Re: [Gendergap] Why women and wikis do mix...

2011-03-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: [Gendergap] Why women and wikis do mix... To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tuesday, 8 March, 2011, 19:09 On Signpost:

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

2011-03-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I've added sexual innuendo to the en:WP civility policy, under other uncivil behaviours: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACivilityaction=historysubmitdiff=419506099oldid=416379114 Andreas --- On Fri, 18/3/11, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sarah

Re: [Gendergap] Visible female faces for Wikim/pedia

2011-03-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sun, 20/3/11, carolmoor...@verizon.net carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Come up with male and female wikipe-tans and put those up. Thinking out loud here: Having images that contain both a female and a male figure might actually be useful for young men, on a subliminal level. Having

Re: [Gendergap] Visible female faces for Wikim/pedia

2011-03-21 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 21/3/11, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Why couldn't the personification of Wikipedia a pair of happy, healthy, young people, a male and a female? Always seen together, side by side? This is a lovely idea. Yes. I like the always seen together aspect. I wouldn't

Re: [Gendergap] Visible female faces for Wikim/pedia

2011-03-28 Thread Andreas Kolbe
As someone pointed out in the discussion at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jumping_Wikipe-tan.svg#File:Jumping_Wikipe-tan.svg (which is heading for a keep) Stephen's - in my view - quite sensible deletion of

Re: [Gendergap] Advice for BLP situation (possibly off-topic)

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Deanna, There is some basic advice for people wishing to edit (or complain about) their ownbiographies here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notable_person_survival_kit Otherwise, drop me or some of the established women editors on this list a private note identifying the article,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 16/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Monday, 16 May,

[Gendergap] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
There is a long thread on the Commons and Gendergap lists about today's featured image on Commons: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/ http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2011-May/ It's an original piece of art by a Wikimedian, in the style of erotic manga:

Re: [Gendergap] [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com Subject: [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common...@lists.wikimedia.org, Increasing female

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 16/5/11, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpgaction=historysubmitdiff=54489618oldid=54483841 Coming up with stuff old women like would actually be a good idea, but I

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 18 May,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote:From: Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 18 May,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday,

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

2011-05-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Wed, 18/5/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net I am sure the editor who said I like her big tits had that political message in mind. Andreas OK, Einstein, what is the psychological significance of a bare-breasted Liberty, as

Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP Migrantas on women´s empowermente

2011-05-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Fri, 20/5/11, patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP Migrantas on women´s empowermente To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects

Re: [Gendergap] Please , a question on deleted article SP Migrantas on women´s empowermente

2011-05-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Just for reference, the relevant guidelines are: Unambiguous use of a name or URL of a company, group or product as a username is generally not permitted, and users who adopt such a username may be blocked if their editing behavior appears to be promotional. However, users who adopt such

Re: [Gendergap] As I was passing through...

2011-06-22 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Charlotte, I managed to find the dispute and had a look at it. The editor concerned definitely was being a bit of a prat in my view, and should have discussed the matter with you before going on a reverting spree.  I would not have inserted the sic in that one quote, but otherwise you were

Re: [Gendergap] As I was passing through...

2011-06-22 Thread Andreas Kolbe
P.S. I echo Sue's sentiments. :)  Welcome, and thanks for your articulate letter. Andreas --- On Thu, 23/6/11, Charlotte J ravin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Charlotte J ravin...@gmail.com Subject: [Gendergap] As I was passing through... To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, 23 June,

Re: [Gendergap] New Survey: 9% female editors

2011-07-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Fred, --- On Sat, 2/7/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I have said this before, but we seem to lack African-American editors, and it's my  impression we don't cover African-American culture well. I wonder if we could get an article  out on theroot.com  There are a few really

Re: [Gendergap] More on fem-edits

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Thanks for your post, Karen.  For reference, I just checked the data on singleness / parenthood in the most recent survey. http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WP_2011_Editor%27s_Survey_-_Topline.pdfpage=3 55% of Wikipedians are single, 17% have a partner, 28% are married.

[Gendergap] AfD - We love colors

2011-08-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
There is a deletion discussion on an American online fashion store selling dance wear, leggings, coloured tights etc. here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/We_Love_Colors Notability is contested, but in my view on the right side of the threshold:   Book coverage

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 12/9/11, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: First, the issue of consent on Commons has been passionately debates for years, and has a long and tortured history. Before proposing anything, please make yourself familiar with the previous discussions and their outcomes. Most

Re: [Gendergap] Black skins

2011-09-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Arnaud, I've just remembered a documentary related to your post that is very much worth watching. Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXG38QxXY-s Andreas --- On Mon, 19/9/11, Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.net wrote: From: Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.net Subject: [Gendergap]

Re: [Gendergap] Black skins

2011-09-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
with the impression that Wikipedia is not written for them. A. --- On Mon, 19/9/11, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Black skins To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date

Re: [Gendergap] Black skins

2011-09-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
skins To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, 21 September, 2011, 0:15 On 20/09/2011 01:10, Andreas Kolbe wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXG38QxXY-s Not only worth watching but compulsory watching, I think. Thanks Andreas

Re: [Gendergap] 13 year old joins WP Pornography?

