RE: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[htyber]

I have examined the gnucash.trace file and find one critical error that's
probably causing the crash. Any ideas on how I might address this problem? 

* 21:47:50  WARN  Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute
child process (No such file or directory) 
* 21:48:06  CRIT  g_file_test: assertion 'filename != NULL' failed 
* 21:48:10  WARN  invalid uninstantiatable type '(NULL)' in
cast to 'QofInstance'

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+htyber=comcast@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
hty...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 1:02 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

Gnucash 3.0 on Windows 10 crashes on opening my account file. The account
file was last saved in gnucash 2.6.19 and opens flawlessly in that version.
When I start gnucash 3.0 it briefly shows my list of accounts and then I get
the Windows message that the application has crashed.

I am able to create a file in 3.0. I also was able to import the chart of
accounts in 3.0. I have tried running the program in Admin mode also. No
luck with my original data file.

I have seen this reported under bug 782144. I suspect some data in the file
might be causing trouble. The only entries that I have that seem out of the
ordinary is an "imbalance account" that I use to track business auto
mileage. 

Appreciate any help on upgrading to 3.0.


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Re: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[Cojacket]

I have examined the gnucash.trace file and find one critical error that's
probably causing the crash. Any ideas on how I might address this problem?

* 21:47:50  WARN  Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute
child process (No such file or directory)
* 21:48:06  CRIT  g_file_test: assertion 'filename != NULL' failed
* 21:48:10  WARN  invalid uninstantiatable type '(NULL)' in
cast to 'QofInstance'





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Re: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Steve Parry  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone (especially Admins).
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all 
> emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like 
> "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of 
> the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the 
> option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder.
> 
> 
> 
> Just a thought!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all your great work

I don’t know diddley about MailMan configuration, but I have a procmail rule 
that works perfectly, and has for many years:

* ^TO_gnucash-user@(lists\.)?gnucash\.org
.gnucash-user/

I use a similar rule for a number of mailing lists, driven by both MailMan and 
Google Groups.

Regards,
John Ralls

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RE: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Steve Parry]

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for the email responses. As I said, it was just a thought!  Seems there 
is no support for this idea so I’ll withdraw it

 

Have a great weekend!

 

Cheers

…Steve

 

 

From: Steve Parry  
Sent: Friday, 6 April 2018 11:09
To: 'Gnucash Users' 
Cc: spa...@vidar.com.au
Subject: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

 

Hi everyone (especially Admins).

 

Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all 
emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like "[GNC] 
This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of the 
mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the option 
to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder.

 

Just a thought!

 

Thanks for all your great work

Cheers

...Steve

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Re: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Adrien Monteleone]

I do the same. I filter based on sender into it’s own folder and I only see 
unread messages, which I can easily toggle. (in conversation view, so the 
entire thread is there to read if desired)

If that’s not enough, the particular mail client in question might even be able 
to set an action on a filter that adds the desired prefix to the subject, flags 
it, etc.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 8:13 PM, R. Victor Klassen  wrote:
> 
> Does your mail client not allow you to filter by the presence of gnucash-user 
> as any recipient?  Works for me.
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Steve Parry  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone (especially Admins).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all 
>> emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like 
>> "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of 
>> the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the 
>> option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just a thought!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for all your great work
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> ...Steve
>> 
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Re: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Dave H]

Personally I find that sort of stuff distracting especially as there are
multiple GNC-XXX lists.  There is plenty in the current headers to filter
on if I could be bothered doing that and I get 1-200 emails most days :-)

Just my .02 worth.

Cheers Dave H.

On 6 April 2018 at 11:08, Steve Parry  wrote:

> Hi everyone (especially Admins).
>
>
>
> Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to
> all emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject
> like "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster
> identification of the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when
> eye scanning and the option to have a mail client rule to filter them into
> a separate folder.
>
>
>
> Just a thought!
>
>
>
> Thanks for all your great work
>
> Cheers
>
> ...Steve
>
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Re: Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[R. Victor Klassen]

Does your mail client not allow you to filter by the presence of gnucash-user 
as any recipient?  Works for me.

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Steve Parry  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone (especially Admins).
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all 
> emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like 
> "[GNC] This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of 
> the mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the 
> option to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder.
> 
> 
> 
> Just a thought!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all your great work
> 
> Cheers
> 
> ...Steve
> 
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Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

[Steve Parry]

Hi everyone (especially Admins).

 

Just wondering if you can add an automatic Subject Prefix in MailMan to all 
emails from this list (eg [GNC]) so that list emails have a subject like "[GNC] 
This is a sample Subject". This will enable faster identification of the 
mailing list emails (of which there are many) when eye scanning and the option 
to have a mail client rule to filter them into a separate folder.

 

Just a thought!

 

Thanks for all your great work

Cheers

...Steve

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Re: Sending data to my accountant

[Nelson Handcock]

Fair enough. It's just that in my experience the reports that GNucash
generate are normally saved a PDF files, so you can't easily cut and paste
information from them to use in a spreadsheet.



Thanks & Regards,

Nelson Handcock
0409 149919

http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Apr 2018, Nelson Handcock wrote:
>
> Most accountants that are familiar with computer-based accounting systems
>> should have little trouble figuring out how to get the information they
>> need from a copy of your file
>>
>
>   It all depends on where you live. Here in Oregon accountants must use
> proprietary tax preparation software (all requiring Microsoft, of course).
>
>   I send my accountant the balance sheet and income statement as PDF
> attachments to an e-mail message for business taxes. For personal I add the
> trial balance report so she can extract deductible expenses more easily.
> We've been doing this for years.
>
> Rich
>
>
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Re: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

[Gregory Forster]

I still use version 2.4.13.  It has been the least buggiest for me.

Greg


On 4/4/2018 9:55 AM, Wes Shank wrote:

I have attempted to download the new stable release and Windows defender halts 
the download and indicates the file has a virus. Can someone shed some light on 
that?

Wes Shank

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-announce  On 
Behalf Of John Ralls
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 4:18 PM
To: Gnucash-User 
Cc: gnucash-devel ; gnucash-annou...@gnucash.org
Subject: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

GnuCash 3.0 released

The GnuCash development team proudly announces GnuCash 3.0, the first release 
in our new 3.x stable series.
New Features for Users:

