for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Vaclav Kadlcik
Hi, since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs and finally: for i in

Help solving the sysadm's nightmare

2012-07-19 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Hi: I have inherited a problem that is no cause for envy, the previous administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say, it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is critical there is no room for

Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare

2012-07-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/07/2012 07:55, Erik Nørgaard wrote: So, how can I - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files (or windows executables)? file(1) should help. - determine which users actually need read or write access to these files? This is in most cases entirely a local

Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say, great. rm -rf /whatever would be even better! it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is critical there is no room for interruption of service. Now,

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
developed countries. Not really sure what you wanted to imply, as SMB looks like americanism to me. as well as SOHO. As not the first time, some people here when lacking arguments say i work for larger company. We have more servers in one place. Esp. second is nopt something to be proud

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m is enough to make data

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the Gospel According to Wojciech is -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever learn that, Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more. Aggression is normal today from such people, that have good position in some

Huawei E173 modem doesn't work on FreeBSD 9

2012-07-19 Thread Arif Budiman
Hi Folks, I'm failed to access E173 modem on FreeBSD 9.0 using serial port. Yes, I got information from the web that this device is not supported yet by the default driver, and the u3g driver need to be updated. (

Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-19 Thread from_mars
18.07.2012 4:01, Wojciech Puchar пишет: and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any

Re: How to donate code

2012-07-19 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0300, Виталий Туровец core...@corebug.net a écrit : Hello, The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't get lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be

Re: How to donate code

2012-07-19 Thread Виталий Туровец
2012/7/19 Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org: Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:53:00 +0300, Виталий Туровец core...@corebug.net a écrit : Hello, The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't get lost. Be

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread jb
Jerry jerry at seibercom.net writes: ... I couldn't have said it better myself. Wojciech lives in his own little world, which is fine as long as he doesn't try to visit mine. He sounds like he works at a small Polish SMB, more commonly referred to as a SOHO in more developed countries. I

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself. everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right. Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on his/her brain that we all have but rarely use. To be ever able to use ones brain

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Carmel
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. no. for modern hard drives it was already

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
for very old drives it may not Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement? sorry but i didn't save that article on hard drive. So no proof if you don't believe me i've actually read it. The main point is that you have - track - intra-track gap - finite precision of

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs and finally: for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done That created

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs [...] May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... what's wrong

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Vaclav Kadlcik kro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Jakub Lach
This topic went totally off, but anyway there are interesting bits, do you say that e.g. Gutmann method is totally unneeded? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/fsck-on-FAT32-filesystem-tp5727015p5728126.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Carmel
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself. everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right. Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on his/her

for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Robert Huff
Vaclav Kadlcik writes: since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. Excellent work. Two questions: 1)

Job Targeting

2012-07-19 Thread Hannah Marshall
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Michael Ross
Am 19.07.2012, 13:27 Uhr, schrieb Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl: This topic went totally off, but anyway there are interesting bits, do you say that e.g. Gutmann method is totally unneeded? You may be interested in the epilogue to Gutmann's paper:

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 Oracle oracle donated everything to apache foundation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
can add FreeBSD knowledge to their CV. That statement goes beyond stupid. At some point, everyone is a You proved well enough about what stupid means. esp your mail carmel...@hotmail.com that's truly a mail address that System Admin should be proud of ;) At least you don't worry about

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 Oracle oracle donated everything to apache foundation. Yes, but not before creating a big mess, stagnating development and forcing the core team out of

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/19/12 09:41, Vaclav Kadlcik wrote: Hi, since there has been various issues building LibreOffice from ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread jb
Wojciech Puchar wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: ... This should clear up some confusion. Will it ? Disk Wiping One Pass Is Enough http://www.anti-forensics.com/disk-wiping-one-pass-is-enough ... --- http://www.anti-forensics.com/disk-wiping-one-pass-is-enough-part-2-this-time-wi

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Robert Huff
Alexander Kapshuk writes: Just upgraded libreoffice to version 3.5.5 using ports. Didn't have any trouble installing is, nor upgrading it. deletia What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using the ports? Check the last few weeks of office@

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/19/12 15:46, Robert Huff wrote: Check the last few weeks of office@ and ports@; there are multiple people (including me) reporting problems, especially with 9.recent and -Current. Robert Huff Could be because I'm running the RELEASE version then.

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Jakub Lach
Follow up is even more interesting than epilogue, especially: Another problem with the article is the fact that a magnetic force microscope, which is a scanning probe microscope, is nothing like an electron microscope, and yet the article repeatedly refers to using an electron microscope to

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On 19/07/2012 09:15, Wojciech Puchar wrote: no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m is enough to make data unreadable. for very old drives it may not How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache? The Secure Erase command

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:15:17 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. no. for

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache? how about being able to restore random 0.1% of former user data. Not really useful. Flash cache is quite recent idea, nobody serious would like to scrap such a drive instead of reuse.

Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare

2012-07-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:55:29 +0200, Erik Nørgaard wrote: Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are actually executable or just plain files. For differentiating files' nature, use file file(s) to

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
agencies recover overwritten data? at http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html at first - it should be asked can agencies recover your data without being overwritten first. just use geli(8) then second problem is even less problem. Finally use geli (or similar method)

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:26:57 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: agencies recover overwritten data? at http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html at first - it should be asked can agencies recover your data without being overwritten first. Sure, because it's stored

lpd+samba question

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is there any simple way to get data about workstation that prints using lpd from samba? what i need is to get IP/name of workstation that queued a print job to lpd subsystem through samba. or is the only way to change everything to print to lpd directly using lpd protocol? quite a bit of

zfs tuning on ia64

2012-07-19 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Most of http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide is for i386 and amd64. I'm using zfs on ia64 r238540. Not sure how much of the advice given apply in my case. I have: # grep ZFS /var/run/dmesg.boot ZFS filesystem version: 5 ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) # zpool upgrade -v |tail

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Alejandro == Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org writes: Alejandro Yes, but not before creating a big mess, stagnating Alejandro development and forcing the core team out of Oracle to create Alejandro LO and I guess [pure speculation] that in the end it Alejandro backfired and Larry (aka we'll simply

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread John Levine
What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using the ports? The first problem is that it now demands clang-devel, which conflicts with chromium which still wants regular clang. Any idea how likely it is that chromium will build if I tell it to use clang-devel? R's, John

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The only good thing they seem *not* to have screwed with is VirtualBox. not really. The backend part of virtualbox is great. The frontend with is UUIDS for everything, XML and other trash is plain terrible. But still - nothing better exist for the need now.

Re: lpd+samba question

2012-07-19 Thread Konrad Heuer
I didn't try by myself, but what about something like print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J%J -U%I -r %f in smb.conf? I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c near line 87 to #define OTHER_USERID_CHARS -_. /* special

Re: lpd+samba question

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I didn't try by myself, but what about something like print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J%J -U%I -r %f in smb.conf? I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c near line 87 to #define OTHER_USERID_CHARS -_. /* special