2011-09-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Whether or not the editor is indeed thirteen years old is probably relatively unimportant. What matters is that voices in the RfC generally (about 3:1) oppose the idea of a minimum age of 18 for contributors to the WikiProject.

Re: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog

2011-09-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post by Sue, and a courageous one, too. Andreas --- On Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia

Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template

2011-09-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
What do you think about creating a {{gendergap}} or {{GNPOV}} (gender-neutral point of view) template in en:WP? This could have a format similar to  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NPOV and could use an image like  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igualtat_de_sexes.svg The text could

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

2011-10-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 1/10/11, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Sarah, I am not sure what you've been trying to say lately[2].  Rest assured that it made perfect sense to others. ;) A.___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template

2011-10-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Thanks all for the feedback. I've started a discussion on-wiki, at  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Gender_neutrality_template Andreas --- On Sat, 1/10/11, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: Daniel and Elizabeth Case

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka

2011-10-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wouldn't the obvious thing in the Spanish Wikipedia be to differentiate between usuario and usuaria? As in Página del usuario / Página de la usuaria? Andreas --- On Wed, 5/10/11, patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: patricia morales mariadelcarmenpatri...@yahoo.com

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka

2011-10-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Cool.  Andreas --- On Thu, 6/10/11, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Indeed, that's the current implementation, which is now deployed. Here's an example female user's page on Spanish Wikipedia: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuaria:Angela_tocua And here's an example female user's page on

[Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Brandon, On a matter that originally arose in Meta and on the Foundation list,  but may be of interest to this list as well, do you know the answer to the question posed here ... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290.html ... or do you know someone who does?

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
-masturbating On 10/12/11 7:48 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Brandon, On a matter that originally arose in Meta and on the Foundation list, but may be of interest to this list as well, do you know the answer to the question posed here ... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
. If a gallery page for cucumber existed, all searches for cucumber would go immediately to that gallery page rather than pulling up random images. Ryan Kaldari On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Thanks for the link, Brandon.  I had raised this in the image filter discussions

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
go immediately to that gallery page rather than pulling up random images. Ryan Kaldari On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Thanks for the link, Brandon.  I had raised this in the image filter discussions on Foundation-l yesterday (as well as on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
John, From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com (Searching for levee in Commons brings up an image of a naked Suicide Girl called Levee in third place.) Its a thumbnail for !@#$ sake, and anyone who finds that image offensive should turn off their internet connection. It's a perfectly nice

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
and proactively curate the content we have so that there is less potential for astonishment in our search results. Ryan Kaldari On 10/13/11 5:37 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: John, From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com (Searching for levee in Commons brings up an image of a naked Suicide Girl called Levee

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Brandon, Would it be a lot of work to give primary weight in the Commons search listing order to files included in  1. Categories (top level only) and  2. Galleries  whose name matches the search term (or is the plural thereof)? So the top files listed for cucumber, say, would be all the

[Gendergap] Niqab

2012-03-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This edit to the article on the niqab worn by Muslim women http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niq%C4%81bdiff=482813756oldid=481659451 was pointed out on the Wikipediocracy forum the other day ( http://www.wikipediocracy.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8t=122; I'm a mod there). The edit has

[Gendergap] BuzzFeed articles

2012-04-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Two recent Buzzfeed articles: 1. *Wikipedia's Gender Gap, As Measured By Famous Birthdays*, by Anna North http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/wikipedias-gender-gap-as-measured-by-famous-birt A gender gap continues to plague Wikipedia, and one of its main effects is on the kinds of people the

Re: [Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
If you don't particularly object to that image http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Naked_Gardening_Dayoldid=485677881 then I would suggest you have very poor taste and very little sense of what an encyclopedia, even an online encyclopedia, should look like. Andreas On Thu, Apr 5,

Re: [Gendergap] BuzzFeed articles

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Sequel to Jack Stuef's piece: *It's Almost Impossible To Get Kiddie Porn Off Wikipedia* *Wikipedia's self-policing isn't working.* http://www.buzzfeed.com/jackstuef/its-almost-impossible-to-get-kiddie-porn-off-wiki ___ Gendergap mailing list

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles. Andreas On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: NO need to censor it. Just do a second one with bushier eyebrows and a goatee and put that up instead :-) On