 The headline item for this release is that GnuCash now uses the Gtk+-3.0 
Toolkit and the WebKit2Gtk API. This change was forced on us by some major 
Linux distributions dropping support for the WebKit1 API. Unfortunately the 
Webkit project doesn't support Microsoft Windows so that platform will continue 
to use the WebKit1 API, though with Gtk3. We've selected Gtk+-3.14.0 as the 
minimum version because it fully supports CSS theming.
 New editors to remove outdated or incorrect match data from the import 
maps, a new user interfacs for managing files associated with transactions, an 
improved facility for removing old prices from the price database, and a way to 
remove deleted files from the history list in the file menu.
 New Reports: A Reconciliation Report based on the Transaction Report,a 
Income GST Report, and a Cashflow Barchart report.
 A new CSV importer largely rewritten in C++, adding new features including 
the ability to re-import CSV files exported from GnuCash, along with a separate 
CSV price importer.
 A new preference panel for the Alphavantage API key so that Finance::Quote 
users need not edit /etc/gnucash/environment. We've removed all references to 
the various Yahoo! quote sources and made Alphavantage the default.
 Data file directories are now located appropriately to the operating 
system's conventions by default:
 Windows: CSIDL_APPDATA/Gnucash
 MacOS: $HOME/Application Support/Gnucash
 Linux: $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnucash (or the default $HOME/.config/gnucash)
 It's still possible to overried with the environment variable 
GNC_DOC_PATH, which replaces GNC_DOT_DIR in earlier versions of GnuCash.
 Accounts in the Bayes import map are now linked by GUID instead of names 
so that the matcher won't have to be retrained if you rename an account. The 
Bayesian import maps are also stored in a flatter structure to allow faster 
access, especially in SQL. These changes mean that if you have Bayesian mapping 
data, once converted your database will be loadable only by GnuCash 2.6.20 and 
later.
 MySQL and SQLite3 date storage has changed a bit. Once converted, MySQL 
and SQLite3 database will be loadable only by GnuCash 2.6.19 and later.
 Numerics are rewritten to allow for more significant digits. The old 
6-digit-maximum fraction is now 9-digits, and prices may have up to 18 digit 
precision.
 Chart Reports appearance is improved, including more modern chart colours 
as suggested by http://clrs.cc/.
 Transaction Report improvements, including regular expression filtering and many 
more options and features including a "Subtotal Summary Grid" The subtotal 
summary-grid will tabulate subtotals - prime-sortkey vertically, sec-sortkey 
horizontally. For example, with prime-sortkey = accounts, sec-sortkey = date, 
sec-subtotal = monthly will produce a monthly time series table.
 The About dialog box layout is improved and now includes the detected 
Finance::Quote version.
 GnuCash will always build the locale-specific tax modules. This was 
optional when building with autotools and never enabled when building with 
cmake. Note that the only supported tax locales are en_US and de_DE.
 On Macs the Reconcile Window's menu moved to the menubar.
 GnuCash no longer supports Guile-1.8 and now does support Guile-2.2

New Features for Developers:

 Several parts of the engine and the SQL backend are rewritten in C++, an 
effort that will continue in the next development cycle. KVP is now private to 
libgncmod-engine and accessible outside via qof_instance_set and 
qof_instance_get. KVP and GUID are reimplemnted in C++ using boost::variant and 
boost::UUID respectively.
 C++ unit tests require GoogleTest. While it's possible to use prebuilt 
libgtest and libgmock on some distros, building static libraries for GnuCash is 
preferred. It may be necessary to provide the paths to the googletest and 
googlemock source with CMake parameters GTEST_ROOT and GMOCK_ROOT respectively.
 The date implementation is migrated to boost::date-time, replacing a Glib 
GDateTime implementation. This makes the earliest date recordable 1 January 
1400CE instead of 1 

Re: Sending data to my accountant

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2018, Nelson Handcock wrote:


Most accountants that are familiar with computer-based accounting systems
should have little trouble figuring out how to get the information they
need from a copy of your file


  It all depends on where you live. Here in Oregon accountants must use
proprietary tax preparation software (all requiring Microsoft, of course).

  I send my accountant the balance sheet and income statement as PDF
attachments to an e-mail message for business taxes. For personal I add the
trial balance report so she can extract deductible expenses more easily.
We've been doing this for years.

Rich

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Re: Sending data to my accountant

[Nelson Handcock]

The gnucash platform is free to download and install, so when my accountant
had the same issue I suggested he installed gnucash, and then I just sent
him a copy of my gnucash file.

Most accountants that are familiar with computer-based accounting systems
should have little trouble figuring out how to get the information they
need from a copy of your file

Hope this helps.


Thanks & Regards,

Nelson Handcock
0409 149919

http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Op donderdag 5 april 2018 11:29:09 CEST schreef Roache Ian:
> > What is the best way to get my gnucash data to my accountant for him to
> > check and prepare my tax return? Is there a way I can do this if he
> doesn’t
> > have the gnucash platform?
>
> The best way is probably to generate the reports your accountant requires
> and
> save/print them for your accountant.
>
> The option are to Export as pdf, or copy the report (which is in html) to
> excel or libreoffice calc where you can post-process the data before
> sending
> it to your accountant.
>
> Geert
>
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Re: Gnucash 3.0 will not go beyond splash screen

[David Carlson]

Well, it's not supposed to be that slow.  The upgrades in Release 3.0 are
fairly major and it was not expected to run so slow.  Furure releases will
be much better.

David C

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Bill Starrs  wrote:

> Thanks for the info,
>
> yes, it finally opened up.  Some kind of message indicating that the
> database is being converted would be nice to consider in the future.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 02:01:37PM -0500, David Carlson wrote:
>
>> If you have a very large database check recent bug reports.  I think that
>> I
>> saw one where the first time it takes several hours to update the database
>> to work with release 3.0.  Two hours may not be enough time.
>>
>> David C
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bill Starrs 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I upgraded to 3.0 yesterday on Archlinux.  I have been using MariaDB for
>>> storage for a few years.
>>>
>>> I have tried a few times to launch the new GnuCash.  It finds
>>> Finance:Quote, prompts me for the database user and password, then just
>>> hangs at the splash screen.
>>>
>>> Launching from the terminal I get no messages or output of any kind,
>>> waited about 2 hours before killing the process last time.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill Starrs
>>>
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Re: Gnucash 3.0 Build error

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:34 PM, DaveC49  wrote:
> 
> After following the build instructions 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building#Ubuntu
>   
> I have checked glib-2.0 and libglib2.0 are installed
> 
> I received the following errors when building using cmake (v 3.5.1) on Linux
> MInt 18.3 :
> 
> /$ cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local/bin/gnucash-cmake -D
> WITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D WITH_OFX=ON ../gnucash
> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:5 (file):
>  file problem creating directory: /glib-2.0/schemas
> 
> 
> -- Performing Test have_mod_mask
> -- Performing Test have_mod_mask - Failed
> CMake Error at gnome/CMakeLists.txt:59 (gnc_add_swig_guile_command):
>  Unknown CMake command "gnc_add_swig_guile_command".
> 
> 
> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>  No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
> 
>cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.5)
> 
>  should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be
> lower
>  if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>  information run "cmake --help-policy CMP".
> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
> 
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> See also
> "/home/david/Applications/gnucash-3.0/build-cmake/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> See also
> "/home/david/Applications/gnucash-3.0/build-cmake/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log"./
> 
> Any ideas?

Rob Gowin saw your mistake and pointed it out in gnucash-devel, a better place 
to discuss build problems:

The error is "cmake  ../gnucash". You want just "cmake  .." 
to get the root CMakeLists.txt instead of the CMakeLists.txt in the "gnucash" 
subdirectory.

