Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Arthur Chance
On 05/29/13 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: openvpn and tap device

2013-05-29 Thread Arthur Chance
On 05/28/13 23:14, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all! I installed openvpn (I use it like client). There isn't any openvpn_enable=YES and openvpn_if=tap in rc.conf but after start openvpn I can connect to openvpn server and clients. ifconfig doesn't show me any tap interface is it a correct situation?

Re: openvpn and tap device

2013-05-29 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 05/29/13 09:36, Arthur Chance wrote: It's a while since I looked at OpenVPN, so this is from unreliable memory, but IIRC it uses tap devices under Windows and tun devices under Unix(ish) OSes. It can use tun OR tap device on both Unix(ish) (and IIRC the same holds for Windows). Do

Re: using ports or gems (easy_install)

2013-05-29 Thread Zane C. B-H.
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:06:15 +0200 Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Le 28/05/2013 ? 14:50:25+0700, Olivier Nicole a écrit Hi, I would like to known how you manage your gem (ruby) or easyinstall (python). Do you use ports ? or directly gems or easyinstall ? or both ?

How can I unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel?

2013-05-29 Thread Alex Liptsin
Hello. I am using FreeBSD9.1 [root@h-qa-033 ~]# uname -a FreeBSD h-qa-033 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 28 11:26:45 IDT 2013 root@h-qa-033:/usr/obj/lab/odeds/freebsd/9.1.0/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 OFED and IB support are compiled in kernel. 1. How can I unload/load modules

Re: How can I unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel?

2013-05-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
[root@h-qa-033 ~]# uname -a FreeBSD h-qa-033 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 28 11:26:45 IDT 2013 root@h-qa-033:/usr/obj/lab/odeds/freebsd/9.1.0/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 OFED and IB support are compiled in kernel. 1. How can I unload/load modules that complied inside

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread jb
Fred Morcos fred.morcos at gmail.com writes: .. The improvement effect can be noticed on large inputs. These algorithms will most probably perform quite badly on small inputs. I think your concern has been addressed in review of various algos where base case identification helped to avoid

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
what is stopping from interpreting 1h in similar manner to 3600? i.e. from now No, this is user-friendly, and thus can't be done :) But if think a second, sleep is used rarely by average users, mostly by programmers and other scripts, and they should know better what they are doing. Seriously,

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 May 2013 07:13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-**

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Fred Morcos
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Fred Morcos fred.morcos at gmail.com writes: .. The improvement effect can be noticed on large inputs. These algorithms will most probably perform quite badly on small inputs. I think your concern has been addressed in

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Birch
Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent at least useful option. like sleep -f 1h (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1 hour, and etc, and not get sleep at all.). Do one thing, and do

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
I'm just saying that there's pretty space for discussion. If someone raised this now, why not discuss it now. If you sleep one hour, do you sleep one hour from now or one hour from the system clock which may change in the next hour? If it's the system clock, you may sleep for ten minutes or ten

idle process keeping cpu 150% busy in freebsd 9.1

2013-05-29 Thread Kostas Oikonomou
Hello, I am new to FreeBSD. I just installed 9.1-RELEASE-p3 (comes with PC-BSD 9.1) on an HP Pavilion s5100z. The machine has a dual-core AMD Athlon 7750 processor. What happens is that when I am doing nothing on the machine, one core is about 150% busy running the idle

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:36:42 + (UTC) jb wrote: But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. No, there are thing that are better on disk than in memory. The most common example is tmpfs. It's much better that files left on tmpfs can

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:57:22 +0200 Fred Morcos wrote: Linux has a sysctl variable vm.swappiness which you can set to 0 or 1 out of 100. Not sure how to achieve the same on FreeBSD, maybe one or more combinations of the following? You'll probably make things worse. vm.stats.vm.v_swappgsout:

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Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 29, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Jason Birch jbi...@jbirch.net wrote: Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent at least useful option. like sleep -f 1h (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 12:04:47 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: On 29 May 2013 07:13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: Right. The fact that on very rare occasions a minute may not have 60 seconds in it plus many other corner cases in calculating the current wall-clock time is an amusing

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:01:53 -0400 Paul Kraus wrote: Agreed. When I first started dealing with Unix professionally (1995, I started playing with Unix-like OSes almost 10 years earlier) I was taught that each Unix command does one thing and does it well. It would still just be doing one thing

Routed(8) resurrecting deleted aliases

2013-05-29 Thread Arthur Chance
I've got a gateway machine running routed. If I use ifconfig to temporarily add a /32 alias to an interface to give it an alternate identity on that interface's network, and then delete the alias, it reappears in the routing table shortly after. Use route delete to clear it and it reappears

