Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-14 Thread J Hayes
sorry i'm not interested in interacting with arbcom or susa i can only report that people went down those paths and are dissatisfied with the response it is impacting any further edits from them it is impacting interactions with a certain library and their employees. it is important for the

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-14 Thread J Hayes
nope - this was an incident at wikiconUSA 2015 apparently nothing done which has impacted the credibility of arbcom and susa (i was not witness, but i find the complainants credible) On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Pine W wrote: > I'm unfamiliar with this situation, but

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-13 Thread Pine W
I'm unfamiliar with this situation, but if there's a functionary whose off-wiki behavior calls into question of the appropriateness of his/her continuing to have access to PII, please do forward that information to SuSa, the Ombudsman Committee, and/or (as applicable) the local arbitration

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-13 Thread J Hayes
yes, that functionary and his behavior on meta has chilled the participation of some librarian editors they are highly skeptical of wiki harrassment efforts as long as he is in a position to see personal identifying information. they do not trust check user to be done responsibly as well this is

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-13 Thread Neotarf
Speaking of dox and in-person events, a few months ago one of the WP:BADSITES known for dox had a thread about attending a WMF harassment workshop. So anyone who is not comfortable with a paper trail, and would prefer face-to-face conversations with allies, could actually find themselves face to

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-12 Thread Neotarf
I had meant to revisit this discussion after my thinking on the subject had come together a little better, unfortunately that isn't happening, so I will just express my concerns. Perhaps this is only anecdotal, but it has been my observation that a good many admins are students and either stop

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-02-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
*Re "** young men from 11-19", which if you think about it, is pretty much the demographic of Wikimedia's admins and functionaries."* That's an old joke, but nowadays a joke that looks a tad out of touch. Yes a significant proportion of people were that age when they became admins in 2004-2008.

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-02-20 Thread Pine W
Hi Neotarf, Sounds like an interesting program. There are similar programs in the US to encourage males in their younger years (under 18) to treat other people respectfully and to try to inspire them with visions of hopeful futures (e.g. high-quality jobs instead of membership in gangs). I'm not