He recommends creating your build directory completely outside of the source 
tree as a way to avoid making this mistake.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: What does your Summary Bar say in Gnucash-3.0? Mine is rude

[lj]

Geert Janssens wrote:

...
I'm running Fedora 27. Can't reproduce either. I see the full text.


OK, thanks. So nobody else sees this, on Linux either.

Could it be the Gtk+3 version? I'm using Gtk+3 3.18.9 on Slackware 14.2. I 
also have access to Xubuntu 16.04.04 LTS and it seems to also have gtk-3 3.18.9.


Just to see what would happen, I changed window-main-summarybar.c, function 
gnc_main_window_summary_new(), the call to gtk_cell_renderer_set_fixed_size, 
the width parameter from 50 to 80. Then I see "Net Assets:", and "Profits:" in 
the summary bar, but the numbers are still missing or cut off. So there's 
something going on here, but I have no idea what, or why only I have this problem.



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Re: Gnucash 3.0 will not go beyond splash screen

[Bill Starrs]

Thanks for the info,

yes, it finally opened up.  Some kind of message indicating that the
database is being converted would be nice to consider in the future.

Best regards,

Bill

On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 02:01:37PM -0500, David Carlson wrote:

If you have a very large database check recent bug reports.  I think that I
saw one where the first time it takes several hours to update the database
to work with release 3.0.  Two hours may not be enough time.

David C

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bill Starrs  wrote:


Hello,

I upgraded to 3.0 yesterday on Archlinux.  I have been using MariaDB for
storage for a few years.

I have tried a few times to launch the new GnuCash.  It finds
Finance:Quote, prompts me for the database user and password, then just
hangs at the splash screen.

Launching from the terminal I get no messages or output of any kind,
waited about 2 hours before killing the process last time.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Bill Starrs

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discover banks API?

[james]

Hello One et.al.,

Perhaps the ideas and tools in this article can help form
a structured approach to discerning your banks (hidden) API
and communications semantics ?

I just ran across this and immediately thought of gnucash.

https://blog.haschek.at/post/fc874


hth,
James
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Re: Sending data to my accountant

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 5 april 2018 11:29:09 CEST schreef Roache Ian:
> What is the best way to get my gnucash data to my accountant for him to
> check and prepare my tax return? Is there a way I can do this if he doesn’t
> have the gnucash platform?

The best way is probably to generate the reports your accountant requires and 
save/print them for your accountant.

The option are to Export as pdf, or copy the report (which is in html) to 
excel or libreoffice calc where you can post-process the data before sending 
it to your accountant.

Geert


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Re: What does your Summary Bar say in Gnucash-3.0? Mine is rude

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 4 april 2018 01:59:42 CEST schreef lj:
> Thanks everyone for the replies. Unless I missed something, nobody else is
> seeing it, but everyone else who reported is running Windows or Mac. No
> other Linux users reported seeing or not seeing the issue.
> 
> I did a little digging (dangerous when you don't really know what you are
> doing) and I see calls like gtk_cell_rendered_set_fixed_size for the summary
> window with a 'width' parameter of 50. The truncation I'm seeing "Net Ass"
> is exactly 50 pixels wide (as measured with Gimp).

I'm running Fedora 27. Can't reproduce either. I see the full text.

I also tried setting a larger global default font, just to check whether we're 
counting in fixed pixel widths, but even then I still properly see the full 
text.

Geert


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gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[htyber]

Gnucash 3.0 on Windows 10 crashes on opening my account file. The account
file was last saved in gnucash 2.6.19 and opens flawlessly in that version.
When I start gnucash 3.0 it briefly shows my list of accounts and then I get
the Windows message that the application has crashed.

I am able to create a file in 3.0. I also was able to import the chart of
accounts in 3.0. I have tried running the program in Admin mode also. No
luck with my original data file.

I have seen this reported under bug 782144. I suspect some data in the file
might be causing trouble. The only entries that I have that seem out of the
ordinary is an "imbalance account" that I use to track business auto
mileage. 

Appreciate any help on upgrading to 3.0.


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Re: Gnucash 3.0 will not go beyond splash screen

[David Carlson]

If you have a very large database check recent bug reports.  I think that I
saw one where the first time it takes several hours to update the database
to work with release 3.0.  Two hours may not be enough time.

David C

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bill Starrs  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I upgraded to 3.0 yesterday on Archlinux.  I have been using MariaDB for
> storage for a few years.
>
> I have tried a few times to launch the new GnuCash.  It finds
> Finance:Quote, prompts me for the database user and password, then just
> hangs at the splash screen.
>
> Launching from the terminal I get no messages or output of any kind,
> waited about 2 hours before killing the process last time.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Starrs
>
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Re: Fast reactions to 2.7.8

[Geert Janssens]

Op dinsdag 3 april 2018 18:33:29 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> Now that I’ve got 3.0 properly up and running, I see the Save and Close
> buttons have labels on the right side, but no others do.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien

These buttons are marked differently in the source code ('important' or 
something -- I can't access the sources right now). Gtk treats such buttons 
differently in that the labels will always be shown.

And yes, the split button show its label also.

Geert


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Gnucash 3.0 will not go beyond splash screen

[Bill Starrs]

Hello,

I upgraded to 3.0 yesterday on Archlinux.  I have been using MariaDB for
storage for a few years.

I have tried a few times to launch the new GnuCash.  It finds
Finance:Quote, prompts me for the database user and password, then just
hangs at the splash screen.

Launching from the terminal I get no messages or output of any kind,
waited about 2 hours before killing the process last time.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Bill Starrs

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Re: Unrealized loss

[David Carlson]

Alain, if you opened a bug report, could you provide a link to it so we can
follow it there?

David c

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:45 AM, David Carlson 
wrote:

