Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Michał Masłowski
There are currently no FSF-approved BSD distributions, and not many designed for servers. Do the GNU/Linux-libre distributions need separate design to be useful on servers? LibertyBSD is a fork of OpenBSD that contains only free software. That is, the firmware blobs - both distributed with

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [Riley Baird] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Luke Shumaker
At Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:45:12 -0800, Ali Abdul Ghani wrote: welcome This delightful News I have some suggestions - Replace clang to gcc Well, it's based on OpenBSD, which uses clang or gcc based on the architecture (as clang does not support all of the architectures that OpenBSD does).

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/12/14 07:13, Luke Shumaker wrote: At Mon, 29 Dec 2014 15:43:42 +1100, Riley Baird wrote: On 29/12/14 15:31, Jason Self wrote: Riley Baird orthogo...@librewrt.org wrote .. So, it is with great excitement that I announce today LibertyBSD. I wonder if there is an advantage to work with

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Michał Masłowski
I wonder if there is an advantage to work with the people of NuBSD [0] instead of starting another free BSD? I hadn't heard of them. It seems that they're system is based on FreeBSD, though. In any case, since I've already finished making LibertyBSD, I don't see any point in not releasing

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/12/14 07:17, Michał Masłowski wrote: There are currently no FSF-approved BSD distributions, and not many designed for servers. Do the GNU/Linux-libre distributions need separate design to be useful on servers? Yes. Most GNU/Linux-libre distributions have a GUI and various other

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [Riley Baird] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/12/14 07:20, Luke Shumaker wrote: At Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:45:12 -0800, Ali Abdul Ghani wrote: welcome This delightful News I have some suggestions - Replace clang to gcc Well, it's based on OpenBSD, which uses clang or gcc based on the architecture (as clang does not support all of

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/12/14 07:29, Michał Masłowski wrote: I wonder if there is an advantage to work with the people of NuBSD [0] instead of starting another free BSD? I hadn't heard of them. It seems that they're system is based on FreeBSD, though. In any case, since I've already finished making

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [Riley Baird] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Bryan Baldwin
On 12/30/2014 09:45 AM, Riley Baird wrote: Is there any significant reason, other than the license, that gcc is better than clang? I really don't want to deviate too much from upstream, and as long as the license is free, I don't see a problem. If it's about the license, I can see that

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Jason Self
Michał Masłowski asked: Do the GNU/Linux-libre distributions need separate design to be useful on servers? Riley Baird replied: Yes. Most GNU/Linux-libre distributions have a GUI and various other unnecessary, potentially vulnerable programs. These are useful for desktop users, but not for

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/12/14 11:19, Jason Self wrote: Michał Masłowski asked: Do the GNU/Linux-libre distributions need separate design to be useful on servers? Riley Baird replied: Yes. Most GNU/Linux-libre distributions have a GUI and various other unnecessary, potentially vulnerable programs.

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [Riley Baird] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Isaac David Reyes González
Better is very broad. Most people in these lists would see the GPL as an advantage, but none would deny that Clang or LLVM are essentially free and compatible (maybe after some proofreading work) with the FSF's Free System Distribution Guidelines. As much as I prefer GCC and the GNU GPL in

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [Riley Baird] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2014-12-29 Thread Isaac David Reyes González
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Isaac David Reyes González isacdaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, this is though. Tough I mean