Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-11 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 18:30:52 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it.

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-11 Thread Karl Vogel
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za said: J I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about the extra J load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, and J being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail

Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
So, it would appear that Midphase hosting are still incapable of working out why their ticketing system is sending replies with forged From: address to posters to the freebsd-questions mailing list. (Their support queue is at mpcustomer.com). I'm assuming the list admins already have examples

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID:e436b556aafa1c4bd0f2c367a0097...@secure.mpcustomer.com

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: I'm assuming the list admins already have examples to work with, but here is a set of headers from the reply I got to my last list post, in case it's any help. for everyone how does not want this mails anymore but into your /etc/mail/access the

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To:

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 13:32:23, Jonathan McKeown wrote: I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at least the last several weeks now? Sure. Just tell

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47,

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe problems of scale and load

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] They posted in a previous thread about

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 14:12:48, Jonathan McKeown wrote: Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it Dat's der bunny. would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthias Fechner
Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people running other MTAs are left as exercises for interested students. If you don't have your own mail system,

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 10 06:25:02 2010 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:55 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the message

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 15:13:39, Matthias Fechner wrote: Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people running

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a

Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-10 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
On 10.06.2010 18:12, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that