Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-22 Thread Neotarf
A transcript of the speech is now available: https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech/ The other links again: https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech-qa/

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-22 Thread Amanda Menking
Thank you for doing this work, Neotarf! ~Amanda/Mssemantics On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Neotarf > wrote: A transcript of the speech is now available: https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech/ The

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-22 Thread Neotarf
My pleasure. The first time I did one of these, it was with hearing-impaired in mind. These are very time-consuming, but every time I do one, I am reminded again of how lucky I am to be able to hear. There does not seem to be one standard location for posting these. I see Jimmy's 2014

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-20 Thread Carol Moore dc
What we really need is trained mediators who have admin powers to sanction those who refuse to engage in mediation or who refuse to change their wicked ways. And since there job is enhancing civility on Wikipedia, which is one of the goals of the foundation, maybe foundation could figure out

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread Neotarf
"...now pitching the idea that ARL libraries take over editing chunks of Wikipedia..." It does sound like a remake of Bambi Meets Godzilla. Wonder how that would go over in Canada--looks like they have a number of ARL libraries http://www.arl.org/membership#.ViU1omtAeKI Sounds like the kind of

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread Kevin Gorman
I've been out of touch with the world for most of the last week, but I'm extremely disappointed to see the only active arbitrator to comment on that discussion so far just asked for a tl;dr when given a two hour long video of free advice from a leading expert in online harassment issues. Almost

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread Neotarf
I have posted a transcript of the Q portion: https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech-qa/ and added links to the documents referenced. @Fae thanks for the link, I didn't know you could link to a specific point in a video @J Hayes "cultural

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread
FYI, a 45 minutes commitment. Not saying much more, I'm tired of being a punch bag for Arbs and ex-Arbs. Fae On 19 Oct 2015 19:47, "Kevin Gorman" wrote: > I've been out of touch with the world for most of the last week, but > I'm extremely disappointed to see the only active

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
right, here's the tweet from an audience member at a ARL conference https://twitter.com/LibSkrat/status/651786423138430976 it is quoted on one of fuzheado's slides. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Neotarf wrote: > I have posted a transcript of the Q portion: >

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
yes, notice crickets on talk page you could be dismissive of the questions as the usual "gender gap cabal", but when andrew lih says that is the perception of the culture among library professionals, and it needs to change, you would think good faith arbs would sit up and take notice. but as DGG

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
yes, lambs to the slaughter echoing andrew lih, i have been to a few wiki loves libraries and all the librarians are aware of the toxic culture but the militant ones are biding their time for the takeover. i was questioning DGG about some librarian ethics but he dismissed them. also about the

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread Rob
Card-carrying librarian here. Can someone let me in on our takeover plans? Email me. Thanks. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, J Hayes wrote: > yes, lambs to the slaughter > echoing andrew lih, > i have been to a few wiki loves libraries > and all the librarians are

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread Rob
Thanks for creating this transcript. I hope that it will help make this conversation more accessible to those who need to hear it. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Neotarf wrote: > I have posted a transcript of the Q portion: >

[Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-13 Thread
Links: 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-Y-FuzAH4=85m30s 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Comments_on_ArbCom_and_gender Folks may be interested in watching the Q session at the recent WikiConference USA where gender and harassment was discussed for about

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-13 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, that was an interesting Q - I was familiar with most of the material discussed in the talk (and a lot of it has been discussed here before), but I was surprised by the emotional response afterwards and the number of comments/questions. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Fæ

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-13 Thread J Hayes
yes, nice for arbcom to see how they are perceived and Andrew Lih mentioned the "cultural buzzsaw" tweet for importance of fixing culture as one of the things wikipedia must do. this was for an audience of the US powers that be; it will be interesting to see the impact on future conduct. On