Re: [GNC] Backup

Please include the group when you reply. I am unable to help you further. On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:35 PM James Baxter wrote: > David Carlson > Sir. Sorry if I said the wrong thing. I was in Gnucash as I was looking to > get it straight. "I do know". I was looking at the backup. I was looking

Re: [GNC] Backup

Gosh! Heck! Yes! Information wants to be free. There is so much stuff out there it is hard to determine what is good information and what is not. It is easy to determine commercial stuff because sooner or later one will encounter a paywall, right? That is why Askleo is a great resource. Here's

Re: [GNC] Backup

James I think that you need a third party primer on how to back up the data on your computer. Without promoting any particular commercial products the following U-Tube video may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFw6kiH52TM On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:09 PM Stephen wrote: > James, you're

Re: [GNC] Backup

James, you're getting some good advice in the responses you've received so far. May I add that it might be useful to review the Gnucash Tutorial and Concepts Guide regarding types of files Gnucash makes/uses. This is in Chapter 2 (Ver 4 Tutorial) called Backing Up and Recovering Data. There is

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 2023-06-28 13:21, David Carlson wrote: > James, > > When your computer fails, your data will be gone unless you, by your own > volition, have made a special plan to back up your data to a safe and > proper external location. Nobody here can tell you if you made a proper > choice. That also

Re: [GNC] Backup

James, When your computer fails, your data will be gone unless you, by your own volition, have made a special plan to back up your data to a safe and proper external location. Nobody here can tell you if you made a proper choice. That also goes for all the other data on your computer. A

Re: [GNC] Backup

Sir. I am using LibreOffice. There is a backup in the program. So I use that. I am going to reread your email to see what you are talking about. ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:49 AM, James Baxter wrote: David You are not

Re: [GNC] Backup

GNUCash does backups by default if you use XML. Every time you save there is a backup made. It sits in the same directory as your main data file (I wish you could specify a specific folder.) However, what the folks on this chain are talking about is a backup of those files in case the hard

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 6/28/2023 7:18 AM, Maf. King wrote: Hi James, I'm Maf, not David, and I can't tell you that from here. I would suggest that on a philosophical level, if you don't *know* that your back-up strategy is working (and you can recover files from it at will), then it might be time to rethink your

Re: [GNC] Backup

Hi James, I'm Maf, not David, and I can't tell you that from here. I would suggest that on a philosophical level, if you don't *know* that your back-up strategy is working (and you can recover files from it at will), then it might be time to rethink your strategy. good luck, Maf. On

Re: [GNC] Backup

David You are not tell me if the backup is working or not. ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 3:35 AM, Maf. King wrote: On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 00:46:45 BST James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote: > I have a backup drive. I

Re: [GNC] Backup

On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 00:46:45 BST James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote: > I have a backup drive. I have looked over it and I don't see it. Does > Gnucash have a backup. Or what. ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com > Hi James. If you are using the default XML file to store your GC

Re: [GNC] Backup

James, Did you design your backup strategy to include your GnuCash data? And did you test the strategy to see if you could recover the data? If so, you should be good. If not, you have some work to do. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 6:47 PM James Baxter via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org>

[GNC] Backup

I have a backup drive. I have looked over it and I don't see it. Does Gnucash have a backup. Or what. ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder - solution for Windows

Thanks for replies. 1) My approach was to leave the GNC backup process as is and handle the files only (moving them out of the base dir). 2) I have many other files also in a folder where my budget database file resists, so I wanted to move backups instantly. 3) I also wanted

[GNC] Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows

Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2022 00:47:05 +0200 > From: GNC mailinglist > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: [GNC] Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows > Message-ID: <875471b7354140d490ddd6c5dd291...@grupawp.pl> > Content-Type: text/plain; char

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

Not at all! Just adding info for this great community and for the next person that searches On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 10:22 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Of course. Sorry if it seemed I implied otherwise. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/5/22 9:02 AM, Glenn Fowler

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

not simply use "*.gnucash" for the backup file as that would move the main data file as well, so it must be "*.gnucash.*.gnucash". Jack -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of Glenn Fowler Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 7:12 PM To: GNC mailinglist Cc: gnuc

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

Of course. Sorry if it seemed I implied otherwise. Regards, Adrien On 8/5/22 9:02 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote: Even with the SQLite database you still need backups. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