> Alain, Adrian and David T
>
> I also missed the comment that Alain was purchasing and selling stock.  He
> goes on to state that the unrealized gains are not what he thinks they
> should be, but without purchase price (cost basis) and sales details for an
> example round trip security purchase and sale, it is impossible to
> determine if GnuCash has been given bad data or if there is a bug.  We all
> know that GnuCash only tracks the value within the security account and
> does not account for commissions and fees (which do not affect the 'before
> expenses' gain or loss on the actual security shares) if they are entered
> separately.  Unrealized gain will not go to zero unless all shares have
> been sold and the value of the respective security accounts have also been
> reduced to zero.
>
> I personally think that the key is to find a way to bring each security
> account to a value of zero euros (as seen in the chart of accounts
> Present(Euros) and Balance columns) when the number of shares goes to zero.
> I use a separate spreadsheet to help me with that.  Before the last share
> is sold, there will be an unrealized gain or loss based on whatever numbers
> are in the data and how GnuCash has been told to interpret them.
>
> Also, as I mentioned in another message, it would be worthwhile to check
> for hidden accounts or other residual transactions or splits from any old
> typos that did not get completely corrected.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Apologies David,
>>
>> Somehow after reading over his posts several times, I still missed that.
>> And seeing that now, makes my questions moot or answered.
>>
>> So I’m more confidant to say, “Not a bug.”
>>
>> The gain/loss calculation is being done on the various prices from
>> whatever account he is using to buy/sell shares in. I’d suspect if he
>> deletes the prices from the db, the report is still going to pull the
>> relevant price(s) based on the commodity setting from the math in the
>> transaction. If he bought shares at a lower price than he did previously, I
>> would expect a sane response by GnuCash would be to report an unrealized
>> loss.
>>
>> This *might* be related to what we discovered in Feb while looking at the
>> Trial Balance report.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> > On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:24 AM, David T.  wrote:
>> >
>> > I surmise from the OP that there ARE buy/sell transactions, based on
>> the comment, "I do not enter share values into GC until the day I sell
>> them," which was made early in the thread.
>> >
>> > I agree that details are lacking, and I apologize for the
>> miscommunication regarding bugs. As I don't fully understand what a True
>> Accountant believes is supposed to happen in those situations, I'm at a
>> loss to determine whether gnucash is getting it right or wrong.
>> >
>> > David T
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:28, Adrien Monteleone
>> >  wrote:
>> > I certainly didn’t advocate filing a bug on this. I think more
>> sleuthing and answers are needed.
>> >
>> > Yes, I understand the db gets an entry on a buy/sell transaction, but
>> if you don’t have buy or sell transactions?...
>> >
>> > And to be clear, those aren’t ‘automatically downloaded.’ They are the
>> result of the transaction math.(perhaps the OP wasn’t expecting them to
>> appear, but they really have to if the account is to be kept correct and
>> reports work out properly, as you noted) We’re not talking about GC
>> downloading new prices each day/month/week without being told to do so.
>> >
>> > I’m at a loss with this thread because the OP hasn’t made clear that
>> there aren’t any buy/sell transactions of anything. They claim they don’t
>> use any currency other than EUR and don’t track stocks. The trading
>> accounts could still be enabled, and a commodity added to the assets. And
>> if this occurred on more than one date, well, then certainly, there will be
>> more than one price in the db.(each one generated by GC as a result of the
>> transaction)
>> >
>> > But the OP has been silent on these questions, so it’s probably best to
>> wait till he chimes back in to continue the guessing any further.
>> >
>> > What we don’t know is:
>> >
>> > Is he seeing this unrealized gain/loss without ANY prices AT ALL in the
>> db? And without ANY other currencies other than the default book currency
>> in play?(EUR) And without ANY assets denominated in ANYTHING but EUR? And
>> without ANY stocks, funds, et cetera?
>> >
>> > Until all of those answers are ‘yes’ I don’t think there’s a bug at
>> all, but rather, either a transaction that is hard to find, or a user
>> misunderstanding.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> > > On Apr 4, 2018, at 

Re: Unrealized loss

[David Carlson]

Alain, Adrian and David T

I also missed the comment that Alain was purchasing and selling stock.  He
goes on to state that the unrealized gains are not what he thinks they
should be, but without purchase price (cost basis) and sales details for an
example round trip security purchase and sale, it is impossible to
determine if GnuCash has been given bad data or if there is a bug.  We all
know that GnuCash only tracks the value within the security account and
does not account for commissions and fees (which do not affect the 'before
expenses' gain or loss on the actual security shares) if they are entered
separately.  Unrealized gain will not go to zero unless all shares have
been sold and the value of the respective security accounts have also been
reduced to zero.

I personally think that the key is to find a way to bring each security
account to a value of zero euros (as seen in the chart of accounts
Present(Euros) and Balance columns) when the number of shares goes to zero.
I use a separate spreadsheet to help me with that.  Before the last share
is sold, there will be an unrealized gain or loss based on whatever numbers
are in the data and how GnuCash has been told to interpret them.

Also, as I mentioned in another message, it would be worthwhile to check
for hidden accounts or other residual transactions or splits from any old
typos that did not get completely corrected.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apologies David,
>
> Somehow after reading over his posts several times, I still missed that.
> And seeing that now, makes my questions moot or answered.
>
> So I’m more confidant to say, “Not a bug.”
>
> The gain/loss calculation is being done on the various prices from
> whatever account he is using to buy/sell shares in. I’d suspect if he
> deletes the prices from the db, the report is still going to pull the
> relevant price(s) based on the commodity setting from the math in the
> transaction. If he bought shares at a lower price than he did previously, I
> would expect a sane response by GnuCash would be to report an unrealized
> loss.
>
> This *might* be related to what we discovered in Feb while looking at the
> Trial Balance report.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:24 AM, David T.  wrote:
> >
> > I surmise from the OP that there ARE buy/sell transactions, based on the
> comment, "I do not enter share values into GC until the day I sell them,"
> which was made early in the thread.
> >
> > I agree that details are lacking, and I apologize for the
> miscommunication regarding bugs. As I don't fully understand what a True
> Accountant believes is supposed to happen in those situations, I'm at a
> loss to determine whether gnucash is getting it right or wrong.
> >
> > David T
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:28, Adrien Monteleone
> >  wrote:
> > I certainly didn’t advocate filing a bug on this. I think more sleuthing
> and answers are needed.
> >
> > Yes, I understand the db gets an entry on a buy/sell transaction, but if
> you don’t have buy or sell transactions?...
> >
> > And to be clear, those aren’t ‘automatically downloaded.’ They are the
> result of the transaction math.(perhaps the OP wasn’t expecting them to
> appear, but they really have to if the account is to be kept correct and
> reports work out properly, as you noted) We’re not talking about GC
> downloading new prices each day/month/week without being told to do so.
> >
> > I’m at a loss with this thread because the OP hasn’t made clear that
> there aren’t any buy/sell transactions of anything. They claim they don’t
> use any currency other than EUR and don’t track stocks. The trading
> accounts could still be enabled, and a commodity added to the assets. And
> if this occurred on more than one date, well, then certainly, there will be
> more than one price in the db.(each one generated by GC as a result of the
> transaction)
> >
> > But the OP has been silent on these questions, so it’s probably best to
> wait till he chimes back in to continue the guessing any further.
> >
> > What we don’t know is:
> >
> > Is he seeing this unrealized gain/loss without ANY prices AT ALL in the
> db? And without ANY other currencies other than the default book currency
> in play?(EUR) And without ANY assets denominated in ANYTHING but EUR? And
> without ANY stocks, funds, et cetera?
> >
> > Until all of those answers are ‘yes’ I don’t think there’s a bug at all,
> but rather, either a transaction that is hard to find, or a user
> misunderstanding.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > > On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:28 PM, David T.  wrote:
> > >
> > > Adrien,
> > >
> > > Gnucash places an entry in the price db when you create a buy or sell
> transaction.  This ensures that certain reports behave, I recall.
> > >
> > > As this issue has been discussed previously and at length, I would
> hesitate to file 

Re: GnuCash 3.0 initial observations

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Correction on the last point, I see 2.6.20 is up as of 4/2/18.