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
A Google image search for gay cumshot indicates there are 37.8 million results. Cumshot -gay has 44 million. If these numbers are correct, then gay and non-gay cumshots are almost equally common online, and it's a toss-up (pun intended) as to which we should use. There are really two separate

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: ** Fun fact: Female ejaculation is the most viewed Wikipedia article related in any way to feminism (at least since WikiProject Feminism started keeping stats). It's 3 times as popular as the next article on the list,

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: No one here has commented on the fact that the German Wikipedia article uses a special, local version of one of Seedfeeder's images. The German

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wonderful. Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad Andreas On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: ** Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few other folks about seeking funding to have a Wiki Loves Women photography event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this

[Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
From Larry Sanger's blog: ---o0o--- I want to start a conversation. [...Larry says, in his blog] I. Problem? What problem? So, you didn’t know that Wikipedia has a porn problem? Let me say what I do not mean by “Wikipedia’s porn problem.” I do not mean simply that Wikipedia has a lot of porn.

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.comwrote: What is the relationship with gender-gap ? Are female children more unlikely to contribute to Wikimedia projects if they saw some porn on

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should gender gappers really pay attention?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: So yes, systematic bias can be overcome by encouraging the growth of female contributors. The failure to attract women contributors to editing Wikipedia across various languages has little to do with that. I am

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Here are results of a multimedia search for human female in Wikipedia (NSFW): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Searchlimit=250offset=100redirs=0profile=imagessearch=human+female Did you look at the examples Larry mentioned in his post? There are many more: e.g.

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.comwrote: The Flickr account has been closed down (usually for breach of Flickr's terms of service). Note that there are no 18 USC 2257 records demonstrating that the persons depicted were 18 or over. According to my

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not convinced that sexual images is a gender gap issue. But my non-expert opinion is that there is, or ought to be, a degree of feminist interest in the problems of model releases and age verification. I've always thought it

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Now, things got complicated when DOJ added an entirely new class of producers you speak of secondary producers, anyone who publishes, reproduces, or reissues explicit material. This is where things get complicated. What

[Gendergap] Gossamer threads archive

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
To the list administrators: Would it be possible to have this list archived on gossamer-threads, like the Foundation list? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/ It's a much more convenient format to refer back to than the monthly archive page. Andreas

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Outside prosecutors can not prosecute, or charge any editor based on their username, whether its User:someguy542 or User:Ladiesman232, there is no real world link without the IP records. Firstly, that's not the sort of

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On the Commons side of things, I think there has been an over-aggressive campaign to extract license compliant images from Flickr and other non-WMF repositories that include subjects who were very unlikely to know that their

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Usually it's because they are busy. The smallest group - 2% said because of sexualized environments on wiki spaces. Which has led me to believe in the red herring theory about porn and Wikipedia. I think it's

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Please consider the likelihood that there may be a correlation between the let-it-all-hang-out attitude towards porn, and the problem you

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
the screenshots are taken from is here: http://cultureandcommunication.org/f09/tdm/elisaverna/wait-did-4chan-just-enlighten-me-i-feel-dirty/ Andreas On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas - you seem to have the belief that the pervasive exposure to pornography is having an adverse effect on community dynamics, and in particular is having a negative impact on the recruitment of women editors. Perhaps you

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Where is the pornography?

2012-05-31 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Kim Osman kim.os...@qut.edu.au wrote: Hi, I edit Wikipedia a lot. I probably spend more time than I should editing Wikipedia. Can I ask where there is a prevalence of pornography on Wikipedia? I honestly can't think of a single time I have come across

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

2012-06-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
We are not talking about filtering standard sex education images as you might find in a school book. We are talking about images or videos of women drinking their urine, masturbating with a toothbrush, or having sex with a dog. Andreas On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Michelle Gallaway

Re: [Gendergap] positive action Re: Nastiness

2012-06-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
This case presents a good argument for flagged revisions. Given that the people who made these edits weren't logged in, none of their additions and changes would have been visible to the public. Andreas On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:04 AM, koltzenb...@w4w.net wrote: Hi Gillian, thank you for

Re: [Gendergap] positive action Re: Nastiness

2012-06-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure. As soon as the incident was noted, the article was semi-protected, which solved the problem. Perhaps you are suggesting flagged revisions for *all* biographies of living persons (BLPs), by default?

