Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-18 Thread flywire
Why doesn't updating report periods update dates? Displaying conflicting values is just wrong. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-18 Thread flywire
> Scheme isn't a very good language for serious programming. A rewrite is probably reasonable. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Designing_new_Reports demonstrates the code can be clear. The lack of responses to the report queries probably more due to: * unintelligible legacy code *

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Liz
On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 06:31:02 +1000 David H wrote: > This is getting ridiculous, can we stop the personal attacks now > please. I do not permit personal attacks on these English language Gnucash lists which I moderate. I privately email offenders to keep all of this off-list. Liz Moderator

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Borden via gnucash-devel
> 1: > after some cooling down of this discussion, you should create a pull > request against > https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/po/glossary/gnc-glossary.txt > I don't know what everybody's hysterical about, myself. I think using proper accounting terminology is useful, so I'm

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Arman Schwarz
This seems like a lot of work. Kudos to anyone who wants to put in the time, but I think the cost of maintaining a separate glossary exceeds the benefit. To be clear, by "cost" I don't just mean the effort of creating it, but also the risk that the newstarter community will be left to wade through

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread davidcousens49
Possibly needs crossreferences in the glossary. Accounting period is really a general term which can be any of weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi annual, annual, financial year, fiscal year as required by external and internal reporting requirements for an entity (person, business, company etc).

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi, There are at least 2 steps: 1. define the terminology as glossary 2. apply it to the messages of the program. 1: after some cooling down of this discussion, you should create a pull request against https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/po/glossary/gnc-glossary.txt If someone from

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Borden via gnucash-devel
> This is getting ridiculous, can we stop the personal attacks now please.  > Let's just accept that different countries call it Fiscal Year and others > call it Financial Year - my own accountant here in Oz calls it Financial Year > and that is also what we called it in NZ when I lived

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread David H
This is getting ridiculous, can we stop the personal attacks now please. Let's just accept that different countries call it Fiscal Year and others call it Financial Year - my own accountant here in Oz calls it Financial Year and that is also what we called it in NZ when I lived there. I guess

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Borden via gnucash-devel
> > I wouldn't after 4 years of animal science (humans plus) plus a lot of home > butchery. Look up the Dunning-Kruger Effect, two blokes got a nobel prize > for saying you're full of shit. Your GP knows bugger all about lymph nodes > anyway. > 1) In what year did David Dunning and/or Justin

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread flywire
> ...if I'm going to talk to a doctor (especially over the phone these days), > I'll take 10 minutes on the Internet so I can say that the pain is "along my > lymph nodes on the right side of my neck" than "the bumps next to my throat." I wouldn't after 4 years of animal science (humans plus)

[GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-07 Thread Borden via gnucash-devel
> > Formal vs. layman terminology--or behavior for that matter--is a constant > tension in GnuCash. AFAIK none of the developers has formal accounting > training past one or two college courses; most rather less. Even fewer of the > user base have any formal accounting training at all and so we

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-06 Thread Christian Stimming
Am 6. September 2021 16:46:25 MESZ schrieb john : >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap#Reports > Christian Stimming wrote the >last paragraph about replacing Scheme in 2011. > Oh, did I? The Internet never forgets... Anyone, feel free to edit

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-06 Thread john
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap#Reports Christian Stimming wrote the last paragraph about replacing Scheme in 2011. Regards, John Ralls > On Sep 6, 2021, at 4:41 AM, Christopher Lam wrote: > > Where is it mentioned that reports are being

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-06 Thread john
Re C++, you and your professor are at least 10 years out of date. Since the publication of the C++11 standard C++ has become easily the most modern and versatile language available with the possible exception of Rust. Unlike Rust it is an ISO standard language with one of the largest and most

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-06 Thread Christopher Lam
Where is it mentioned that reports are being converted to c++? There is currently a separation between libgnucash (eg the engine and backend database) and gnucash (eg the UI, reports, import/export). There is a drive to remove guile from libgnucash. This may allow libgnucash to be used in iOS for

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-06 Thread john
OK. I know what the general definition of a fiscal year is. I used to be a US Navy supply officer and had to keep books "the Navy way" (as in "the right way, the wrong way, and the Navy way"). The US Government operates on a fiscal year running from 1 Oct to 30 Sept. (It used to be 1 July to 30

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread flywire
I see Chris has pushed a PR through which appears to provide this functionality. I'd like to work on other reports too and this was a learning exercise as much as anything. What it doesn't do is help me as a community member develop skills with reports so I can work on those parts of the software

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread flywire
I use Fiscal Year (GnuCash term) ending 30 June reporting (ie 1 Jul 2020 - 30 Jun 2021 is 2021 year). Tax reports are prepared in the following Fiscal Year so I use reports on current and previous year, and two year's previous year for verification. Since tax reporting is on a Fiscal Year basis

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread David H
Christopher, Good to see you’re on to it :-) Thanks for all the work you’ve been putting in on the reports over the last few years as well. I see references/comments in the PR referring to “Fiscal” year. Just my view but “Fiscal” seems to be one of those terms that are rarely used by anyone

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread Christopher Lam
> How much time would it take to fix the code and not have to change the > dates annually? https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/459 > Can I save time and effort by changing the code? > Incidentally to the problem, how much will I learn for the future about > the code? > Lots!

