Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-10-07 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:26:15PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the hard drive in the event the OS itself won't boot.  The other day I had to dig around and find a bootable USB stick and also found a DVD.  Ended up

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:45:46AM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > And I don't know that formatting ext4 or some other FS to 16K > really helps the write amplification issue but it makes sense to > me to match the file system blocks to the underlying flash > block size. The problem is finding out

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-17 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 2:41 AM Wols Lists > wrote: > > > > On 17/04/2023 02:14, Dale wrote: > > > My current install is over a decade old.  My /boot partition is about > > > 375MBs.  I should have made it larger but at the time, I booted

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 2:41 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 17/04/2023 02:14, Dale wrote: > > My current install is over a decade old. My /boot partition is about > > 375MBs. I should have made it larger but at the time, I booted CD/DVD > > media when needed. I didn't have USB sticks at the time.

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2023 02:14, Dale wrote: My current install is over a decade old.  My /boot partition is about 375MBs.  I should have made it larger but at the time, I booted CD/DVD media when needed.  I didn't have USB sticks at the time.  This time, I plan to make some changes.  If I put Knoppix

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:26:15PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the hard drive in the event the OS itself won't boot.  The other day I had to dig around and find a bootable USB stick and also found a DVD.  Ended up

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 3:18 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 01:22:32PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > Frank, > >Thank you for the in-depth explanation. > > > >I need to do some study before commenting further other than to say > > so far I'm finding different

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:26:15PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the hard drive in the > > > event the OS itself won't boot.  The other day I had to dig around and > > > find a bootable USB stick and also found a DVD.  Ended up with the DVD > > > working

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:54 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > <<< SNIP >>> > > > I guess I don't understand why you would put Knoppix in the boot > > > partition vs somewhere else. Is this for some sort of recovery > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 01:22:32PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Frank, >Thank you for the in-depth explanation. > >I need to do some study before commenting further other than to say > so far I'm finding different comments depending on whether it's > an SSD or an M.2 drive. Uhm, I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
Frank, Thank you for the in-depth explanation. I need to do some study before commenting further other than to say so far I'm finding different comments depending on whether it's an SSD or an M.2 drive. Much appreciated, Mark On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:08 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:54 AM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > <<< SNIP >>> > > I guess I don't understand why you would put Knoppix in the boot > > partition vs somewhere else. Is this for some sort of recovery > > process you're comfortable with vs recovering from a bootable DVD? > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > <<< SNIP >>> > I guess I don't understand why you would put Knoppix in the boot  > partition vs somewhere else. Is this for some sort of recovery  > process you're comfortable with vs recovering from a bootable DVD? > > - Mark I'm wanting to be able to boot something from the

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 9:55 AM Dale wrote: > > I think what I read is that it is done automatically. They could have > meant a cron job. I don't think they said how, just that it is already > set up to do it. Firmware was mentioned in the thread somewhere so I > thought maybe that was it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 08:08:59AM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > If you have an SSD or nvme drive installed then fstrim should be > installed and run on a regular basis. However it's not 'required'. > > Your system will still work, but after all blocks on the drive have > been used for file

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 4:09 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > Sorry for any confusion. Time to unsubscribe from this list > I guess and leave you all to your beloved distro. > Please don't. I doubt someone is pissed off with you. Jorge Almeida > Bye, See above. > Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > Oh, please, don't go anywhere.    We already lost the long > term Alan.  BTW, I checked on him a while back.  He's still OK.  It's > been a while tho. > > > > Dale - I touched - truly. I'm happy to stick around but I no longer  > run Gentoo and don't want to cause

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
> > > Oh, please, don't go anywhere.We already lost the long term Alan. BTW, I checked on him a while back. He's still OK. It's been a while tho. > Dale - I touched - truly. I'm happy to stick around but I no longer run Gentoo and don't want to cause problems or piss off the folks who

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 1:44 AM William Kenworthy > wrote: > > > > > > On 16/4/23 15:18, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Sunday, 16 April 2023 02:47:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > > > > >> look into mount options for SSD's (discard option)

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 1:44 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 16/4/23 15:18, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 16 April 2023 02:47:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > > >> look into mount options for SSD's (discard option) and "fstrim" for > >> maintenance. (read up on trimmimg - doing a

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread William Kenworthy
On 16/4/23 15:18, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday, 16 April 2023 02:47:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote: look into mount options for SSD's (discard option) and "fstrim" for maintenance. (read up on trimmimg - doing a manual trim before the drive reaches full allocation (they delete files, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 16 April 2023 02:47:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > look into mount options for SSD's (discard option) and "fstrim" for > maintenance. (read up on trimmimg - doing a manual trim before the drive > reaches full allocation (they delete files, but do not erase them > because erasing is

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-15 Thread William Kenworthy
On 16/4/23 06:47, Dale wrote: Howdy, I finally broke down and bought a SSD.  It's a Samsung V-Nand 870 EVO 500GB.  My current OS sits on a 160GB drive so should be plenty.  I plan to even add a boot image for the Gentoo LiveGUI thingy, maybe Knoppix or something plus my usual OS.  By the way,

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-15 Thread thelma
On 4/15/23 17:24, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:47 PM Dale mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Howdy, > > I finally broke down and bought a SSD.  It's a Samsung V-Nand 870 EVO > 500GB.  My current OS sits on a 160GB drive so should be plenty.  I plan > to even add a

Re: [gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:47 PM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I finally broke down and bought a SSD. It's a Samsung V-Nand 870 EVO > 500GB. My current OS sits on a 160GB drive so should be plenty. I plan > to even add a boot image for the Gentoo LiveGUI thingy, maybe Knoppix or > something plus

[gentoo-user] Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on

2023-04-15 Thread Dale
Howdy, I finally broke down and bought a SSD.  It's a Samsung V-Nand 870 EVO 500GB.  My current OS sits on a 160GB drive so should be plenty.  I plan to even add a boot image for the Gentoo LiveGUI thingy, maybe Knoppix or something plus my usual OS.  By the way, caught one for sale for $40.00.