Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread Pete Forsyth
Jim, Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I didn't mean to take issue with the original post (which raises a worthy point), merely to introduce another dimension that I learned about only recently, which came as a surprise. It's possible that the NY Times does a good job of maintaining a clear

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread J Hayes
some obits are not behind paywall. a reference to do list would make good work. maybe we could get Mietchen or Magnus to make an automated list article / category "list of people with obituaries" cheers On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Neotarf wrote: > Links to lists in

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread Robert Fernandez
"there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these, even when they provide strong support for notability." In fact, there's a lot of discouragement when you try to incorporate people from notable obits into the Deaths in 20xx articles: redlinks removed, stubs targeted for deletion.

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread Pete Forsyth
At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary." Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and online) look much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, "death notice"=paid ad) is

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread J Hayes
pete, the article linked is listing NYTimes, WashPost, and LATimes. not the paid notices there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these, even when they provide strong support for notability. cheers On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: >