On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600,
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com said:
C An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned.
Yup. However, the GNU folks do provide something for the rest of us;
help2man accepts a GNU program name, runs it with the --help and
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:52:31AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
of the open source
in message 20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.free...@edvax.de,
wrote Polytropon thusly...
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin
per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Yeah, I hate that stuff.
(referring to loathsome info pages.)
The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft of the open source
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
of the open source community, that way.
Be happy that there at least is an info
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 10:09:30PM -0700, James Phillips wrote:
Okay, after reading this, I used the WayBack Machine to review the
printing section of the April 17, 2006 version of the Handbook.
I was not able to find anything that is writing a print-driver per-se.
In the Advanced section
On Sun 09 Aug 2009 at 06:52:31 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. The
GNU project has this bizarre idea that everybody in the world should use
everything it produces and *nothing else*, no matter how painful it all
is to use -- and assumes
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:56:41PM -0700, James Phillips wrote:
I was also attracted to BSD because I knew from my brief stint at
university that the BSD man-pages were actually kept up to date. Not
like the GNU system where man pages say stupid things like: The full
documentation for dd is
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
of the open source community, that way.
Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many cases, there
is NO local documentation, neither in
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote:
Message: 11
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600
From: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was:
upgrade 7.2
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009
I'm obviously getting more and more stupid.
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
To conform with the growisofs manual, you could symlink it to /dev/dvd
using the setting
linkacd0cdrom
in /etc/devfs.conf.
Wrong line copies. Should be:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:25:38 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
servers back home craping out :)
Vacation? Weekend! :-)
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
archives?
This list is probably best suited to very specific
questions.
Some the stuff I mentioned has little to do with BSD.
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de
wrote:
From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)
(was: upgrade 7.2
To: James
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote:
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200
From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr
wrote:
Windows experience won't
Many people's only familiarity with computers in general will be from a
Windows centric perspective. Somehow there is a tendency to believe that
inserting a CD, booting, and then proceeding to click OK in a dialog box a
few dozen times makes them some kind of expert when they successfully
On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
[snip]
To achieve this, there are two things that should be made
Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
It's called PC-BSD.
HTH HAND
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
Matthew Seaman wrote:
Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
It's called PC-BSD.
HTH HAND
Matthew
Nice
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeownj.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote:
On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home
on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user
- Original Message -
From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade
7.2overwrites partitions)
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009
[snip]
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home
on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer
Bernt Hansson wrote:
Matthew Seaman skrev:
Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
It's called PC-BSD.
Have a look at Manolis Kiagias
Al Plant wrote:
Bernt Hansson wrote:
Matthew Seaman skrev:
Mark Stapper wrote:
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement
in the FreeBSD corner.
What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
FreeBSD.
It's called PC-BSD.
Have a look
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:59 +0200, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote:
PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified
package manager.
If you're talking about PBI, that's what the average user expects:
You open a web browser (d'oh), search for what you
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote:
Message: 16
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:41:12 -0500
From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was:
upgrade 7.2
overwrites partitions
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:48:10 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote:
I should however note that although this work takes out most of the
compiling steps (and I plan to expand the range of pre-built packages
soon), it is still not a common man's OS, as all the configuration
steps are
inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many
years
(over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number).
I have been struggling to use FreeBSD for a shorter amount of time (for a
fileserver). I was originally attracted to OpenBSD for security. However,
OpenBSD users are
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote:
So, this long story boils down to the following
question:
What is that best way to use the handbook and related
documentation (like man-pages)?
What?!
Ummm . . . read them. I'm not trying to be too big of a
dick, but
How do you expect to get comfortable w/out playing
around, other
than, I guess (a'la above) reading the documentation?
Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing
around on my workstation that would be a separate computer.
I want to build myself a sand-box so
James Phillips wrote:
Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing
around on my workstation that would be a separate computer.
I want to build myself a sand-box so I don't have to worry about breaking
stuff that is unrelated.
Another way of asking the question:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:41 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips anti_spam...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
I was also attracted to BSD because I knew from my brief stint at
university that the BSD man-pages were actually kept up to date.
As a developer, documentation is VERY important to me. That's why
I love
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:41:40 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips anti_spam...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before
playing around on my workstation that would be a separate
computer.
The default installation of FreeBSD covers most cases.
I want to build
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote:
Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the fact Windows
forces the users (and admins) to a completely different way of thinking
than FreeBSD.
That's true. It's even hard to communicate with 'Windows'
Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for
a lifetime. :-)
Amen.
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It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
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On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:25:38PM -0600, Modulok wrote:
[snip]
Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for
a lifetime. :-)
[/snip]
It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
servers back home craping out :)
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Really.
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