;)
Steve
I'm willing to let the emacs users have their emacs, and to enjoy my vi.
I guess the longer name (emacs) suits people who like pressing more
buttons to accomplish the same amount of work anyway.
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On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote:
IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not
to copy - a test shouldn't come after
the interpreter plenty of time to notice there's
an unless immediately following it
Obviously, the real answer in the case of Ruby and Perl falls somewhere
around 1.5, but 3 is still a believable-sounding excuse, and perfectly
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so far off-topic for this list, I'll return you to
your regularly scheduled programming.
But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other
resources, including free tutorials online.
print Just another Perl hacker,; # the original
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if to be clearer than unless when there's an else, so
instead of making that if into an unless, I'd just swap the
conditional actions.
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On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:33:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
anybody know if we need a new C [[maybe D]] that would be
allowed to grow?
There's already a D. I don't really know much about it, though.
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in the CPAN.
My favorite is Getopt::Long.
For simple scripts I tend to use Getopt::Std instead, but Getopt::Long is
great too. These two are pretty much the standard for command line
option handling and help message generation in Perl.
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have?
You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this.
That looks like a handy tool. Is there a version that will run on
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The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60
with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong?
error message:
CPU doesn't support long mode
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:30:48PM -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 3/5/2010 6:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60
with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong?
error message:
CPU doesn't support long mode
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:10:33AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 28/02/2010 01:56:27, Chad Perrin wrote:
Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL
stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of
code redistribution. If you sell GPLed
distribution projects have been threatened
with lawsuits for referring to upstream sources, even while the sources
were still there, because those projects were identified by the people
making such threats as commercial enterprises. Probably the highest
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, or a package deal with something else, or perhaps free
support above and beyond what's available from the FreeBSD project
itself, and so on).
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What's the simplest/easiest way to use secure memory (i.e., memory that
won't be written to a swap partition) from within a program (written in
Ruby in this case) on FreeBSD?
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options carefully.
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accept the GPL2)
They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness.
Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers.
Sometimes, license choice *is* a good reason to make some sacrifices in
short-term convenience.
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On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for
ports you'll install a compiler from ports.
Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that
FreeBSD was moving to Clang.
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On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:24:41PM +0200, Eitan Adler wrote:
It happens to be a Lenovo laptop. If I could get a copy of the
specification it would make a nice project for me - writing a driver -
*wonders*
Which Lenovo laptop model is it?
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in that regard. Something I said may turn out to be mistaken.
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to make it *safely* delete directories. You will have to delete any
empty directories yourself if you use this script as written.
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 03:13:51AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
losers= Dir[#{Dir.getwd}/**/*]
keepers = IO.readlines ARGV.shift
startpath = ARGV.shift
if startpath
Dir.chdir startpath
end
Oops. Speaking of using at your own risk . . .
That line that reads
` good?
I've already used `portupgrade polkit` here, and I haven't seen any
problems yet, but then I haven't restarted anything that relies on polkit
for a while either.
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of
those certs you saw in GPA, then reinstalled, and didn't realize the
plugin for your MUA went away with the uninstall? I'm just guessing.
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itself, without your knowledge?
What *is* your MUA, anyway?
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:49:16AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 04:26:07PM +0800, wsk wrote:
hi,
upgrade all software after upgrade to 8.0. and now found that
pidgin login qq failed. any ideas?
If you're talking about AIM or ICQ, it seems
are still being explored, and the Pidgin people are apparently trying to
get AOL to clarify its best practices recommendation for how to handle
logins, but in the meantime this work-around might help solve the problem
you're having with logins.
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compiling something and checking/installing
dependencies and so on
Middling:
check for conflicts late
Worst:
don't check for conflicts at all
Yeah, sounds about right.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:11:32PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
preface each line:
:%s/^/new word /g
The trailing g isn't needed because you only need one substitution on
each line. Thus:
:%s/^/new word /
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anyone to make some kind of grave error involving the
assumption that WinME used NTFS. . . .
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understand is FreeBSD is Not Linux
How sure are we that davidoweir3 wasn't just asking about how to use SSH
to connect to a Linux machine from a FreeBSD machine?
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have overlooked the part where Carmel mentioned writing
regexen for use with sieve+Dovecot and possibly with Postfix. I get the
impression from that and later comments in the thread that Carmel is
particularly focused on sieve's regex syntax, which may use libc's regex
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or FreeBSD.
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an SSH client on the host OS
to talk to the guest OS, and copy from the SSH client to wherever else
you need the data in your host OS.
