Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-22 Thread Keith Seyffarth
snip xfce-4.6 is running here on a couple of machines, with none of those problems. Those actually sound more like xorg problems. I don't think it's XORG for a couple of reasons: * when I first updated xfce, it didn't update xorg, and it was all working fine under xfce4 4.4 * problems

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-22 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (# firefox). Once you get the hang of its keybindings, which are vi-like, it's fun and easy. It's also compatible with aterm, which will give you

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread Keith Seyffarth
At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread Fbsd1
Keith Seyffarth wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (#

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4)

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread Graham Bentley
Got X? You already got one ;-) http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)

2009-03-20 Thread RW
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. The XFCE upgrade went smoothly for me, apart from missing icons, although I don't use it all that much so I may have missed something. At

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-16 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Keith Seyffarth said the following on 2009-03-16 02:38: Sorry, should have had you do rmconfig-recursive first. There's a OK. I'll have to think about that. It is mostly working now, having added an xrandr line to the .xinitrc file to fix the resolution. What line was that? xrandr

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
That -k option to make is unnecessary and possibly bad. Stop using it for now. Well, it doesn't really sound like it is *good*, but I was just trying to get X to install again. Thanks for the warning, though. cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make clean OK, it cleans everything make

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
xorg-drivers requires the drivers it has been configured to depend on, which does not necessarily include xf86-video-via. Go to the xorg-drivers port and do a 'make config' to change which drivers it will depend on. This did work to get XORG to install. Now I'm trying to get XFCE installed

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Well, I finally got XORG to install again, and then installed XFCE 4.6. Still no menus, and huge screen resolution. However, Ctl-Alt-[Keypad Minus] will zoom in on part of the desktop area, making text at least readable on screen. Any other suggestions on getting XFCE to have its menu again? Or

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Keith Seyffarth wrote: Well, I finally got XORG to install again, and then installed XFCE 4.6. Still no menus, and huge screen resolution. However, Ctl-Alt-[Keypad Minus] will zoom in on part of the desktop area, making text at least readable on screen. Any other suggestions on getting XFCE

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
You could try hitting ALT+F2 and typing xfce4-settings-manager or xfce4-settings-editor to run these. I was able to set some things this way, but some settings don't take (such as screen resolution). also, changing the theme to Tango didn't fix the missing icons (yes, icons-tango-0.8.1_1 and

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make config-recursive (choose configuration for everything) Should there have been some kind of user interaction here? A series of questions? A screen with boxes to X for different options? What I got was: # make

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Sorry, should have had you do rmconfig-recursive first. There's a OK. I'll have to think about that. It is mostly working now, having added an xrandr line to the .xinitrc file to fix the resolution. snip Are you running FreeBSD 6.0? I don't know if xorg-7.4 will work or even build with

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin
I haven't been folowing this discussion but have you tried to delete the .config folder in your user's home and start xfce without it? that forces it to redo the config from scratch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Bernt Hansson
Keith Seyffarth said the following on 2009-03-16 02:38: Sorry, should have had you do rmconfig-recursive first. There's a OK. I'll have to think about that. It is mostly working now, having added an xrandr line to the .xinitrc file to fix the resolution. What line was that?

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-15 Thread Keith Seyffarth
I haven't been folowing this discussion but have you tried to delete the .config folder in your user's home and start xfce without it? that forces it to redo the config from scratch. I didn't actually try that, but at one point I did create a new user and that user has the same issues.

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Your problem is not xfce but xorg. It went through massive changes in 7.1 and it's now mandatory to have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You have to add Option AllowEmptyInput Off statement as last line in ServerLayout section. Doing console command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf will build you

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Fbsd1
Keith Seyffarth wrote: Your problem is not xfce but xorg. It went through massive changes in 7.1 and it's now mandatory to have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You have to add Option AllowEmptyInput Off statement as last line in ServerLayout section. Doing console command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Keith Seyffarth
As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. Does anyone have an option other than blowing

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Keith Seyffarth
As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. It looks like this was a step in the WRONG

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:43:53 -0600 (MDT), Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. What about using pkg_add for X and the other ports it depends on? Check if the binary packages are new

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 03:43:53PM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote: As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-14 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. It

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Keith Seyffarth wrote: On freebsd 6.0, I upgraded XFCE from 4.4 to 4.6 last night. When I started X this morning, and went to follow these instructions from the UPDATING file: Make sure to switch as well to the Tango theme. To do this just open the Settings Manager and select Appearance.

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
Manolis, Thanks for the quick reply. Did you follow the rest of the instructions for xfce 4.6 in UPDATING? There are a few ports to deinstall, preferably before upgrading. A little problem with that: after having the ports tree updated I could not simply make deinstall them, as the old port

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Dave Feustel
The install for 4.6.0 is too complicated (hence error-prone). I'm sticking with my current version of xfce, which I like a lot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe,

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
The install for 4.6.0 is too complicated (hence error-prone). I'm sticking with my current version of xfce, which I like a lot. That may well have been a better choice at this point... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
snip longer present. I could use stg like pkg_delete, but in the end, I preferred using pkg_rmleaves and remove the entire xfce4.4 related ports I wasn't able to find pkg_rmleaves, so I tried pkg_delete on all the related packages I could find. (including the libs, mousepad, Thunar and a

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Keith Seyffarth wrote: snip longer present. I could use stg like pkg_delete, but in the end, I preferred using pkg_rmleaves and remove the entire xfce4.4 related ports I wasn't able to find pkg_rmleaves, so I tried pkg_delete on all the related packages I could find. Well,

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
snip Please make sure these ports are installed: x11-themes/gtk-xfce-engine installed as: gtk-xfce-engine-2.6.0 An XFCE engine for GTK 2.0 x11-themes/icons-tango-extras installed as: icons-tango-extras-0.1.0_1 A extra set of icons from the Tango project snip I am afraid I can do both

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Keith Seyffarth wrote: New user gets a completely different interface. XFCE and components don't seem to launch, nor do they seem to be available. Not only is there no menu, there's no panel from which to launch the menu, and the panel won't start from the command line. Well, this

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
snip Well, this leads me to believe you don't have an .xinitrc file in the new user's home directory Create an ~/.xinitrc with exec startxfce4 OK, did that. as the only content and try again. The panel is there (and displayed icons on the desktop, weird). However, the menu doesn't

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
I went through pkg_rmleaves and deleted xfce and then everything it exposed, then re-installed using portinstall -R This installed 32 packages when I had only deleted 31, so something got installed that wasn't previously. Unfortunately, this still didn't fix the problems. The XFCE menu still

Re: issues in XFCE 4.6

2009-03-13 Thread Fbsd1
Keith Seyffarth wrote: I went through pkg_rmleaves and deleted xfce and then everything it exposed, then re-installed using portinstall -R This installed 32 packages when I had only deleted 31, so something got installed that wasn't previously. Unfortunately, this still didn't fix the