On 7 September 2013 10:49, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I keep hearing those excuses for performance problems, Jeremy. It
takes longer to serve up the original page here in North America on a
fast
On 06.09.2013, at 01:43, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
My opinion is that it makes sense to continue to host the article at
[[Bradley Manning]], and to avoid trying to preempt or influence
coverage in favor of using Chelsea Manning's preferred identity.
So you're influencing coverage in
On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Helga Hansen m...@helgahansen.de wrote:
Since when is Wikipedia about beliefs?
The question of what policy to follow regarding article names, in general, has
no externally valid single right answer. Cat? Felis Silvestrus Catus?
Kitties!? Neko?
The default
On Sep 5, 2013 6:55 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Secondly, redirects are expensive - not to those in the Western world
with fast computers and high speed internet, but to those who are on
dial-up or have comparatively high lag times because of distance (lots of
people at Wikimania had
Odd thing about the current Google search results for Bradley Manning.
It gives the title Bradley Manning with a link to the Chelsea
Manning page, which when followed is a redirect to Bradley Manning. SS
attached.
attachment: bradley manning google search result
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually you would be surprised at the nature of some of the renaming
debates on Wikipedia in the area of artists like the one you mention,
but also artists from the 17th-century. One could probably write a
funny book about
Let me chime in with some background information that might help explain.
Article title disputes are some of the longest and most difficult disputes to
resolve on Wikipedia because many people, places, and things are well known by
different names. So it is almost impossible to make everyone
It's an interesting discussion on that move request page. I noticed
the Wikibump for the Bradley Manning page peaked at 173,000 views on
22 August and went down to less that 3,000 per day a week later. I
think the current situation (today I see an article named Bradley
Manning, and an article
Looks like the Chelsea Manning article has been changed back to Bradley
Manning:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning/August_2013_move_request
There is still a discussion ongoing about which name to lead the article
text with, however:
One thing I find interesting about the discussions on this is that people
seem to be, sometimes, applying different standards from how we normally
handle ourselves. So on WP normally, there is some deference paid to
expertise (as distinct from credentials). Normally, editors will often
defer to
In the German Wikipedia a huge discussion has erupted over the question how to
change the Wikipedia page for Chelsea Manning and it's another textbook example
over how to drive women of Wikipedia. You can see the gory details here (in
German of course):
There have been similar problems at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning
Obviously there have been a number of comments that are obviously
transphobic. However, there also have been repeated false charges of
transphobia against those who cite good policy reasons for not changing
the
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