[GNC-dev] Minority features and bad GUI decissions

2018-09-12 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
David, when I talk in this thread about "traditional" or "standard" I mean the "Venetian Method" as first published by Fra. Pacioli with ink on paper probably in roman numbers (without zero or minus) Am 13.09.2018 um 00:00 schrieb David T.: >> * IMHO special options are at least >> in book

Re: [GNC-dev] Git Questions With Documentation

2018-09-12 Thread David Cousens
> I tried to retain ch_accts.xml and ch_txns.xml in gnucash-guide.xml > and simply edit the three files so that > they became parts of a single chapter, but this resulted in mysterious > “Failure to process entity chapter2” errors > that I was entirely unable to edit away, except by copying the

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Mechtilde
Hello DAvid t. Am 13.09.18 um 00:00 schrieb David T.: > Hello, > > > Perhaps this is a reflection of the jurisdiction in which you live, but most > users in the US setting up GnuCash for personal use You don't know how many users use GnuCash for Personal use. You don't know how many users

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Am 13.09.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Graham Menhennitt: > On 13/09/2018 9:03 am, John Ralls wrote: >> ... have File>New just create a bare “Common Accounts” book for the >> current locale? We could pop up a dialog for opening balances on each >> of the bank accounts, cash-in-wallet, and the credit card.

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread D
On September 12, 2018, at 11:08 PM, John Ralls wrote: >It’s not a bit disingenuous. Consider the millions of mostly satisfied Quicken >users out there, some of whom wander our way and wonder why they should have >to learn about accounting just to track their bank accounts. IMO most of them

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread John Ralls
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:18 PM, David T. wrote: > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:03 PM, John Ralls wrote: >> >> Most individuals who aren’t familiar with formal accounting should probably >> be using something other than GnuCash. If all you want to do is keep track >> of your credit card,

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David Cousens
On Wed, 2018-09-12 at 10:38 -0400, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote: > Hello, > > As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug > 796855), I am working on the Help > information regarding the New Account Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I > have a couple of

[GNC-dev] Git Questions With Documentation

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Hello, I am sending this message as a heads up that I am preparing a PR for bug 796855, which seeks to pull content from the Help Manual Chapter 3 and put it into the Guide in Chapter 2. In the course of doing this, a number of other changes were called for, such that I needed to add the

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:03 PM, John Ralls wrote: > > Most individuals who aren’t familiar with formal accounting should probably > be using something other than GnuCash. If all you want to do is keep track of > your credit card, demand bank account (“checking account” for us fogies who >

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Graham Menhennitt
On 13/09/2018 9:03 am, John Ralls wrote: ... have File>New just create a bare “Common Accounts” book for the current locale? We could pop up a dialog for opening balances on each of the bank accounts, cash-in-wallet, and the credit card. And that dialog could have an "Advanced settings"

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread John Ralls
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:00 PM, David T. via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > Hello, > > I’d like to start by noting that this assistant is possibly one of the very > first things a new user will encounter when they start GnuCash for the very > first time, and it is this user upon which I am most

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Hello, I’d like to start by noting that this assistant is possibly one of the very first things a new user will encounter when they start GnuCash for the very first time, and it is this user upon which I am most focused. > On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: > > Am

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Am 12.09.2018 um 17:52 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel: > I understand this and agree. I fully expect that these options will be > described within the Guide; my point is that the NAHS assistant presents > options to new users that they are unlikely to comprehend and do not actually > need

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Mechtilde, I think there are some misunderstandings here. > On Sep 12, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Mechtilde wrote: > > Hello, > > what is the problem of a program to have functions than you use. > > If you look into the German translation i use all functions that are > translated and some few more

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, what is the problem of a program to have functions than you use. If you look into the German translation i use all functions that are translated and some few more which have up to now no ducumentation and I have no time to do it. So we should first document functions wehre the

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Geert Janssens
Op woensdag 12 september 2018 18:11:05 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone: > David, > > Maybe the place to discuss these settings *is* right up front when > explaining the setup? (though I agree, the assistant itself should walk the > user through the selection with more information) > Well, on that

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > Op woensdag 12 september 2018 16:38:42 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash- > devel: >> Hello, >> >> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug >> 796855), I am working on the Help information

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Mechtilde, > On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > > Hello David T. > > Am 12.09.18 um 16:38 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel: >> Hello, >> >> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug >> 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
As someone who has helped other people get started using GnuCash (and remembering my own first steps) I agree completely with these points. Those book preferences are not self explanatory. (perhaps bugs in their own right) A new user is left to either trust the defaults and move on, pause and

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Mechtilde
Hello David T. Am 12.09.18 um 16:38 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel: > Hello, > > As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug > 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account > Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a couple of

Re: [GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread Geert Janssens
Op woensdag 12 september 2018 16:38:42 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash- devel: > Hello, > > As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug > 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account > Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a

Re: [GNC-dev] Long Term Documentation Directions

2018-09-12 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, sorry I send the E-Mail not to the list. Am 12.09.18 um 12:59 schrieb David Cousens: > Mechtilde, > > I wasn't suggesting we use google translate at all where there is a human > translator available and willing, but in some > languages it may be difficult to get a translator, even though

[GNC-dev] New Account Hierarchy Setup Assistant Questions

2018-09-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Hello, As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a couple of questions about the second screen of the assistant, the “New Book Options”