> Next ... to learn how to help revise/expand this page-
https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/acct-delete.html ... to
capture what I've learned here.
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Improvement
Fairly daunting for many. It might be simpler to just contribute suggested
> I make money personally, I own a couple of properties, and I also
design and manufacture audio devices. These are basically different
entities...
I doubt it. If they are all reported as part of the one tax return they are
enterprises rather than entities. Entity finances are normally kept
Just use a sub account of the bank account for credits and debits. If you
have more complex reporting then use filter reports -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2024-May/111804.html
Regards
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Welcome to GnuCash.
I use an old version of QuickBooks for Business Cash Accounting, and I also
use GnuCash. Transaction data is not available from QuickBooks in iif
format. The best you can do is print reports containing transaction data
but it's not worth the effort. Again, welcome to GnuCash
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases describes the release changes
but your question is obviously about understanding the practical impact
from a user's perspective. I note lots of Gremlins reported in the mailing
list about V5.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2024-May/111808.html
> Does [Debits and Credits] make more sense now?
Yes, well put. That perspective would be worth reworking as a brief
information pane in the Guide.
>
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David, the guide even warns that accounting debits and credits are
used contrary to the way most people understand them. The average
punter will be wrong, and if they get it right the next punter will
likely bet they are wrong.
Reporting other than by a normal COA structure has always and continues to
be in demand. The latest dev decision seems to be:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1585771847
> ...if we take out the language about multidimensional analysis and... tags
> and do it as a report
>
> You need to get a grasp of double entry bookkeeping concepts...
I agree but I wouldn't focus on the formal meaning of Credit/Debit, even if
you understand it most people have the wrong understanding -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106929.html - and
following the
Use the custom transaction report at
https://github.com/dawansv/gnucash-custom-reports?tab=readme-ov-file#tag-prefix
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Christopher
Lam wrote:
> Please be aware that the inventory part won't be handled via GnuCash: while
> you can
Tag the transactions and report on tagged transactions.
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Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> I don't think you are picturing what I meant by both ways.
Yes, it is very clear but given my experience with other financial software
I don't agree endlessly dividing the COAs into unknown
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Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> d) What you can;t do is have it both ways. Traditional double entry
> bookkeeping allows only one tree structure for the CoA. To get it
> different in different reports you would have to BOTH
GnuCash reports are much more basic than QuickBooks but should be adequate
and there is no sample dataset available for testing the system. If you use
classes have a look at https://github.com/dawansv/gnucash-custom-reports
The big advantage is you have import/export access to your data and it
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Fred Tydeman wrote:
> Is there a way to force reports (such as Assets over time) to show values
> on the last day of the month (instead of the first day of the month)?
Try GnuCash V4
Just simplifying the field/attribute names with terms like Item and Type
would help more generalised inventory use without detracting from current
functionality. Jargon like Namespace has no place in the user interface.
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>* I created a "FUND" with the symbol "Miles" abbreviated "M," and I
created a*
>* Liability account called Mileage, whose currency is Miles, with a contra*
>* liability account called "Driving Owed," whose currency is Dollars.*
The GnuCash inventory interface is very ordinary comparing the
tem in
> C++ so the hack can't be applied any more.
But I think it's unnecessary since changing the accounting period in
> preferences to e.g. 1 July 2023 - 30 June 2024 accompanies [sic] the same
> thing...
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2024-March/110996.html
You don't need long text lines to allocate splits to rental properties.
Have a look at Custom GnuCash 5.x Transaction Report with Tags -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107048.html
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On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 at 17:26, Geoff wrote:
> Maybe I am missing something here
Absolutely.
Say the height of a sporting team member was given as 2.2m high. Was the
measurement correct? Who knows! You can use relative values to assess the
credibility of a number. Given two other members
How should shares be recorded in GnuCash once receivers are appointed?
Shares are no longer being traded but the ASX quote feed returns the price
last traded. There seems to be a realistic (management) value and a tax
value. The realistic share value is zero but I understand the tax value is
the
Follow the links through to the code - cur-year and cal-year. The hack
supports: this, last and 2 years prior fiscal years which is about
what you want preparing tax reports.
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With Gnucash V5 current year with a configurable day/month/year was removed
and hard-coded as calendar year.
Alternatives:
1. Run a GnuCash portable app version since settings are held in the app
folder -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/GnuCash%20Portable/
2. The
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-October/109255.html
Alan Hopkins wrote:
> I know an accountant who has, for at least one business, accepted printed
P & Balance Sheet from a 2002 version of Quickbooks together with end of
year bank statements - he has never wanted to get the
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-October/109184.html
Edwin Booth wrote:
> I need to wrap my head around the whole “debit/credit” concept.