Sort of. The Mac/Intel build is still not ready, so I haven’t yet announced it, 
nor have I computed and posted the sha256 hashes to allow one to check the 
integrity of a download.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: GnuCash 3.0 initial observations

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Deva -  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Firstly, thank you all for this new and much awaited version.
>> 
>> I have just installed GC 3.0 on Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.4 and have been 
>> browsing through what’s new and what’s improved and these are observations 
>> from my initial test run…
>> 
>> 1. When I first moved from 2.6.6 to 2.6.19, I ran into an issue with average 
>> cost as a price source on my mutual fund account. See 
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368. I thought this was fixed 
>> in 3.0, but it doesn’t seem to be. Note, however, that the use case I gave 
>> in that bug report earlier has been fixed, but other investment accounts 
>> seem to have issues. Upon reviewing the account with the cost issue, only 
>> thing I can see is that when a mutual fund account has both purchases and 
>> redemptions, the balance sheet report using average cost price source 
>> doesn’t report the cost correctly. When there are only purchases, the cost 
>> is computed correctly. Is anyone else seeing this problem? I am keen on 
>> moving to 3.0 due to other features introduced in this version, but this is 
>> keeping me grounded. I can share an account report and the balance sheet 
>> report privately to whoever is interested in diagnosing this problem.
>> 
> I think that’s intended behavior of the ‘average cost’ option. (‘cost’ is 
> supposed to only look at buys, not sells, but it in fact, looks at both) You 
> probably want ‘weighted average’ instead. Read over this comment from a bug 
> report on the ‘average cost’ issue: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368#c4 
> 
> 
> This was ‘fixed’ by making ’nearest in time’ the default instead of ‘average 
> cost’.

Not quite. Read the *rest* of the bug, especially 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368#c36 
. BTW, Deva is well 
aware of that bug, he wrote comment 35.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: GnuCash 3.0 initial observations

[Adrien Monteleone]

In regards to #4 & 5, I ran that report and I don’t see any similar error 
messages. I do have foreign currency assets, but I don’t trade them or stocks 
or have any funds. (though I do have trading accounts turned on)

You’d have to investigate further.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Deva -  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Firstly, thank you all for this new and much awaited version.
>> 
>> I have just installed GC 3.0 on Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.4 and have been 
>> browsing through what’s new and what’s improved and these are observations 
>> from my initial test run…
>> 
>> 1. When I first moved from 2.6.6 to 2.6.19, I ran into an issue with average 
>> cost as a price source on my mutual fund account. See 
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368. I thought this was fixed 
>> in 3.0, but it doesn’t seem to be. Note, however, that the use case I gave 
>> in that bug report earlier has been fixed, but other investment accounts 
>> seem to have issues. Upon reviewing the account with the cost issue, only 
>> thing I can see is that when a mutual fund account has both purchases and 
>> redemptions, the balance sheet report using average cost price source 
>> doesn’t report the cost correctly. When there are only purchases, the cost 
>> is computed correctly. Is anyone else seeing this problem? I am keen on 
>> moving to 3.0 due to other features introduced in this version, but this is 
>> keeping me grounded. I can share an account report and the balance sheet 
>> report privately to whoever is interested in diagnosing this problem.
>> 
> I think that’s intended behavior of the ‘average cost’ option. (‘cost’ is 
> supposed to only look at buys, not sells, but it in fact, looks at both) You 
> probably want ‘weighted average’ instead. Read over this comment from a bug 
> report on the ‘average cost’ issue: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368#c4
> 
> This was ‘fixed’ by making ’nearest in time’ the default instead of ‘average 
> cost’.
> 
>> 2. The currency symbol (INR in this case) is printed in bold (looks that way 
>> from its appearance), which makes it look like a blob on the reports. On the 
>> main CoA page, the currency is distinctly clearer. Is there a setting to 
>> make it look like the way it appears on CoA? (see screenshot attached)
> 
> I could be wrong, but that looks like a font issue. Perhaps experiment with 
> the choices for the stylesheet. It might be a simple solution of increasing 
> the size, but finding a cleaner font might be the best route.
>> 
>> 3. One much awaited feature is the ability to import prices from a csv file. 
>> I could never get Finance::Quote to work with my India stocks and mutual 
>> funds, so I have been manually updating prices on a monthly basis. So this 
>> feature greatly helps. When I try to do a sample import of prices, I ran 
>> into an issue. My csv file has 4 columns - date (dd-mm-), ticker, price, 
>> currency. So on the import screen, I clicked on the header (of the datafile 
>> shown in a grid) and 4 options crop up to select date, commodity from, 
>> currency to and amount. But I am unable to select any of these options to 
>> designate the column as a date, amount, etc. It shows me a drop down listing 
>> 4 options for column type, but no matter what I click, nothing gets 
>> selected. On this screen, I did select the date format as d-m-y.
> 
> Based on the initial report in this older bug report: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779565, perhaps try changing the 
> delimiter and/or closing the book and trying again.
> 
>> 
>> 4. When I first came across balance sheet (eguile) report in 2.6.6, I took a 
>> liking for this report more than the regular balance sheet report. However, 
>> the eguile report contained a warning as a footnote saying - Development 
>> version - double check the numbers…
>> In all the time I have looked at this report since, I haven’t come across 
>> any differences between the eguile and the non-eguile versions. I haven’t 
>> scrutinised this on an account by account basis, just on an overall equity, 
>> assets, liability, etc. and the numbers always matched.
>> But I see this warning even in the 3.0 version! Has anyone ever had problems 
>> trusting the numbers on the eguile report?
>> 
>> 5. Having said that, v3.0 does seem to have a problem with the eguile 
>> balance sheet report (see screenshot attached). Towards the end, where it 
>> prints the exchange rates used for stock prices, it’s showing some sort of 
>> internal report error.
> 
> Looks like the report needs to be updated for 3.0. This might be some 
> guidance with respect to your #4.
> 
>> 
>> 6. Despite these observations, if I start using GC 3.0 and later decide to 
>> go back to 2.6.* versions due to balance sheet inconsistencies, is that 
>> possible? I seem to recall reading 

Re: GnuCash 3.0 initial observations

[Adrien Monteleone]

