Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
I assume https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Using_GnuCash=revision=16811=15311 will help.;-) Am 30.09.20 um 16:59 schrieb Christopher Lam: > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Quickstart_Australian_BAS > > Other recipes are always welcome. Frank will hopefully increase visibility > :) ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Quickstart_Australian_BAS Other recipes are always welcome. Frank will hopefully increase visibility :) On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 00:29, Christopher Lam wrote: > That's right, I forgot. For that matter I'd modified the Income > Statement report to include variants for UK-VAT (Box 1-9) and AU-BAS which > tallies only G1 1A and 1B exclusively. Will modify prior to publish... > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 21:52, Liz Dodd wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:05:42 + >> Christopher Lam wrote: >> >> > Devel, >> > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes >> > to get going quickly? >> > See draft, attached. >> >> Chris, the ATO asks for your option 2, with gross sales etc. I always >> do my form with option 1, and it appears that so long as I pay the >> money, they don't mind. >> >> Liz >> ___ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
That's right, I forgot. For that matter I'd modified the Income Statement report to include variants for UK-VAT (Box 1-9) and AU-BAS which tallies only G1 1A and 1B exclusively. Will modify prior to publish... On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 21:52, Liz Dodd wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:05:42 + > Christopher Lam wrote: > > > Devel, > > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes > > to get going quickly? > > See draft, attached. > > Chris, the ATO asks for your option 2, with gross sales etc. I always > do my form with option 1, and it appears that so long as I pay the > money, they don't mind. > > Liz > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
To David T, On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:52 PM Liz Dodd wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:05:42 + > Christopher Lam wrote: > > > Devel, > > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes > > to get going quickly? > > See draft, attached. > > Chris, the ATO asks for your option 2, with gross sales etc. I always > do my form with option 1, and it appears that so long as I pay the > money, they don't mind. > > Liz > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:05:42 + Christopher Lam wrote: > Devel, > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes > to get going quickly? > See draft, attached. Chris, the ATO asks for your option 2, with gross sales etc. I always do my form with option 1, and it appears that so long as I pay the money, they don't mind. Liz ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Frank, The entire Guide was originally written as a step-by-step "cookbook" with sections in each chapter "putting it all together." Those sections have slowly disappeared over time, in large part because they were overly specific (an existing example is the section that uses a Degas painting as an example of capital gains?!?), or used informal language that obscured the underlying concepts they were trying to explain. Putting case studies on the wiki is far and away a better solution than re-cluttering the Guide with information that only a few will need. David T. On 9/28/2020 12:02 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Am 28.09.20 um 16:35 schrieb Christopher Lam: I'm not convinced the generic Guide is an appropriate location for such country-specific recipes. Neither you nor your draft told us explicitly that it is an Aussi thing. ;-) The wiki is fine but has poor organisation. I created Category:AU and Category:GST/VAT on behalf of you and populated the later after a simple search. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Category:GST/VAT gives you an impression. Hence my original query above. Contrast: https://beancount.github.io/docs/ We do not have the human resources to maintain another set of docs. But I would like to use "Cookbook & Examples" as title of a new part of the Guide. ~Frank ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
David,
Adding to the Appendices is, I think, a serious mistake. The Appendices
are where good intentions go to be ignored and forever enshrined in
2006. Take a look at the history and content of, for example, Appendices
A and B for example.
David T.
On 9/28/2020 9:52 AM, David Carlson wrote:
Perhaps it would be better to format it as an appendix with
reference(s) in appropriate places in the body of the Guide. This
would allow more detail for those who are interested without boring
those who do not need the information.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:36 AM D. via gnucash-devel
mailto:gnucash-devel@gnucash.org>> wrote:
I agree with Frank's suggestions. The Guide would be the best spot
(probably in the Business Setup area of chapter 13). And you do
need to expand abbreviations at the first instance.
From an editorial perspective, I think a little more explanatory
background would help users understand the purpose here. Also,
full account hierarchies are important (unless the GST account is
a top level account?).
David T.
Original Message
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" mailto:frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Mon Sep 28 09:20:21 EDT 2020
To: Christopher Lam mailto:christopher@gmail.com>>
Cc: gnucash-devel mailto:gnucash-devel@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Hi Chris,
in theory the Guide is the right place, but if you think it still
needs
improvement, you can put it in the wiki.
Note on your draft: Abbreviations should be defined on the first usage
or, if they are used in different places in the glossary and
linked from
the first occurrence in each page.
Regards
Frank
Am 28.09.20 um 14:05 schrieb Christopher Lam:
> Devel,
> Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use
recipes to get
> going quickly?
> See draft, attached.