No you don't but you do need to understand the concept of account types and
moving money between them. I've studied economics at Uni,
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-October/109173.html
David Cousens wrote:
> I would suggest you read at least the introductory sections of the
GnuCash Tutorial and Concepts guide under the heading Basics
https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=5=C=guide
I doubt many people
While importing csv files is only really explained in the manual
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/trans-import.html#trans-import-csv
(not the guide) in terms of transactions, there is a lot of supporting
information for the Price Import Assistant in
Can we focus this back on improving the clarity of the Price Import
Assistant? The first page is essentially the full documentation of the
process.
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/5.4/gnucash/gtkbuilder/assistant-csv-price-import.glade#L55
uses the column labels: Date, Amount, From
Yes Ove, clearly there is more to it as demonstrated by your example.
I can see the importer is using Commodity, Price Database uses Security,
and Security Editor uses Namespace and Symbol.
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/gnc-gloss.html doesn't help
much.
The process works but the Price Import Assistant Summary description and
poor user interface labels are confusing. I use csv import all the time but
this is so bad I can't understand it.
[the minimum columns] are Date, Amount, From Namespace, From Symbol and
Currency To. If all entries are for
I'll work with the Price Import Assistant druid. Is it actually documented?
I found https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/CSV_Import/Export#Importing_Prices
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I have loaded my stock portfolio into GnuCash for tax reporting purposes.
I'd like to update stock prices annually by importing the closing value for
30 June from a csv. Can someone give me a rundown on the required input and
process? I'd be happy to add it to
JC writes :
> If using QuickBooks in which you can assign a transaction to a
> vendor/customer, I don't have to create invoices and bills just for the
> sake of tracking the payment sources and targets.
Yeah, the GnuCash business workflow seems a crazy complicated manual
process coming from
://github.com/flywire/ETF-Annual-Statement from tax
statements, both for csv import.
Given Python bindings are not available in a binary they are really a fake
feature and https://piecash.readthedocs.io is not genuine GnuCash so you'd
have to get support from that project
Also, https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-June/107567.html
would probably readily adapt for commission.
>
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JC wrote:
> I really wished that GC would have the option to link Vendor/Customer to a
> transaction without creating a bill or invoice. Any future development
> plans for
The first two sections of the GnuCash Guide
https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide are a tutorial to introduce
accounting and the application respectively.
The whole concept of reconciling a cheque account is very dated in a time
when countries move to abandon cash, but it covers the
I got sick typing into a spreadsheet so I got the app to extract the data
directly from the pdf to create the transaction splits:
https://github.com/flywire/ETF-Annual-Statement
One line of code will compile it into a Windows *.exe to avoid python if
anyone wants it. There is a start on a gui
> it's already available as a custom report which I will maintain for the
time being: https://github.com/dawansv/gnucash-custom-reports
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 at 09:57, flywire wrote:
> A classic case for a single file with tags:
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623
>
A classic case for a single file with tags:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623
It works but it is not part of standard GnuCash.
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>* IIRC There is a description in chapter 9 of the Tutorial.*
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/invest-retofcap.html
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> How does one record an Addition to basis for a stock?
Good question.
I only got my head around this recently (eg
https://github.com/flywire/ETF-Annual-Statement uses ASX:VAS - Vanguard
Australian Shares).
Entity,Date,Description,Acco
?? Importing Bank Statements works fine and saves the data entry issues.
Certainly, other means are required to verify the data. A duplicate
insurance payment was identified straight away after importing a bank
statement for tax reporting.
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> Yeah, it's gotten a lot faster since...
>
GnuCash V5.2
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https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/User_talk:Christopherlam
Businesses aim to make money and GST is charged on that income so it
follows GST is a liability. Liability:GST:GST on Sales (ie tax collected)
and Liability:GST:GST on Purchases (ie tax paid) shows the
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Installation#Upgrading
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The responses make it clear Vince's results are as expected. Why are mine
different? See https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798964#c14
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 at 14:00, flywire wrote:
> Is it CR or DB?
>
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Is it CR or DB? Who knows, toss a coin:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798964
An interesting list of accounts adapted from a comment with an `*` next to
the main account types:
* BALANCE ACCCOUNT TYPE DEBITCREDIT
debitNONE Funds In Funds Out
debit
Apologies, (no edit on the mailing list), see
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798987 - the previous link was the
multi-split bug fixed in V5.3.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 17:19, flywire wrote:
> I've submitted an updated working example with python code as an
> enhancement r
I've submitted an updated working example with python code as an
enhancement request for the importer to:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798964
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Does anyone have a workaround to get a csv multisplit transaction report to
load with values in V5? https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798964
btw, Amount(negated) seems to be a triumph of gibberish over English.
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This is a preliminary (spreadsheet) process to add GST splits to a bank
statement and use a multisplit csv file to import them to GnuCash.