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?
On FreeBSD 7.2, I see it at:
/usr/share/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
If you are on a different FreeBSD release version, I suppose your mileage
may vary.
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.
If it's an option for you, you may want to look into disabling soft
updates as well so that you don't have to just hope that everything gets
synced before the end of the world. Depending on your usage, however,
this might result in unacceptably poor performance.
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 02:02:51AM +0100, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
On Friday 18 December 2009 19:34:18 Chad Perrin wrote:
When I tried asking this before, it was evidently during a period that
the mailing list was down, so I'll try again:
After updating software on a FreeBSD 6.1 system
direction.
Does tcpdump do what you need? It's pretty slim (makes Wireshark look
huge by comparison) and easily scripted (since it's a command line tool).
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:19:42PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:07:41PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
precisely. in this case, every paragraph that is not on a
newline wraps. so anything that has an EOL is a new
paragraph.
If I understand you correctly
to use fetchmail or getmail, and not still
trying to use Sendmail instead?
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that might cause conflicts with
paragraph formatting while doing a substitution.
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:22:17AM +, Thomas Adam wrote:
2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com:
Someone asked me recently whether a GUI for file permissions management
Anything like: mc, worker, rox, etc?
Those are all filesystem browsers/managers -- right? I've already told
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 07:23:33PM +, Thomas Adam wrote:
2009/11/19 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com:
Those are all filesystem browsers/managers -- right? I've already told
the person who asked that many such applications have that kind of
functionality. In my initial question
that kind of tool?
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for work to run a release candidate
OS.
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for pointing me in the right direction.
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with the default
/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file?
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it part of base instead of
Sendmail, but of course it's entirely possible that I've overlooked some
potential problems. The licensing is right, too (unlike, perhaps, that
of Postfix).
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Thanks -- that could help (depending on the backup system, as you say).
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How does one undo a `make deinstall` when `make reinstall` fails?
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
How does one undo a `make deinstall` when `make reinstall` fails?
Do you have a package of this port handy?-- try doing a pkg_add of
that...
It is, for the moment, a hypothetical
system from backup.
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of
physical storage.
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the majority of the
stuff you want to keep between installs will reside. Basically
everything else within /usr (with the possible exception of
/usr/local/etc) is just what happens when you install and configure your
system in the first place.
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On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:19:00AM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:25:35PM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
You can fork the code, rename it, whatever, but you can NOT change
of /home it's /usr/home, and creates a
symlink from /home to /usr/home for the sake of convenience. Are you
sure that isn't what happened?
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considered copyright infringement!
There. I fixed it for you.
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is a blight.
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On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:56:53AM +0200, Rolf G Nielsen wrote:
Where do I vote to have them continue forever not creating a FreeBSD
version of that crap?
If you s/Free/Open/ I think the question answers itself.
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in particular, or to any product in
that specific niche?
I don't know about the other guy, but I find the Adobe Flash Player
plugin pretty odious. Unfortunately, I also find Swfdec and Gnash pretty
substandard as well.
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.)
That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license instead of the
GPL.
5. I seem to be pre-occupied with the video compression, ignoring
sound.
PS: was this too off-topic?
Maybe? I don't know. It's an interesting topic.
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:28:20AM -0400, telmn...@757.org wrote:
I'd be willing to bet there is little to no commercial demand for Oracle
on FreeBSD.
I wonder how much difference Oracle availability on FreeBSD would make,
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clarify your needs so we can help you
satisfy them.
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to solving the problem.
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necessary, enable
it for one specific connection using the -X option for SSH.
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Quoth Alan Kay: I invented the term 'Object-Oriented', and I can tell
you I did not have C++ in mind.
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hoststat/usr/local/sbin/ssmtp
purgestat /usr/local/sbin/ssmtp
If this email gets through to the list, consider my problem solved and
myself suitably chagrined at having overlooked something that should have
been so obvious to me.
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On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 02:19:22PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:01:23 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote:
How long has this been broken for 7.2? Considering all the stuff that
depends on linux-pango, I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed.
It will be broken until someone
just my educated
guess, and not confirmation, though. Hopefully someone else can give a
more definitive response.
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Quoth Antoine de Saint-Exupery: A designer knows he has achieved
perfection not when there is nothing left
at least let you see what's going wrong!
I should have thought of that myself. Thanks for having patience and
giving me an informative response.
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Quoth C. S. Lewis: We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong
road
, in any case.
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Quoth Bjarne Stroustrup: An ugly operation should have an ugly
syntactic form.