[Gendergap] Holly Graf

2012-06-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holly_Grafoldid=476031995 This article, on a female Navy officer – apparently the first woman to command a cruiser in the history of the Navy – seems to exemplify some of the failings of what I call WP:ADAM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ADAM

Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band

2012-08-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Also coverage of varying quality in ... The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9439046/Chairman-of-Wikipedia-charity-banned-after-pornography-row.html Civil Society (media outlet focused on charities)

Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band

2012-08-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Telegraph has now reported Fæ's resignation as Chair of Wikimedia UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9447161/Wikipedia-charity-chairman-resigns-after-pornography-row.html ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Violentacrez and civility

2012-10-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
What I was most struck by was the hypocrisy: in Reddit's vision, freedom of speech includes anonymously posting invasive images of teenagers, but excludes posting the name of a 49-year-old programmer who anonymously posts invasive images of teenagers. No privacy rights for teenage girls, complete

[Gendergap] Wall Street Journal: an overabundance of testosterone

2012-10-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal last week reporting on a longstanding war in Wikipedia: Editors Won't Let It Be When It Comes to 'the' or 'The' http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390444657804578048534112811590.html ---o0o--- The Beatles once sang, Have you heard the

Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know that they contribute to the gender imbalance - although in fairness the women who make it as far as adminship and discussions on Jimbo's page tend to be unusually thick-skinned (I mean it as a compliment!). I

Re: [Gendergap] Do the April Fool's Day jokes on English Wikipedia's front page deter women editors?

2013-01-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: It took forever to get the actual article [[Circle jerk]] into Wikipedia - a female did it. Now, now, Carol. The record shows that *I* created the circle jerk article, and I am not a female.

[Gendergap] Wiki New Zealand

2013-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
A lady down under has started her own Wikipedia about New Zealand. http://www.hawkesbay.co.nz/general-stories-page:/52063-a-new-wikipedia-about-new-zealand-origionates-in-hawkes-bay.html ---o0o--- Wiki web to satisfy Kiwi curiosity If knowledge is power then Lillian Grace's new website -

[Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered in YouTube and on Wikipedia. If not, see http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/

Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I think most people here will remember the appalling harassment Anita Sarkeesian suffered

Re: [Gendergap] Anita Sarkeesian, again

2013-02-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: Diff of the quoted edit, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anita_Sarkeesiandiff=prevoldid=523584174 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: I think most

[Gendergap] William Shatner calls Reddit out for racism, sexism

2013-02-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://www.dailydot.com/society/william-shatner-reddit-moderation-racism-sexism/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

[Gendergap] How Twitter turned a hashtag prank into a feminist victory

2013-02-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
http://www.dailydot.com/society/ineedmasculismbecause-4chan-mens-rights-mra/ (I hope these may be of tangential interest, even though they are not directly related to Wikipedia.) A. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Joseph Reagle on Wikipedia's category taxonomy

2013-04-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: This system keeps the categories more straightforward, and pretty well avoids the sort of subtle bias Wikipedia has been caught with here. Defining the precise intersection of interest is up to the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: But I think it's important to mention it in the context of this thread. It does seem to me that the sexism is getting worse, more blatant. It is, and the reason is that it is humoured and swept under the carpet, rather than

Re: [Gendergap] Sue's blog about Categorygate

2013-05-01 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Commentary in The Daily Dot. http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-sexism-problem-sue-gardner/ ---o0o--- Wikipedia found itself squirming uncomfortably last week after charges of systemic sexism drew heat from media outlets across the world and sparked widespread outrage on social media.

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good question. Why is it humoured? It doesn't look like you're going

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Mary Mark Ockerbloom celebration.wo...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the question of what can you do, I had the experience last week of starting a new job. I had to read through the guidelines for the organization, which included a section on Equal Opportunity

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
in the press these last couple of weeks. Talk to journalists instead. You may find them more sympathetic, and such an effort has a better chance of bringing about change. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Mary Mark

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
no action, and it's really tiring and depressing to watch and puts the burden on those of us who have limited time and are already burnt out). -Sarah On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Nepenthe topazbutter...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, I'd invite you to run a Google image search for Bagby Hot Springs, with safe search turned off. The first one hundred images include about as many images of female nudity as the nine-image Commons category. That is the difference between Commons demographics, and general demographics.

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Terms of Use prohibit harassment, which is the same word that's used to characterize the behaviors the friendly space policy prohibits. So at least in that respect the two are already somewhat analogous.

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation, but remain at liberty to use a pseudonymous user name. Identification might then be a prerequisite for certain community roles (as indeed it is today).

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, I don't know which Commons you participate in. The one I know has tons of nude pictures of women uploaded by anonymous throwaway accounts

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly. Andreas On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: The resolution wording is: ---o0o--- We feel that it

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have some comments inline. ---o0o--- This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 3 March 2013 by the administrator or reviewer Mattbuck, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly. Andreas ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: I will be of course posting a link to this list on the DR given the idiocy and trolling of a Commons admin going on here. Cheers, Russavia The message you posted at the DR, ---o0o--- *Comment* This nomination

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Here is an example of a recent deletion request that was closed as Keep. (While the image is not safe for work, the following link to the deletion discussion is. The deletion discussion does not show the image, only a link to it.)

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