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread David H
Not as simple as just changing the code in date-utilities.scm tho is it ? Financial years vary all over the globe so if it's flywire's plan to hard code this in date-utilities.scm it will only work for Australia. You really need to add something in preferences so users can set the start and

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread Liz Dodd
On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:37:01 +1000 Arman Schwarz wrote: > When I want to generate charts for financial years I just set the > start/end dates to 1 July / 30 June. I haven't run into a situation > where Australian financial years have caused problems. > > Is there a specific chart or report

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread Arman Schwarz
When I want to generate charts for financial years I just set the start/end dates to 1 July / 30 June. I haven't run into a situation where Australian financial years have caused problems. Is there a specific chart or report you're trying to run that doesn't work in this way? Arman On Mon, 6

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread David H
Hi John, FYI Fiscal year - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Fiscal_year

Re: [GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread john
> On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:50 AM, flywire wrote: > > Any chance of a bit of a hand working through the add-option to get Fiscal > Year working in the code? I've tested everything else and it works. It'd be > a nice fix for Australians. > > gnc:make-date-option needs an optional parameter for

[GNC-dev] Report with Fiscal Year

2021-09-05 Thread flywire
Any chance of a bit of a hand working through the add-option to get Fiscal Year working in the code? I've tested everything else and it works. It'd be a nice fix for Australians. gnc:make-date-option needs an optional parameter for year-start-month -

[GNC-dev] Report Links Broken

2021-09-02 Thread flywire
Links in reports don't work in Win10. I'd expect: 1. to be a clickable link 2. clicking gnucash-devel@gnucash.org to open up the mail client 3. Clicking Display Help to be the same as (ie Help, Contents), it doesn't work Links in Dashboard report work as expected.

Re: [GNC-dev] Report stylesheets are broken in git 3.8b-169-gb9d625d25+(2020-02-28)

2020-02-29 Thread Richard Ullger
On 29/02/2020 00:26, Christopher Lam wrote: > This may be caused by some recent changes to html-fonts when the gtk > theme is dark. Tell us what theme you're using? > I'm using kde plasma with the breeze-dark theme and krita dark colour scheme. GTK theme is breeze dark. Gnucash doesn't adhere

Re: [GNC-dev] Report stylesheets are broken in git 3.8b-169-gb9d625d25+(2020-02-28)

2020-02-28 Thread Christopher Lam
This may be caused by some recent changes to html-fonts when the gtk theme is dark. Tell us what theme you're using? On Sat, 29 Feb 2020, 6:24 am Richard Ullger, wrote: > The background colour and text colour settings are ignored. The background > colour is always white and the text colour is

[GNC-dev] Report stylesheets are broken in git 3.8b-169-gb9d625d25+(2020-02-28)

2020-02-28 Thread Richard Ullger
The background colour and text colour settings are ignored. The background colour is always white and the text colour is always black, regardless of the colours set in the stylesheet editor. Regards, Richard ___ gnucash-devel mailing list

Re: [GNC-dev] report

2019-06-03 Thread Maf. King
Dear Hilda, you've joined the wrong list. you've sent your message to the email list that discusses the low-level development of the Gnucash program. "how do I" questions are best sent to thea user-level list, that I've copied this to. Please remove the gnucash-devel email address from any

Re: [GNC-dev] report

2019-06-03 Thread Liz
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 12:50:42 +1000 Hilda Caceres-Rylatt wrote: > Dear Manager > I find so hard to get a simple list of invoices Payables entered for > the month. Your report options are non existent. It appears as a list > of vendor to be paid, no GST included. I need the information invoice >

[GNC-dev] report

2019-06-03 Thread Hilda Caceres-Rylatt
Dear Manager I find so hard to get a simple list of invoices Payables entered for the month. Your report options are non existent. It appears as a list of vendor to be paid, no GST included. I need the information invoice payable gst amount for this month for example. It is entered it does not

Re: [GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-10 Thread Christopher Lam
Any rework will require stabilising the reports first, removing unintelligible hacks, and updating to modern scheme (which is now approaching V8 quality and speed). The current state of report code reflects the tooling available about 20 years ago. So the following will be on the TODO list before

Re: [GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-07 Thread Phil Longstaff
I don't know how it fits into this rework, but I would like to see a more general framework which supports reports with 'items' down the side and 'periods' across the top. I put them in quotes because they are a bit general. I've worked with an accounting system in the past which allowed general

Re: [GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-07 Thread John Ralls
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 1:14 PM, John Ralls wrote: > > > >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Carsten Rinke wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> this takes up a discussion with John and Christopher in PR#360 (and I am >> happy to see that is was merged :-D ) >> >> As the discussion turned away from the

Re: [GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-07 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 7 juni 2018 22:14:34 CEST schreef John Ralls: > We'd like to better separate the data retrieval and summarization from the > presentation, perhaps with an intermediate format. We'd also like to be > able to use something lighter and more portable than WebKitGtk for > in-program report

Re: [GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-07 Thread John Ralls
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Carsten Rinke wrote: > > Hi, > > this takes up a discussion with John and Christopher in PR#360 (and I am > happy to see that is was merged :-D ) > > As the discussion turned away from the actual proposal of a test for the > report definition, I'd suggest to

[GNC-dev] Report System Rework

2018-06-07 Thread Carsten Rinke
Hi, this takes up a discussion with John and Christopher in PR#360 (and I am happy to see that is was merged :-D ) As the discussion turned away from the actual proposal of a test for the report definition, I'd suggest to move it to this channel. John: You were mentioning that you and