1. Start with Bank Statement based on the Guide Checking Account -
see GST_Demo_Statement.csv
2. Accounts should exist for the transactions -
see
John,
Hmm, it's all irrelevant with Australian GST. Generally, a return is
submitted each quarter with GST collected less GST paid, and a payment is
made by the appropriate party for the difference. It doesn't matter if it
is income, a capital item, or stock.
With my experience of Quickbooks I
t;
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-June/107428.html
> flywire wrote:
> > ...
>
USA user comments tend to imply GnuCash uses a USA Point-Of-Sale model for
Invoicing and Billing. Attaching the tax code to the income/expense account
(like Quickbooks) would be
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-June/107406.html
David Cousens wrote:
> If you look at this section of the business features setting up tax
tables is described.
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/bus_setup.html It works for
invoices and should work similarly for
uld
be automated.
> flywire: you mentioned that you use QuickBooks for business, have you tried
using Odoo?
I have tried many packages but not Odoo. Manual data entry is the most
time-consuming task so I give accounting package right of veto to
the person doing data entry. Apart from the farm bu
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1583966278
"GnuCash is for tiny and simple enterprises; we often say individuals and
sole proprietorships. Even having employees makes using GnuCash a dubious
proposition (no payroll module), as does carrying more than a very few line
items
> If you follow the upgrade path, the recommended method is...
OK, where is that documented? If the current version of GnuCash won't work
with older data file versions it should display an error message without
opening the file.
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A lot of discussion in the mailing list about this subject but there
doesn't seem to be anything in the docs.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-January/094704.html
suggests most of the discussion is misplaced.
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> If the new version could be installed alongside the current version and
data files kept separate
It's not necessarily new version and current version. Two versions, same
computer -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-March/105955.html
In Windows, use GnuCash installed on
Sure, GnuCash will do that as tags, but it's different.
See https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107072.html
and https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107073.html
for details. QuickBooks only allows one class but you can have multiple
tags in Gnucash.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107018.html
flywire wrote:
> It is a spreadsheet process to add share/franking credits to etf/franking
> credits (Distribution:13Q) and similar for capital gains
> (Distribution:18H:18A) since the components are the same tax
The intention was to highlight the response used accounts, not the built-in
tax report, rather than suggest the tax report should be available to
Australians. I imagine the report allows tax codes to be attached to
accounts and sums all accounts for the same code. I was taught to align
accounts to
ithub.com/flywire/ETF-Annual-Statement/blob/main/VAS-annual-tax-statement-2018.png
and https://github.com/flywire/ETF-Annual-Statement as codes.
It is a spreadsheet process to add share/franking credits to etf/franking
credits (Distribution:13Q) and similar for capital gains
(Distribution:18H:1
GnuCash is presented as a double entry accounting system using debits and
credits, but it's not special, it just lacks a good explanation. The Guide
starts with a quick overview followed by The Basics describing Accounting
Concepts. The guide even warns that accounting debits and credits are used
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Keyboard_Shortcuts
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Vince you are a champion!
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1530788858
> My personal view is this workaround is the most significant improvement
since V2.
Does this offer an opportunity to achieve the long-requested
classification/category/dimension report:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113772#c6 ? I'm thinking of
grouping by the first tag in the memo split with the last group being
untagged splits.
Regards
John,
Seems like an X-Y response. The meaning of a hack is clear, although this
is more of a tweak, and where it occurs hardly matters if it's not part of
a PR. A response in terms of using existing report/module code in a new
report would be fine.
as previously working.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106563.html
John Ralls wrote:
> Nope, accounting periods didn't get fixed so everything I said in 2021
> about that is still true.
>
> >
> https://github.com/flywire/gnucash/blob/Fiscal-year/libgnucash/ap
Your assumptions are wrong. Clearly, communication from the developer(s)
was ineffective. Full advice of the "major change" quoted in
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106463.html
with no response to the request for guidance.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 15:20, Vincent Dawans
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-March/106080.html
That's a great question George which has been annoying me for ages so I
flicked it over to the LibreOffice Ask site:
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/open-html-file-in-calc-from-os/90615
It would make a good tip for our docs.
I can't see how.
Firstly, from previous comments, people don't seem to understand my
workflow. The suggestion it is only a matter of setting the Accounting
Period once per year is so wrong without changing start date of year.
To briefly summarise, I have half a dozen entities and a few extras,
How do people do their budgeting? Budgets need planning, reporting, and
revising based on actual transactions. GnuCash reports of past transactions
can help budget and a cashbook is best positioned for reporting budget
compared to year-to-date amounts.
A monthly budget simply dividing annual
Vincent, you seem confident. I posted an example. Can you demonstrate
changing say Start of This Year to 1 July in V5?
