Re: [Freedos-user] shorter subject line.

2013-06-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:39 PM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not trying to install linux in windows/dos; puppy linux does that
 exquisiitley.

EDIT: I've not used this particular piece of it, but the DOS SHSUCD
package has SHSUDVHD which emulates a DVD-ROM using multiple image
files.

 Imagine you have an old w98 install cd. You could install from the disk, but
 it is more efficient to *copy* the files from the install cd to a folder in
 dos, then, in the frolder, execute 'setup.exe'. This will install the '98
 much quicker.
   In similar fashion, I wanted to reinstall w7 on a netbook, and only had
 the external dvd drive.

But this didn't work because of your PATA incompatibility??

 I installed xp on a small c: partition,
 made a d: partition with ntfs; using flash drive, *copied* the install files
 onto the xp on c:, and again executed the 'setup.exe';
 choosing the appropriate menu options from the w7 installer, the 7 installed
 flawlessly onto the d: partition.

Okay, so you successfully installed Win7 on a netbook. So everything's
fine or you're still trying to accomplish something? Or just curious
for a better way?

   The last mint which fit on a cd was 12;

Dunno, I know that a lot of projects use DVD images, but surely there
are still CD versions out there. But maybe those distros don't work
(well) for you. Can you not run a network (PXE??) install?

 installed that and copied the
 install files from 13 into a folder in 12, and here I am stumped,
 since I can't see how to cause the install to begin executing from the linux
 installer with it's isolinux,etc..  Don't even know if it.s possible;

At risk of being really obvious, try asking the Mint people (IRC,
forums, etc.) for help. Presumably they know better than we do.   ;-)
   Maybe GRUB 2 (or similar tool) has support for directly accessing
PATA, dunno.

 by the way I tried to boot the iso of 13 using grub4dos, and the g4d couln't
 even see the iso.

Couldn't read or couldn't mount? Well, I can't remember (and am not
even close to knowledgeable nor experienced with that tool, very very
arcane and confusing), but it probably has something to do with the
BIOS not recognizing (or not using) certain drives. At some point the
bootstrapping is overwritten in RAM by the intended guest OS and thus
stops using any BIOS functions, as is Linux's preference to avoid it.
I don't remember the details exactly, but I think?? it's something
vaguely like that. I vaguely remember thinking oh, I can just use
GRUB4DOS to boot xyz and do abc when it wasn't possible.

IIRC, there used to be some kernel magic parameter that would let you
boot an .ISO installed on your ext2 partition from within Linux. I
tried it once on something, it worked okay, but I forget the details.
(Sorry if that's not very helpful, just saying.) There's probably a
way to do what you want here, but I don't know what it is. For sure,
I've seen Windows machines update their BIOS from within Windows, so
surely installing an OS from within another OS is far from impossible
(assuming enough permissions). But you may have to find someone
(preferably from Mint) who is more experienced (or start using Gentoo
or read Linux From Scratch or similar, heh, probably not ideal).

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[Freedos-user] shorter subject line.

2013-06-26 Thread kurt godel
Forgive the boobing of the subject line; and to make myself clearer:
  I am not trying to install linux in windows/dos; puppy linux does that
exquisiitley.
Imagine you have an old w98 install cd. You could install from the disk,
but it is more efficient to *copy* the files from the install cd to a
folder in dos, then, in the frolder, execute 'setup.exe'. This will install
the '98 much quicker.
  In similar fashion, I wanted to reinstall w7 on a netbook, and only had
the external dvd drive. I installed xp on a small c: partition,
made a d: partition with ntfs; using flash drive, *copied* the install
files onto the xp on c:, and again executed the 'setup.exe';
choosing the appropriate menu options from the w7 installer, the 7
installed flawlessly onto the d: partition.

  The last mint which fit on a cd was 12; installed that and copied the
install files from 13 into a folder in 12, and here I am stumped,
since I can't see how to cause the install to begin executing from the
linux installer with it's isolinux,etc..  Don't even know if it.s possible;

by the way I tried to boot the iso of 13 using grub4dos, and the g4d
couln't even see the iso.
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