Little help with radius

2013-05-29 Thread Leonardo Santagostini
Hello list, I was trying to do ssh authentication using Radius but, Radius server is on the AD not in my FreeBSD box. Anyone can give to me a clue? Thanks in advance, Regards/Saludos.- Leonardo Santagostini ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: openvpn and tap device

2013-05-29 Thread Pol Hallen
It's a while since I looked at OpenVPN, so this is from unreliable memory, but IIRC it uses tap devices under Windows and tun devices under Unix(ish) OSes. Do you see tun0 appear? sorry for the mistake: tun device I don't have any tun devices but I can use openvpn to connect to other vpn

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:19 AM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: - overcommitment of memory (a bluff asking to be punished by OOM killer) No self respecting Unix has an OOM by default. - OOM killer Are you suggesting FreeBSD does this crap? Besides, they allow sloppy/dangerous programming.

looking for command to display default route ip address

2013-05-29 Thread Joe
Hello list How do I find the ip address of the default route? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Normal dynamic wear leveling on a modern SSD will be better than imposing an FS- backed swap for 4GB partion occupying a small fraction of total drive space. Quite so. - M

Re: looking for command to display default route ip address

2013-05-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Joe fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: Hello list How do I find the ip address of the default route? The next-hop address, or the local address? The former can be easily parsed out of the netstat(1) output, the latter isn't necessarily unique. ___

Re: looking for command to display default route ip address

2013-05-29 Thread Rick Miller
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Joe fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Hello list How do I find the ip address of the default route? The following examples return the next hop, usually a router. # grep defaultrouter /etc/rc.conf defaultrouter=192.168.0.1 or # netstat -r Routing tables Internet:

Re: How to switch Datgram/Connected mtu modes?

2013-05-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:43:29 am Alex Liptsin wrote: Hello. I work with FreeBSD 9.1 and Mellanox devices. How can I configure MTU in connected mode on FreeBSD 9.1? In Linux to enable connected mode for interface ib0, I enter: echo connected /sys/class/net/ib0/mode Switching

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 29 May 2013, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: Normal dynamic wear leveling on a modern SSD will be better than imposing an FS- backed swap for 4GB partion occupying a small fraction of total drive space. And you

Re: looking for command to display default route ip address

2013-05-29 Thread markham breitbach
route -n get default On 13-05-29 12:03 PM, Joe wrote: Hello list How do I find the ip address of the default route? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: And you don't think the presence of TRIM--where the SSD can actually know which blocks are no longer in use--is worthwhile? As a whole, TRIM is worthwhile. However when an SSD is overprovisioned it provides a lot of

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
PS -- Moderating questions@ is just awful. I'm disappointed. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: And you don't think the presence of TRIM--where the SSD can actually know which

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Modulok
I'm personally a fan of a forest-green bike shed myself... It would still just be doing one thing - sleeping. I agree. Perfect solution fallacy aside, a sleep option with basic time increments would be useful for real-world purposes. I'm in favor of computing it as a multiple of seconds as

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread jb
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:36:42 + (UTC) jb wrote: But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. No, there are thing that are better on disk than in memory. The most common example is

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Linux utilizes swap space as part of virtual memory. As does every other Unix. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: swap partition leads to instability?

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there is some confusion about the diff, if any, between paging and swapping. Paging - copying or moving pages between physical memory (RAM) and secondary storage (e.g. hard disk), in both directions. Swapping - nowdays is

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Tue, 28 May 2013 at 19:01 -, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi. Is there no built-in way of making sleep sleep in increments of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU sleep can be invoked like sleep 1h for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we can only use seconds, which is kind of

Re: How can I unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel?

2013-05-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:54:59 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: [root@h-qa-033 ~]# uname -a FreeBSD h-qa-033 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 28 11:26:45 IDT 2013

Re: Any arp table size limitations?

2013-05-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Peter Andreev andreev.pe...@gmail.com writes: We are connecting to an IXP, they have tested our FreeBSD 9.1 server and said we can store only about 600 MACs simultaneously. So I'd like to ask if there is any arp table size limitations and if so, how we can increase the limit? I looked at the

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Re: Any arp table size limitations?

2013-05-29 Thread Peter Andreev
Thank you Lowell, Yes, that's an Internet exchange point. We have done a similar test and didn't found any problems, I asked on maillist just to be sure. 2013/5/30 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org Peter Andreev andreev.pe...@gmail.com writes: We are connecting to an