Even with the SQLite database you still need backups. One could use the built-in backup scheme to guard against user error or database corruption and then also a copy to other media (cloud, external drive, etc.) to guard against hardware failure. On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 9:37 AM Adrien Monteleone

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

An alternative is to use the SQLite backend. There is no file cluttering, and the added bonus of instant saves rather than periodic. I'm not sure how easy that is to set up on Windows, however. Regards, Adrien On 8/4/22 5:47 PM, GNC mailinglist wrote: Hi,Im new to GnuCash but, yep, I was

Re: [GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

Thank you for sharing. I do my backups with PS as well but just do a once daily run and check the file hash for changes. If it's changed then copy. On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 6:47 PM GNC mailinglist wrote: > Hi,Im new to GnuCash but, yep, I was disappointed by the multiple > backup and log

[GNC] Backup files in another folder – solution for Windows

Hi,Im new to GnuCash but, yep, I was disappointed by the multiple backup and log files cluttering the directory where the main budget file is stored. Ive searched and found out nobody even made a workaround. So I wrote a Powershell (Windows) script watching folder for new files and moving

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

FYI, I have successfully used EncFS and Cryptomator to store encrypted Gnucash data on a Dropbox-like sync service. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

Op donderdag 14 mei 2020 01:01:13 CEST schreef flywire: > - GnuPG may well offer better security but it's not as turnkey I agree with the essence of Stephen's reply: gnucash does accounting. If you need a layer of encryption to protect that, you'll have to find a solution that supplements it.

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

Simply put: - I'm not the one using it - it's to prevent casually or accidentally displaying the data - considering the external value of personal cashbook data this very accessible process kindly provided by a community member seems fit-for-purpose - GnuPG may well offer better security but it's

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

Encryption is very personal and also very hard to get right.  1.  Personal.  You might prefer a commercial product (PGP) while I prefer open source (GnuPG). 2.  Hard.  Simply XOR and many short-bit keys are now easily breakable.  Even those who create methods (two-fish, RSA, etc) make mistakes

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

Er ... no encryption. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Can_you_please_add_a_password_feature.3F ...[No] The actual problem is access to personal data on a work supplied computer. An optional program based backup is more appropriate. GnuCash won't install but thankfully there is a portable

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

GnuCash already has an option in the user preferences for the XML data file to be stored in compressed form (zipped) on the hard disk. It is automatically zipped and unzipped by gnucash in that case. It may be the default but I'm less sure about that. Just copy it to a backup location as

Re: [GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

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[GNC] Backup to encrypted 7zip file

Hmm, old idea apparently. GnuCash is launched in Windows from a batch file to it seems to integrate well. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:

Re: [GNC] Backup Module

Wait! EMACS already supports double-entry bookkeeping. :-) https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryFinancial On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:28 PM Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM,

Re: [GNC] Backup Module

On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: >> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the >> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is >> commonly found in some programs?   Backing up to the

Re: [GNC] Backup Module

As Michael notes, there is more than just a data file. Preferences are stored separately as are saved report configurations, and any interface customizations. (such as if one uses a custom CSS file) And they aren’t just stored in separate files, they are also in different directories. Better

Re: [GNC] Backup Module

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > a special process to back up gnucash data is redundant. While I agree that adding this feature to the application would be a poor idea, I do see the point. I back up my hard drive to an external

Re: [GNC] Backup Module

On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a disc or

[GNC] Backup Module

Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 12:09:22 GMT Finbar Mahon wrote: > Well, I hope I understood all that. > > I did a save as in a new folder called GNU FEB 12 2019, >Saved all the > open accounts, >closed them, >quit and then reopened GNUcash. > > Voila, afaics, a file opened called GNU FEB12

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Well, I hope I understood all that. I did a save as in a new folder called GNU FEB 12 2019, >Saved all the open accounts, >closed them, >quit and then reopened GNUcash. Voila, afaics, a file opened called GNU FEB12 2019.gnucash and it contains the last transactions, so far so good. Just

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Yes, if you just launch GnuCash from its launcher it will open the last file you had open when you did a ’Save’ and ‘Quit’. But apparently, you intentionally at one point opened a backup file instead of the current working file, twice. (each time a different backup file) You normally do *not*

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Hi Finbar. Comments in-line below... On Monday, 11 February 2019 13:24:32 GMT Finbar Mahon wrote: > Wow, this is getting (more) complicated - > > You said - > > [When Gnucash starts, it *normally* opens the file that was open when > you shutdown last time around, > > so it is fairly easy to