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to be well-supported by open source operating systems, and
come with trackpoints.
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Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this,
immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your
code after you
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:07:04PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:51:29AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I just turn off the touchpad in my ThinkPad's BIOS/CMOS settings. That's
pretty much the *first* thing I do with a new ThinkPad, before I even
install a halfway
packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
! x11-toolkits/linux-pango (unknown build error)
How can I fix this? My Google and FreeBSD documentation searches have
proven fruitless.
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Quoth Paul Graham: SUVs
don't know of any netbooks that come with trackpoints.
I hope you get an answer on this list so I'll get one as well (with the
obvious preference for FreeBSD, or at least *some* BSD Unix,
compatibility).
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Quoth Philip Machanick
accounting.
It's definitely not the sort of thing you'd want to use for tax return
preparation, but it works fine for tracking budgets and accounts.
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Perrin's Principle of Exclusion: The strength of any system is inversely
I missed with the setup?
I haven't seen up and scan used together like that before. Is that
supported?
Have you tried the following?
# ifconfig ath0 up
# ifconfig ath0 list scan
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Quoth Christopher Hitchens: What
wants
to spend any time learning it. Just giving the Linux command for
something means you're unnecessarily narrowing down the number of people
who can give you an answer.
Don't confuse the issue with facts!
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Quoth
with the install, the
network setup, or the remote machine.
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Quoth Anonymous: It is easier to measure something than to understand
what you have measured.
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:42:00PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I guess
that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:15:15AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I
guess that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes.
What version number would you call some time ago? I just used Ctrl-Q
about six
problems by upgrading to 3.0 again.
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Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: Don't take anything you do on-line
lightly. Caveat Clicker...
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On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
of the open source community, that way.
Be happy that there at least is an info
printers, I rather suspect it'd be
much the same.
Anyway, best of luck with it.
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Quoth Malaclypse the Younger: 'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.
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, frankly -- because the faster they release, the faster they get
dropped from support, basically, and I still haven't gotten the knack of
figuring out which releases are going to be the extended support releases
when it comes time to pick a minor version number to install on a new
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Quoth Christopher Hitchens: What can be asserted without proof can be
dismissed without proof.
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libraries the app in question might pull in).
Your mileage, of course, may vary.
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Quoth Thomas McCauley: The measure of a man's real character is what he
would do if he knew he would never be found out.
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system, not a distro.
DesktopBSD and PC-BSD, on the other hand . . .
I've been far too pedantic for one email on such an inconsequential
subject. I'll stop now.
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Quoth H. L. Mencken: Democracy is the theory
and it'll close Firefox immediately.
Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :)
Of course. :-)
. . . just as soon as it gets ported to FreeBSD.
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Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: Don't take anything
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:10:49AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
Perfect, yes! Midori is precisely what I need! Many thanks.
I use Midori as a backup browser sometimes, but be aware that it's pretty
buggy, and interface design could use a little help.
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:10:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
That's easy. Just press Ctrl+Q and it'll close Firefox immediately.
Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-)
I don't
it, if that makes any sense.
Without further ado, here it is:
http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=981
I hope that helps.
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Quoth Larry Wall: It's more important to be a good driver than to have
seven feet of sponge rubber all around
without
having to use email clients I don't like.
joe has also the advantage that it behaves differently depending
under which name your start it.
What do you mean by which name? I'm curious.
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O'Rourke's Circumcision
vim a go. It's what I've been contemplating for quite some
time anyway, and the recent post brought it to the surface.
Good luck!
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Quoth Sean Reifschneider: If java had real garbage-collection, it would
delete most programs
(errno = 2)
Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should do with this?
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A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with
top-posting?
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:02:01PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
Unfortunately, I haven't gotten far enough to see if anything was lost,
because now Firefox 3.5.x won't start:
Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 986 in file
/usr/src/lib
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:17:53PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
Okay -- where do I get the sem kernel module?
It is included in FreeBSD, just type 'kldload sem' to load it. If you
want to have loaded it automatically on boot, add the following to
your /boot
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:28:41PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
# kldload sem
kldload: can't load sem: No such file or directory
# locate sem.ko
/boot/kernel/sysvsem.ko
/boot/kernel.GENERIC/sysvsem.ko
/boot/kernel.OPT_KOKOPELLI_APM
Firefox 3.5.
Isn't there some way to get it using CVS or Subversion? I can't imagine
how a standard module would just be *missing*.
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Quoth Marvin Minsky: . . . anyone could learn Lisp in 1 day, except
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