Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On 23/08/2017 18:11, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote: A little more reading. [1]https://www.cchdaily.co.uk/lords-probe-software-companies-lack-readiness-m aking-tax-digital Please note that this link is mostly outdated, espcially the deadlines mentioned are not any more applicable. The

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

A little more reading. https://www.cchdaily.co.uk/lords-probe-software-companies-lack-readiness-making-tax-digital and https://github.com/hmrc ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

I see what you mean now... this seems similar to the copyright related laws in China (which unfortunatelly make GPL'd software in a state similar to public domain), there was a debate about this in libreplanet-discuss

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

As far as I am aware, there shouldn't be any licensing issues on the FOSS side about including a government-granted key in the distribution. There are severe technical issues, which may impact licensing, in keeping the government-granted key a secret. Since the last bit is the important part, as

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

Just to make usre that I'm clear: My last message about keeping *my* mouth closed was a way to tell that *I* won't comment on that for now because I'd still have to study and gather proof. That is: That message was not meant to be harsh towards someone. I hope this helps. :)

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 11:19:23AM -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > I don't know if there's a licensing issue or not in regards to having a > file include/inclusion with such key, so I'll just keep my mouth closed > for now on that matter. :) I am sure that many will not be so coy and keep

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

I don't know if there's a licensing issue or not in regards to having a file include/inclusion with such key, so I'll just keep my mouth closed for now on that matter. :) Perhaps, though, instead of requiring a file include/inclusion that would theoretically have the key, perhaps one could make

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:24:19 BST Alain Williams wrote: > > Out of curiosity, who wants MTD? > > I don't. It will involve me in a lot of extra work that adds nothing to my > business. > > I am happy with doing VAT on-line -- just login to HMRC web site, enter a > few numbers into a web

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 02:13:48PM -0500, GWB wrote: > But who knows. I'm averse to having information stored in a digital > format on government servers because it will eventually be hacked, > stolen, or otherwise used for something other than the original and > limited intention (you can pick

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On 31 July 2017 at 13:55, Derek Atkins said: > Mike, > > mike.m...@gmx.net writes: > > >[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for > >quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still > >exist. I could not find any way how to add another

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

This reminds me of an earlier question from a user in Sweden. Apparently governments (Sweden in that case, the UK in this one) are getting into the habit of specifying not only acceptable tax software but also accounting software. The UK has not yet required businesses of a certain size to use

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

Mike, mike.m...@gmx.net writes: >[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for >quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still exist. >I could not find any way how to add another comment to a given thread, >despite having started the thread

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

A shared library would even better imo. Similar to what aqbanking does for online bank communications. That would allow for easier integration with gnucash and even other open source applications that wish to interact with HMRC. Regards, Geert Alain Williams schreef op 27

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:51:27PM +0100, Colin Law wrote: > I don't think it is about stopping fiddling, I think it is about > saving money. If everything is done digitally by us then there is less > for government employees to do, so cost saving. But tax has had to be submitted digitally for a

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 27 July 2017 at 16:31, Alain Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:22:40AM -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote: > >> SO (in my opinion, not a UK citizen, other disclaimers applicable, etc.) >> it's not a mathematical problem, it's a political one. > > +1 > > Which comes back

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:22:40AM -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote: > SO (in my opinion, not a UK citizen, other disclaimers applicable, etc.) > it's not a mathematical problem, it's a political one. +1 Which comes back to the question: what it MTD really about ? I suspect that they want a 'closed

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) < drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote: > On 25 July 2017 at 17:54, David Goodenough < > david.goodeno...@linkchoose.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > There is a problem. They want to assign a secret ID to each piece of > > software

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 12:52:41AM +, Buddha Buck wrote: > GnuCash does not currently (to my knowledge) support any > jurisdiction-specify tax policy or reporting requirements. To do so for one > would imply that it should do so for all, and that is a maintenance > nightmare. As such, I think

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Buddha Buck wrote: > > GnuCash does not currently (to my knowledge) support any > jurisdiction-specify tax policy or reporting requirements. To do so for one > would imply that it should do so for all, and that is a maintenance >

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 6:53 PM wrote: > >The need for a secret code to identify approved software was mentioned. >Secret or not, why is it against OpenSource ideals when HMRC wants to >assure that only software with the right capabilities can be used? > One of

For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still exist. I could not find any way how to add another comment to a given thread, despite having started the thread myself. This contribution may well

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 25 July 2017 at 17:54, David Goodenough < david.goodeno...@linkchoose.co.uk> wrote: > > There is a problem. They want to assign a secret ID to each piece of > software > and so if you say it is open source they then refuse to allocate an ID as > it > will not be secret. I have raised this

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 25 July 2017 at 15:21, John Ralls wrote: > > > > > https://hmrcdigital.blog.gov.uk/2016/07/14/talking-openly-at > -open-source-16/ > > That talk is about how much HMRC enjoys using software that they don’t > have to pay for and how they’ve published some of their web code

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:40 AM, Mike Evans wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700 > John Ralls wrote: > >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote: >>> >>> In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved >>>

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:43:05 BST Christopher Lam wrote: > I'd be quite keen to know processes for submitting VAT returns. I've never > registered for VAT while I was UK resident but I'm submitting Australian > GST statements quarterly. > I'm enjoying learning scheme and I feel I will be able

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 25 July 2017 at 11:43, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > On 25 July 2017 at 05:39, John Ralls wrote: > ... > If there's no desire/developer time to support this, then its not worth > giving it any more consideration. But IF

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 25 July 2017 at 05:39, John Ralls wrote: > > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote: > > > > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved > > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to > > HMRC. > >

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On 25 July 2017 at 1:01, mike.m...@gmx.net said: >In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved >accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to >HMRC. The project is known as Making Tax Digital or MTD No exact >details or requirements to

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700 John Ralls wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote: > > > > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved > > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to > > HMRC.

Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700 John Ralls wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote: > > > > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved > > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to > > HMRC.

For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax Digital ?

In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to HMRC. The project is known as Making Tax Digital or MTD No exact details or requirements to softwaremakers have been published, but will