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

I can't see the images you presumable posted for some reason, but I suspect what happened was that some time ago you, for some reason, opened one of the backup files (so whatever.gnucash.longdatestring.gnucash) and didn't then re-open or save as the original file name. Ever since then you have

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Wow, this is getting (more) complicated - You said - [When Gnucash starts, it *normally* opens the file that was open when you shutdown last time around, so it is fairly easy to get the wrong one by mistake if you've been digging in the folder.] I just booted up GNUcash without any

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

On Monday, 11 February 2019 10:35:30 GMT you wrote: > OK, thanks. So, it is 'normal' to be using it? > No, you risk data loss at the point of opening the backup. let me clarify. Your data file is called (for example) "mybooks.gnucash" All timestamps are made up (but plausible) you enter a

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

OK, thanks. So, it is 'normal' to be using it? Finbar On 11/02/2019 10:28, Maf. King wrote: On Monday, 11 February 2019 09:10:30 GMT Finbar Mahon wrote: that I was working on another backup. I don't recall making one specifically but it was probably part of a 'general' HD backup. However, I

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

On Monday, 11 February 2019 09:10:30 GMT Finbar Mahon wrote: > that I was working on another backup. I don't recall making one > specifically but it was probably part of a 'general' HD backup. However, > I have no idea how or when I restored it, if I ever did, Finbar, re-read the GC info

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Yes, I appreciate the comment. In my original post I mentioned that I was testing out an app called backblaze, an automatic backup to the the cloud. I asked where and how I would find the GNU backups, since the folder where GNU stuff is saved is full of files, and would have been backed up by

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

I don’t know. What is backblaze? Based on the info in the FAQ to which I referred, it appears that on Feb 8, 2019, you opened a backup copy of “GNU 5 Feb 2018”, which itself was made on March 5, 2018, made some changes, and saved from that backup. I don’t know your workflow or immediate

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Thanks for that, I probably did, but not (yet) in backblaze, does that matter? Finbar On 09/02/2019 12:59, D wrote: That file name indicates that you opened, and saved, a backup of your main data file. You might not have intended to do this. See

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

That file name indicates that you opened, and saved, a backup of your main data file. You might not have intended to do this. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_is_my_file_name_getting_longer_and_longer.3F David On February 9, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Finbar Mahon wrote: Thanks, I read

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Thanks, I read the guide and was a bit confused when backblaze showed the most recent save was yesterday at 3.55pm but with two dates/times of - GNU 5 Feb 2018 .gnucash.20180305171639.gnucash.20190208155508.gnucash<< Is the second date from the left [20180305171639] the date the file was

Re: [GNC] Backup recovery

Finbar, The directory with your data file will also contain log files and backup files. See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html for details David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html

[GNC] Backup recovery

Hi, I know this has been asked before and I have read some of the the threads, however... I am trying out Backblaze, the continuous backup to the cloud service. I wanted to check if my files were recoverable and I found - and more, all dated the day before yesterday, when I did the

Re: [GNC] Backup

I fixed your slashes in several places. Anything else? Why don’t you get your own wiki account? Regards, Adrien > On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Wm via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 01/11/2018 09:27, Geert Janssens wrote: >> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 17:09:27 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-user:

Re: [GNC] Backup

So because Liinux does not use a backslash, that is erroneous? On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:15 PM Wm via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > On 01/11/2018 09:27, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 17:09:27 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-user: > >> On 31/10/2018 01:24, D

Re: [GNC] Backup

that is not a constructive comment. David C On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:00 PM Wm wrote: > On 01/11/2018 09:19, Colin Law wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:23, Wm via gnucash-user > > wrote: > >> > >> On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: > >>> Check out

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 01/11/2018 16:40, Ronal B Morse wrote: I don't see any reason to change the Wiki. People who already have a backup plan in place know what they need to do. So long as no-one is ever allowed to say "I followed your instructions and lost my data" I agree. I am waving and saying, "I have

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 01/11/2018 09:27, Geert Janssens wrote: Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 17:09:27 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-user: On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup You should not point people to incorrect and misleading links What's misleading

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 01/11/2018 09:19, Colin Law wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:23, Wm via gnucash-user wrote: On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup You should not point people to incorrect and misleading links Please point out the errors so it can

Re: [GNC] Backup

I don't see any reason to change the Wiki. People who already have a backup plan in place know what they need to do. RBM On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 08:48 -0500, David Cousens wrote: > Wm, > > What is incorrect or misleading about the Wiki backup > page? It points out > the necessity to have an

Re: [GNC] Backup

Wm, What is incorrect or misleading about the Wiki backup page? It points out the necessity to have an adequate backup strategy in place outside the inbuilt backups which only protect against file write problems. It is really outside the scope of GnuCash to specify what that strategy should be.

