Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-02 Thread Gillian White
It has been concerning me for a while reading this discussion that the accusations rest heavily on an expectation that everyone can and should master English (and even American English) as well as write the language in an acceptable tone. This is a huge ask. Getting the tone right demands a very

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Maggie
I apologize if you are offended and find this discouraging, but I am not apologizing for what I've said. And putting a happy face at the end of your comment does not mean you haven't invalidated my opinions. I voiced opinions that I know several people on this list, let alone many women on

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Ralph Teckentrup
[mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Maggie Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 19:38 An: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5 I apologize if you are offended and find this discouraging, but I am not apologizing for what I've said

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Theo10011
Hi I am mostly active on other ML and signed on to Gender gap list solely to respond to Maggie and Sarah. Let me be clear, Rupert thruner and Pete are both right, you were not nice at all in your previous response and border-line uncivil, Maggie. And you are not blunt, maybe slightly misinformed.

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 1/10/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Sarah, I am not sure what you've been trying to say lately[2].  Rest assured that it made perfect sense to others. ;) A.___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Theo10011
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On *Sat, 1/10/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com* wrote: Sarah, I am not sure what you've been trying to say lately[2]. Rest assured that it made perfect sense to others. ;) Wonderful, now I can finally sleep in

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 14:25, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On *Sat, 1/10/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com* wrote: Sarah, I am not sure what you've been trying to say lately[2]. Rest assured that it made

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Theo10011 wrote: Wonderful, now I can finally sleep in peace knowing that it made sense to you. Theo..please calm down. Plenty of us read and understand Sarah's posts, plenty of us read and understand your posts. This is not us vs. them. If you're feeling worked up

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Nathan
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Maggie rockerre...@gmail.com wrote: snip Second, she referred to women as girls. Which, as far as I know with any woman, is incredibly insulting and a way of one-upping someone. I'll assume you are a man because your name is Rupert. I'm sure you know if another

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 21:27, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: ... (On the other hand, people on this list have a habit of using males to refer to men and women to refer to women. Flip side of the same coin, perhaps?). Interesting point, Nathan, that I hadn't noticed. But I have noticed the