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Am 28.09.20 um 16:35 schrieb Christopher Lam: > I'm not convinced the generic Guide is an appropriate location for such > country-specific recipes. Neither you nor your draft told us explicitly that it is an Aussi thing. ;-) > The wiki is fine but has poor organisation. I created Category:AU and Category:GST/VAT on behalf of you and populated the later after a simple search. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Category:GST/VAT gives you an impression. > Hence my original query above. > > Contrast: https://beancount.github.io/docs/ We do not have the human resources to maintain another set of docs. But I would like to use "Cookbook & Examples" as title of a new part of the Guide. ~Frank ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Sure. Wiki is fine. I wasn't aware that it was country-specific, which certainly affects its proper placement. Probably that detail would be useful--as in, "Here is a quick how-to for managing GST in Genovia. It may also prove useful for other jurisdictions, such as Latveria and Wakanda." David T. On 9/28/2020 11:36 AM, John Ralls wrote: On Sep 28, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Christopher Lam wrote: I'm not convinced the generic Guide is an appropriate location for such country-specific recipes. The wiki is fine but has poor organisation. Hence my original query above. Contrast: https://beancount.github.io/docs/ That's supposed to be an example of good organization? Good grief. I agree with you and disagree with David and Frank about putting articles like that in the guide. The Wiki is the right place for it. Add a link to https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Using_GnuCash to help make it discoverable. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
> On Sep 28, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Christopher Lam > wrote: > > I'm not convinced the generic Guide is an appropriate location for such > country-specific recipes. The wiki is fine but has poor organisation. > > Hence my original query above. > > Contrast: https://beancount.github.io/docs/ That's supposed to be an example of good organization? Good grief. I agree with you and disagree with David and Frank about putting articles like that in the guide. The Wiki is the right place for it. Add a link to https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Using_GnuCash to help make it discoverable. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
I'm not convinced the generic Guide is an appropriate location for such country-specific recipes. The wiki is fine but has poor organisation. Hence my original query above. Contrast: https://beancount.github.io/docs/ On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:52, David Carlson wrote: > Perhaps it would be better to format it as an appendix with reference(s) in > appropriate places in the body of the Guide. This would allow more detail > for those who are interested without boring those who do not need the > information. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:36 AM D. via gnucash-devel < > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > I agree with Frank's suggestions. The Guide would be the best spot > > (probably in the Business Setup area of chapter 13). And you do need to > > expand abbreviations at the first instance. > > > > From an editorial perspective, I think a little more explanatory > > background would help users understand the purpose here. Also, full > account > > hierarchies are important (unless the GST account is a top level > account?). > > > > David T. > > > > > > Original Message > > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" > > Sent: Mon Sep 28 09:20:21 EDT 2020 > > To: Christopher Lam > > Cc: gnucash-devel > > Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > in theory the Guide is the right place, but if you think it still needs > > improvement, you can put it in the wiki. > > > > Note on your draft: Abbreviations should be defined on the first usage > > or, if they are used in different places in the glossary and linked from > > the first occurrence in each page. > > > > Regards > > Frank > > > > Am 28.09.20 um 14:05 schrieb Christopher Lam: > > > Devel, > > > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes to > > get > > > going quickly? > > > See draft, attached. > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-devel mailing list > > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > > > ___ > > gnucash-devel mailing list > > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Perhaps it would be better to format it as an appendix with reference(s) in appropriate places in the body of the Guide. This would allow more detail for those who are interested without boring those who do not need the information. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:36 AM D. via gnucash-devel < gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> wrote: > I agree with Frank's suggestions. The Guide would be the best spot > (probably in the Business Setup area of chapter 13). And you do need to > expand abbreviations at the first instance. > > From an editorial perspective, I think a little more explanatory > background would help users understand the purpose here. Also, full account > hierarchies are important (unless the GST account is a top level account?). > > David T. > > > Original Message > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" > Sent: Mon Sep 28 09:20:21 EDT 2020 > To: Christopher Lam > Cc: gnucash-devel > Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks > > Hi Chris, > > in theory the Guide is the right place, but if you think it still needs > improvement, you can put it in the wiki. > > Note on your draft: Abbreviations should be defined on the first usage > or, if they are used in different places in the glossary and linked from > the first occurrence in each page. > > Regards > Frank > > Am 28.09.20 um 14:05 schrieb Christopher Lam: > > Devel, > > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes to > get > > going quickly? > > See draft, attached. > > > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > ___ > gnucash-devel mailing list > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
I agree with Frank's suggestions. The Guide would be the best spot (probably in the Business Setup area of chapter 13). And you do need to expand abbreviations at the first instance. >From an editorial perspective, I think a little more explanatory background >would help users understand the purpose here. Also, full account hierarchies >are important (unless the GST account is a top level account?). David T. Original Message From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" Sent: Mon Sep 28 09:20:21 EDT 2020 To: Christopher Lam Cc: gnucash-devel Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks Hi Chris, in theory the Guide is the right place, but if you think it still needs improvement, you can put it in the wiki. Note on your draft: Abbreviations should be defined on the first usage or, if they are used in different places in the glossary and linked from the first occurrence in each page. Regards Frank Am 28.09.20 um 14:05 schrieb Christopher Lam: > Devel, > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes to get > going quickly? > See draft, attached. > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] Cookbooks
Hi Chris, in theory the Guide is the right place, but if you think it still needs improvement, you can put it in the wiki. Note on your draft: Abbreviations should be defined on the first usage or, if they are used in different places in the glossary and linked from the first occurrence in each page. Regards Frank Am 28.09.20 um 14:05 schrieb Christopher Lam: > Devel, > Is there a suitable place where we could direct users to use recipes to get > going quickly? > See draft, attached. > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