Correction on the last point, I see 2.6.20 is up as of 4/2/18.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Deva -  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Firstly, thank you all for this new and much awaited version.
>> 
>> I have just installed GC 3.0 on Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.4 and have been 
>> browsing through what’s new and what’s improved and these are observations 
>> from my initial test run…
>> 
>> 1. When I first moved from 2.6.6 to 2.6.19, I ran into an issue with average 
>> cost as a price source on my mutual fund account. See 
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368. I thought this was fixed 
>> in 3.0, but it doesn’t seem to be. Note, however, that the use case I gave 
>> in that bug report earlier has been fixed, but other investment accounts 
>> seem to have issues. Upon reviewing the account with the cost issue, only 
>> thing I can see is that when a mutual fund account has both purchases and 
>> redemptions, the balance sheet report using average cost price source 
>> doesn’t report the cost correctly. When there are only purchases, the cost 
>> is computed correctly. Is anyone else seeing this problem? I am keen on 
>> moving to 3.0 due to other features introduced in this version, but this is 
>> keeping me grounded. I can share an account report and the balance sheet 
>> report privately to whoever is interested in diagnosing this problem.
>> 
> I think that’s intended behavior of the ‘average cost’ option. (‘cost’ is 
> supposed to only look at buys, not sells, but it in fact, looks at both) You 
> probably want ‘weighted average’ instead. Read over this comment from a bug 
> report on the ‘average cost’ issue: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368#c4
> 
> This was ‘fixed’ by making ’nearest in time’ the default instead of ‘average 
> cost’.
> 
>> 2. The currency symbol (INR in this case) is printed in bold (looks that way 
>> from its appearance), which makes it look like a blob on the reports. On the 
>> main CoA page, the currency is distinctly clearer. Is there a setting to 
>> make it look like the way it appears on CoA? (see screenshot attached)
> 
> I could be wrong, but that looks like a font issue. Perhaps experiment with 
> the choices for the stylesheet. It might be a simple solution of increasing 
> the size, but finding a cleaner font might be the best route.
>> 
>> 3. One much awaited feature is the ability to import prices from a csv file. 
>> I could never get Finance::Quote to work with my India stocks and mutual 
>> funds, so I have been manually updating prices on a monthly basis. So this 
>> feature greatly helps. When I try to do a sample import of prices, I ran 
>> into an issue. My csv file has 4 columns - date (dd-mm-), ticker, price, 
>> currency. So on the import screen, I clicked on the header (of the datafile 
>> shown in a grid) and 4 options crop up to select date, commodity from, 
>> currency to and amount. But I am unable to select any of these options to 
>> designate the column as a date, amount, etc. It shows me a drop down listing 
>> 4 options for column type, but no matter what I click, nothing gets 
>> selected. On this screen, I did select the date format as d-m-y.
> 
> Based on the initial report in this older bug report: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779565, perhaps try changing the 
> delimiter and/or closing the book and trying again.
> 
>> 
>> 4. When I first came across balance sheet (eguile) report in 2.6.6, I took a 
>> liking for this report more than the regular balance sheet report. However, 
>> the eguile report contained a warning as a footnote saying - Development 
>> version - double check the numbers…
>> In all the time I have looked at this report since, I haven’t come across 
>> any differences between the eguile and the non-eguile versions. I haven’t 
>> scrutinised this on an account by account basis, just on an overall equity, 
>> assets, liability, etc. and the numbers always matched.
>> But I see this warning even in the 3.0 version! Has anyone ever had problems 
>> trusting the numbers on the eguile report?
>> 
>> 5. Having said that, v3.0 does seem to have a problem with the eguile 
>> balance sheet report (see screenshot attached). Towards the end, where it 
>> prints the exchange rates used for stock prices, it’s showing some sort of 
>> internal report error.
> 
> Looks like the report needs to be updated for 3.0. This might be some 
> guidance with respect to your #4.
> 
>> 
>> 6. Despite these observations, if I start using GC 3.0 and later decide to 
>> go back to 2.6.* versions due to balance sheet inconsistencies, is that 
>> possible? I seem to recall reading some notes on the release stating that 
>> latest versions change folder locations and some internal structural 
>> changes, so I worry that once I save a datafile in 3.0, it may prevent me 
>> 

Re: GNUcash 3.0: Share price displayed as fractional (vs. decimal)

[David Carlson]

Ed,

GnuCash keeps share prices internally in that hard-to-read fractional
format because it is the most accurate way to store the data.  However, I
think this is a change in behavior so if you could file a bug report about
what is happening in release 3.0 the developers will be able to take a look
at it after they get the showstopper bugs fixed.

Thanks for reporting it.

David C

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Ed Boivin  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’ve upgraded GNUcash to V3.0 – love the new look & feel…thanks!
>
> One difference I’m seeing is how share prices are displayed in an open
> account:
>
>   *   Pre 3.0: Share price displayed as decimal
>   *   With 3.0: Share price is displayed as fractional… unless the
> transaction is selected – then it shows as decimal
>
> I’ve attached a screen capture where I’ve selected one transaction – shows
> share price of 45.494881. If I unselect the transaction, the price is then
> displayed as fractional: 45 + 145/293.
>
> Is there any way to force only a decimal view?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> Fraction display:
> [cid:image002.jpg@01D3CCB5.AD8D1E90]
>
> Decimal display (if selected):
> [cid:image006.jpg@01D3CCB5.AD8D1E90]
>
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Re: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

[David Carlson]

Wes,
That is a known issue which the developers have taken up with Microsoft.

Before you override the warning, however, carefully read the list of known
bugs in the release announcement to see if you would prefer to wait for a
maintenance release in this series.

There is also a thread about release 3.0 crashing in Windows that you
should read.

David C

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Wes Shank  wrote:

> I have attempted to download the new stable release and Windows defender
> halts the download and indicates the file has a virus. Can someone shed
> some light on that?
>
> Wes Shank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-announce 
> On Behalf Of John Ralls
> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 4:18 PM
> To: Gnucash-User 
> Cc: gnucash-devel ;
> gnucash-annou...@gnucash.org
> Subject: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released
>
> GnuCash 3.0 released
>
> The GnuCash development team proudly announces GnuCash 3.0, the first
> release in our new 3.x stable series.
> New Features for Users:
>
> The headline item for this release is that GnuCash now uses the
> Gtk+-3.0 Toolkit and the WebKit2Gtk API. This change was forced on us by
> some major Linux distributions dropping support for the WebKit1 API.
> Unfortunately the Webkit project doesn't support Microsoft Windows so that
> platform will continue to use the WebKit1 API, though with Gtk3. We've
> selected Gtk+-3.14.0 as the minimum version because it fully supports CSS
> theming.
> New editors to remove outdated or incorrect match data from the import
> maps, a new user interfacs for managing files associated with transactions,
> an improved facility for removing old prices from the price database, and a
> way to remove deleted files from the history list in the file menu.
> New Reports: A Reconciliation Report based on the Transaction Report,a
> Income GST Report, and a Cashflow Barchart report.
> A new CSV importer largely rewritten in C++, adding new features
> including the ability to re-import CSV files exported from GnuCash, along
> with a separate CSV price importer.
> A new preference panel for the Alphavantage API key so that
> Finance::Quote users need not edit /etc/gnucash/environment. We've removed
> all references to the various Yahoo! quote sources and made Alphavantage
> the default.
> Data file directories are now located appropriately to the operating
> system's conventions by default:
> Windows: CSIDL_APPDATA/Gnucash
> MacOS: $HOME/Application Support/Gnucash
> Linux: $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnucash (or the default
> $HOME/.config/gnucash)
> It's still possible to overried with the environment variable
> GNC_DOC_PATH, which replaces GNC_DOT_DIR in earlier versions of GnuCash.
> Accounts in the Bayes import map are now linked by GUID instead of
> names so that the matcher won't have to be retrained if you rename an
> account. The Bayesian import maps are also stored in a flatter structure to
> allow faster access, especially in SQL. These changes mean that if you have
> Bayesian mapping data, once converted your database will be loadable only
> by GnuCash 2.6.20 and later.
> MySQL and SQLite3 date storage has changed a bit. Once converted,
> MySQL and SQLite3 database will be loadable only by GnuCash 2.6.19 and
> later.
> Numerics are rewritten to allow for more significant digits. The old
> 6-digit-maximum fraction is now 9-digits, and prices may have up to 18
> digit precision.
> Chart Reports appearance is improved, including more modern chart
> colours as suggested by http://clrs.cc/.
> Transaction Report improvements, including regular expression
> filtering and many more options and features including a "Subtotal Summary
> Grid" The subtotal summary-grid will tabulate subtotals - prime-sortkey
> vertically, sec-sortkey horizontally. For example, with prime-sortkey =
> accounts, sec-sortkey = date, sec-subtotal = monthly will produce a monthly
> time series table.
> The About dialog box layout is improved and now includes the detected
> Finance::Quote version.
> GnuCash will always build the locale-specific tax modules. This was
> optional when building with autotools and never enabled when building with
> cmake. Note that the only supported tax locales are en_US and de_DE.
> On Macs the Reconcile Window's menu moved to the menubar.
> GnuCash no longer supports Guile-1.8 and now does support Guile-2.2
>
> New Features for Developers:
>
> Several parts of the engine and the SQL backend are rewritten in C++,
> an effort that will continue in the next development cycle. KVP is now
> private to libgncmod-engine and accessible outside via qof_instance_set and
> qof_instance_get. KVP and GUID are reimplemnted in C++ using boost::variant
> and boost::UUID respectively.
> C++ unit tests require GoogleTest. While it's possible to use prebuilt
> 