Code at
https://github.com/flywire/gnucash/blob/Fiscal-year/libgnucash/app-utils/date-utilities.scm#L557-L569
works in V4 (check cur-year/cal-year). See comments at
https
I've updated https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports to GnuCash V5.
I'd appreciate those interested in custom reports testing it and providing
feedback because there are still parts left over from historical versions
and other parts that do/don't work in Linux with no Windows equivalents.
Chris, you are a second class user. GnuCash was written to use fiscal year
but a change made in 2001, exposed to users in 2006, dropped fiscal
year and introduced calendar year(s) and an accounting period. Years (this
and previous) is the first class service, automatic relative to current
date but
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On 3/22/2023 4:56 PM, R Losey wrote:
>* It may not just be a matter of separate directories... an install
*>* program may put things (like DLLs for MS Windows) in some common
*>* directories.*
That is exactly what PortableApps manages to put apps in self-contained
Try the required version of GnuCash PortableApp for Windows. See
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-February/105343.html
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> the tutorial is rather cumbersome to read thru
Certainly, so don't. It's learn by example and it works, so open up a file
and enter the transactions. Try this layout based on an old guide:
https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io
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TLDR;
* Pick a default account and get wife to update the account in GnuCash
* Experience will teach her to put more meaningful descriptions on
transactions
* Consolidate accounts
* Maybe a PayPal account is not needed in GnuCash
* Credit/Debit terms are ambiguous and confusing, Deposit/Withdrawal
Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
> Some day I may contribute an improvement to this [documentation] section,
because it keeps confusing me.
This is a good multicurrency account example although it's not relevant to
most people where the currency is converted during the account transaction
(ie a single
> What I'm looking for is a set of demo accounts.
Have another look at the GnuCash Tutorial and Concepts Guide. You could do
something to work with that data and extend it to using csv.
Example data (
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/attachments/20210718/2f60caee/attachment.obj
)
1. Yes
2. https://portableapps.com/development
btw, it is a standard distribution format with some packages, eg
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/
On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 at 13:07, john wrote:
> Does "just repackages distributions" mean that you believe that they're
>
Following on from
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-January/105287.html to
clear up a few misconceptions.
I have enough experience with PortableApps to have packaged an app. It just
repackages distributions so, like GnuCash, there is no reason for it to
contain any source code
Anyone can run https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable in
Windows without installing it. It is probably better than installing
GnuCash on your computer. It also allows you to install a dev version on
your computer without messing up the working version.
I still think you would be
To make significant changes to transactions I normally export them as csv,
change the file, delete the transactions with a keyboard shortcut, and
import them back in.
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I doubt your jurisdiction is that naive. I'd expect you'd pay tax on the
$25k capital gain on disposal and your son would have a $30k basis price.
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Common advice is don't mix personal and business bank accounts but almost
everyone does with personal tax. You could do what you want with a business
account under each top-level account or bank account then report against
those accounts but it would be fiddly.
It is a classic class issue, ie one
If you do the "Putting It All Together" sections as you go through the
guide you will learn the basics and have a sample set of books. It starts
with:
https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/guide/C/ch_basics.html#putting-it-all-together
> that isn't the latest, nor official
R Losey wrote:
> You need to make sure that your... stock is set up as an account type of
> "Mutual Fund" or "Stock"
No you don't, dividends can be entered into a dividend account like any
other transaction. The main feature of a "Stock" account type is easier
revaluation of a portfolio, ie
The guide isn't really enough. Try these (checking the attachments) and
follow the last thread:
* Dividends -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-August/097500.html
* Trusts (eg ETFs) -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-August/102563.html
* Portfolio -
The Transaction report has an option to hide transaction data and just
report Account totals; Option, Sorting, Show subtotals only (hide
transaction data). Prefixing all lines with "Total for " and highlighting
them makes the report harder to read.
I tweaked
There is no panacea for replacing QuickBooks with GnuCash but I'm starting
to warm to the workarounds:
* https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-February/099811.html
- use tags instead of classes, the transaction report is the only one that
supports filtering so other reports would
Make sure you understand what Gnucash offers as it could be a
massive downgrade from Quickbooks. I use Quickbooks and GnuCash, each for
different books because neither has all the features I need. Specifically,
GnuCash does not support classes or automated GST (tax) for cash accounting
(so I've
I'd expect there are easier invoicing packages, but you will likely need
much more. I don't know why there is no tutorial for GnuCash business
features (which only support accrual accounting) but each feature has an
example transaction. I don't use those features and agree, they seem
confusing.
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It is my understanding certain legal documents need an amount to be
effected but normally it is not actually paid, so there would be no £1 in
the books. It probably becomes an unpaid invoice or loan but that's
lawyer/accountant detail.
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