other distributions are poorly done. Part of my preference is nothing more than that is what I

Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread kalin m
But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? it's a gsm/sms

Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Manish Jain
b. f. wrote: Manish Jain wrote: ...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? make checksum, yes. Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not covered in the manpage. It respects

Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread kalin m
nevermind... thanks... kalin m wrote: But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a command access to a DSL modem

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? Actually, I'm not a Linux user. But Linux was my first step into using UNIX on a x86 PC. More than 10 years ago, I started with

Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:56 -0400, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a