Re: Unrealized loss

[Adrien Monteleone]

Apologies David,

Somehow after reading over his posts several times, I still missed that. And 
seeing that now, makes my questions moot or answered.

So I’m more confidant to say, “Not a bug.”

The gain/loss calculation is being done on the various prices from whatever 
account he is using to buy/sell shares in. I’d suspect if he deletes the prices 
from the db, the report is still going to pull the relevant price(s) based on 
the commodity setting from the math in the transaction. If he bought shares at 
a lower price than he did previously, I would expect a sane response by GnuCash 
would be to report an unrealized loss.

This *might* be related to what we discovered in Feb while looking at the Trial 
Balance report.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:24 AM, David T.  wrote:
> 
> I surmise from the OP that there ARE buy/sell transactions, based on the 
> comment, "I do not enter share values into GC until the day I sell them," 
> which was made early in the thread. 
> 
> I agree that details are lacking, and I apologize for the miscommunication 
> regarding bugs. As I don't fully understand what a True Accountant believes 
> is supposed to happen in those situations, I'm at a loss to determine whether 
> gnucash is getting it right or wrong. 
> 
> David T 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:28, Adrien Monteleone
>  wrote:
> I certainly didn’t advocate filing a bug on this. I think more sleuthing and 
> answers are needed.
> 
> Yes, I understand the db gets an entry on a buy/sell transaction, but if you 
> don’t have buy or sell transactions?...
> 
> And to be clear, those aren’t ‘automatically downloaded.’ They are the result 
> of the transaction math.(perhaps the OP wasn’t expecting them to appear, but 
> they really have to if the account is to be kept correct and reports work out 
> properly, as you noted) We’re not talking about GC downloading new prices 
> each day/month/week without being told to do so.
> 
> I’m at a loss with this thread because the OP hasn’t made clear that there 
> aren’t any buy/sell transactions of anything. They claim they don’t use any 
> currency other than EUR and don’t track stocks. The trading accounts could 
> still be enabled, and a commodity added to the assets. And if this occurred 
> on more than one date, well, then certainly, there will be more than one 
> price in the db.(each one generated by GC as a result of the transaction)
> 
> But the OP has been silent on these questions, so it’s probably best to wait 
> till he chimes back in to continue the guessing any further.
> 
> What we don’t know is:
> 
> Is he seeing this unrealized gain/loss without ANY prices AT ALL in the db? 
> And without ANY other currencies other than the default book currency in 
> play?(EUR) And without ANY assets denominated in ANYTHING but EUR? And 
> without ANY stocks, funds, et cetera?
> 
> Until all of those answers are ‘yes’ I don’t think there’s a bug at all, but 
> rather, either a transaction that is hard to find, or a user misunderstanding.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:28 PM, David T.  wrote:
> > 
> > Adrien, 
> > 
> > Gnucash places an entry in the price db when you create a buy or sell 
> > transaction.  This ensures that certain reports behave, I recall. 
> > 
> > As this issue has been discussed previously and at length, I would hesitate 
> > to file a bug until the experts weigh in on the esoteric aspects of 
> > unrealized gains in gnucash.  Currently, those experts are putting out 
> > bigger fires. 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 5:35, Adrien Monteleone
> >  wrote:
> > But the OP specifically said he doesn’t deal with stocks or any other 
> > investments. So there should be no such added prices. (and technically, 
> > those would be manual inputs via the transaction, just not via the Price 
> > Editor) As far as I’m aware, GnuCash doesn’t just grab prices from online 
> > without being told to in some fashion.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> > > On Apr 4, 2018, at 3:55 PM, nvsoar  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hm.  Seems to me that a price is added to the system any time a stock 
> > > is purchased or sold, or when a dividend is reinvested.
> > > nvsoar
> > > 
> > > On 04/04/18 09:32, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > >> The value will usually change based on that setting. Sometimes ‘latest’ 
> > >> and ’nearest in time’ will be the same, but that depends on running the 
> > >> report ON an actual day (not FOR an actual day) that is on or after a 
> > >> price update and before the next price update.
> > >> 
> > >> First, you say you deleted all rates updated automatically by GC without 
> > >> you noticing. (does not happen, you have to open the price editor and 
> > >> tell it to ‘get quotes’) This leaves the presumption that there are 
> > >> other prices in the db that you either entered manually or 

Re: 2.6.19 crash: one account recovered, one not yet recovered [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, John Ralls wrote:


The newest file *should* be personal.gnucash.20180403092939.gnucash;
personal.gnucash.20180403092939.gnucash.20180403125159.gnucash should be
the previous version from the last save.


Hi John,

  Re-reading the Guide clears things up for me. The .gnucash files are
complete copies of the last saved account (in the sense of 'personal' and
'business' rather than individual transaction journals in either). The .log
files reflect changes since the last save in case of a unplanned closure of
the application. So, saving the file before closing the application means I
can delete all .log files as their data has been saved in the latest
.gnucash file.


Yes, you can rename any of the .gnucash files to personal.gnucash and then
use File>Open to open it, then clean out the directory of the backups. The
next time you open GnuCash 3.0 it will offer to delete the missing files
from the MRU l list.


  I missed the announcement of 3.0; just downloaded it. Will build and
upgrade today.

Many thanks,

Rich
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Re: GnuCash 3.0 initial observations

[Christopher Lam]

Hi Deva

First you forgot to attach screenshots.

I'll assist where I can:

On 05/04/18 16:43, Deva - wrote:

Hello,

Firstly, thank you all for this new and much awaited version.