Re: [GNC] Backup

Wm, I know I am putting myself out here to get royally flamed by you, but... I call BS. You’re trolling here. First off, IT’S A WIKI. YOU of all people should know what that means: volunteers write/edit that content, and OTHER volunteers (read: YOU) can edit those pages to make them

Re: [GNC] Backup

Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 17:09:27 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-user: > On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: > > Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup > > You should not point people to incorrect and misleading links What's misleading about that link ? I have just read it and

Re: [GNC] Backup

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:23, Wm via gnucash-user wrote: > > On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: > > Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup > > You should not point people to incorrect and misleading links Please point out the errors so it can be corrected. Colin > -- > Wm >

Re: [GNC] Backup

Wm, If you think that link contains incorrect and misleading information, why don't you contact the developers and help them correct it. David C On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:22 AM Wm via gnucash-user wrote: > On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: > > Check out

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 31/10/2018 01:24, D via gnucash-user wrote: Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup You should not point people to incorrect and misleading links -- Wm ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription

Re: [GNC] Backup

On 31/10/2018 00:52, Bob Hammons wrote: I have been using Gnucash since the first of the year. The data files are in a directory named gnucash and it save a lot of backups. I am using Windows 10. I open filer and control c the days files, sometimes as high as 20, and paste them to a thumb

Re: [GNC] Backup

Check out https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup HTH, David On October 31, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Bob Hammons wrote: I have been using Gnucash since the first of the year. The data files are in a directory named gnucash and it save a lot of backups. I am using Windows 10. I open filer and control

[GNC] Backup

I have been using Gnucash since the first of the year. The data files are in a directory named gnucash and it save a lot of backups. I am using Windows 10. I open filer and control c the days files, sometimes as high as 20, and paste them to a thumb drive for backup. Is this all I need to

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

Was this the order of operations? #1 Upgrade/Install new OS version #2 Restore backup #3 Install new version of GnuCash If #2 happened before #3, perhaps the GnuCash install is overwriting the restored .gnucash folder with a fresh copy. Does restoring just that folder again from the backup

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

-All home folders (hidden or not) were saved and then then restored... -Same behavior even if the new installation is the same gnucash version e.g. Fedora 27 to Fedora 27 2018-05-16 18:00 GMT+03:00 Nikos Charonitakis : > Hi All > I have recently made a back of my home directory

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

Since Firefox stores user prefs in $HOME/.mozilla, I’d be surprised if .gnucash didn’t get backed up also, unless the OP used a custom command and .mozilla was specifically included and .gnucash wasn’t. But if this were some sort of backup app and it was set to backup hidden files, then

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

Op woensdag 16 mei 2018 17:00:19 CEST schreef Nikos Charonitakis: > Hi All > I have recently made a back of my home directory on a fedora 27 pc > and then i restored it to a new installation on fedora 28. I was > expecting to open Gnucash and continue working on my latest Gnucash > file and also

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

Fedora version 28 installs Gnucash 3.0.1.something if you use the version in the Fedora 28 repository.  Not sure which version is in the Fedora 27 repo, but I'll wager it's one of the 2.XX releases. RBM On 05/16/2018 09:00 AM, Nikos Charonitakis wrote: Hi All I have recently made a back of

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

As a long time Linux user and having used GnuCash for several years I can tell you that your GnuCash settings are in a hidden file in your home directory: ~/.gnucash You didn't say how you made your backup so, as David asked, did you back up your hidden files. If, for example, you used `tar`

Re: [GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

I am not an expert on Linux, so do not quote me here. I think that GnuCash puts the settings in a hidden folder under your user directory. Does your backup program also back up the hidden folders? David C On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Nikos Charonitakis wrote: > Hi All

[GNC] Backup and restore GnuCash Settings

Hi All I have recently made a back of my home directory on a fedora 27 pc and then i restored it to a new installation on fedora 28. I was expecting to open Gnucash and continue working on my latest Gnucash file and also have all my settings in place but this was not the case. Running Gnucash on