I have just installed GC 3.0 on Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.4 and have been 
browsing through what’s new and what’s improved and these are observations from 
my initial test run…

1. When I first moved from 2.6.6 to 2.6.19, I ran into an issue with average 
cost as a price source on my mutual fund account. See 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775368. I thought this was fixed in 
3.0, but it doesn’t seem to be. Note, however, that the use case I gave in that 
bug report earlier has been fixed, but other investment accounts seem to have 
issues. Upon reviewing the account with the cost issue, only thing I can see is 
that when a mutual fund account has both purchases and redemptions, the balance 
sheet report using average cost price source doesn’t report the cost correctly. 
When there are only purchases, the cost is computed correctly. Is anyone else 
seeing this problem? I am keen on moving to 3.0 due to other features 
introduced in this version, but this is keeping me grounded. I can share an 
account report and the balance sheet report privately to whoever is interested 
in diagnosing this problem.




2. The currency symbol (INR in this case) is printed in bold (looks that way 
from its appearance), which makes it look like a blob on the reports. On the 
main CoA page, the currency is distinctly clearer. Is there a setting to make 
it look like the way it appears on CoA? (see screenshot attached)

Can't see :)

SNIP



4. When I first came across balance sheet (eguile) report in 2.6.6, I took a 
liking for this report more than the regular balance sheet report. However, the 
eguile report contained a warning as a footnote saying - Development version - 
double check the numbers…
In all the time I have looked at this report since, I haven’t come across any 
differences between the eguile and the non-eguile versions. I haven’t 
scrutinised this on an account by account basis, just on an overall equity, 
assets, liability, etc. and the numbers always matched.
But I see this warning even in the 3.0 version! Has anyone ever had problems 
trusting the numbers on the eguile report?
From my understanding of eguile balance sheet, it should be broadly 
similar to the regular balance sheet. However the regular balance sheet 
has more processing and will note unrealized gains/losses. The eguile 
one doesn't. This is one difference that I've noted. Unfortunately the 
eguile report developer is no longer active and the eguile reports are 
too complicated to debug, and may be removed in the future.

5. Having said that, v3.0 does seem to have a problem with the eguile balance 
sheet report (see screenshot attached). Towards the end, where it prints the 
exchange rates used for stock prices, it’s showing some sort of internal report 
error.

6. Despite these observations, if I start using GC 3.0 and later decide to go 
back to 2.6.* versions due to balance sheet inconsistencies, is that possible? 
I seem to recall reading some notes on the release stating that latest versions 
change folder locations and some internal structural changes, so I worry that 
once I save a datafile in 3.0, it may prevent me from opening it in 2.6.11 
(say) - my last stable version where the balance sheet numbers are still shown 
correctly.

I believe 3.0 datafiles opened in 2.6.19 or earlier would be readonly.

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Re: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[David Carlson]

nor,

Since you found the main thread on this maillist about this bug or bugs you
know that the developers are already looking in to it with a very high
priority.

It is not an easy one resolve because, among other things, it is most
likely to appear when release 3.0 is installed over an installation of
release 2.6 xx in Windows but not in a clean install where there was no
earlier version installed.  Since overlay installations do not delete user
settings they need to look into areas where no developer has gone before,
so to speak.

Please be patient.

David C

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:56 AM, nor via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I am using GNUCASH several years for my business purpose and never had any
> problem for upgrade to new stable version.  Opening file created with ver
> 2.6.19 results in to crash with gnucash 3.0. I suggest developers should
> look into this so that normal end user will be in a position to use this
> wonderful programme smoothly.At the moment, i reverted to ver 2.6.19nor
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RE: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

[pjlbyrne]

Hi Wes,

The developers assure us in other recent threads that the virus report is a
'false-positive' ie not really a virus. The matter has been reported to
microsoft so it should not be reported in the future.

Regards
Patrick



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Re: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[nor via gnucash-user]

I am using GNUCASH several years for my business purpose and never had any
problem for upgrade to new stable version.  Opening file created with ver
2.6.19 results in to crash with gnucash 3.0. I suggest developers should
look into this so that normal end user will be in a position to use this
wonderful programme smoothly.At the moment, i reverted to ver 2.6.19nor 



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Re: gnucash 3.0 crashes opening accounts file

[nor]

Same problem with window10. GNUcash 3 crashes on upgrade from ver 2.6.19

greatly appreciate advise





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RE: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

[Wes Shank]

I have attempted to download the new stable release and Windows defender halts 
the download and indicates the file has a virus. Can someone shed some light on 
that?

Wes Shank

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-announce  On 
Behalf Of John Ralls
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 4:18 PM
To: Gnucash-User 
Cc: gnucash-devel ; gnucash-annou...@gnucash.org
Subject: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 3.0 Released

GnuCash 3.0 released

The GnuCash development team proudly announces GnuCash 3.0, the first release 
in our new 3.x stable series.
New Features for Users:

The headline item for this release is that GnuCash now uses the Gtk+-3.0 
Toolkit and the WebKit2Gtk API. This change was forced on us by some major 
Linux distributions dropping support for the WebKit1 API. Unfortunately the 
Webkit project doesn't support Microsoft Windows so that platform will continue 
to use the WebKit1 API, though with Gtk3. We've selected Gtk+-3.14.0 as the 
minimum version because it fully supports CSS theming.
New editors to remove outdated or incorrect match data from the import 
maps, a new user interfacs for managing files associated with transactions, an 
improved facility for removing old prices from the price database, and a way to 
remove deleted files from the history list in the file menu.
New Reports: A Reconciliation Report based on the Transaction Report,a 
Income GST Report, and a Cashflow Barchart report.
A new CSV importer largely rewritten in C++, adding new features including 
the ability to re-import CSV files exported from GnuCash, along with a separate 
CSV price importer.
A new preference panel for the Alphavantage API key so that Finance::Quote 
users need not edit /etc/gnucash/environment. We've removed all references to 
the various Yahoo! quote sources and made Alphavantage the default.
Data file directories are now located appropriately to the operating 
system's conventions by default:
Windows: CSIDL_APPDATA/Gnucash
MacOS: $HOME/Application Support/Gnucash
Linux: $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnucash (or the default $HOME/.config/gnucash)
It's still possible to overried with the environment variable GNC_DOC_PATH, 
which replaces GNC_DOT_DIR in earlier versions of GnuCash.
Accounts in the Bayes import map are now linked by GUID instead of names so 
that the matcher won't have to be retrained if you rename an account. The 
Bayesian import maps are also stored in a flatter structure to allow faster 
access, especially in SQL. These changes mean that if you have Bayesian mapping 
data, once converted your database will be loadable only by GnuCash 2.6.20 and 
later.
MySQL and SQLite3 date storage has changed a bit. Once converted, MySQL and 
SQLite3 database will be loadable only by GnuCash 2.6.19 and later.
Numerics are rewritten to allow for more significant digits. The old 
6-digit-maximum fraction is now 9-digits, and prices may have up to 18 digit 
precision.
Chart Reports appearance is improved, including more modern chart colours 
as suggested by http://clrs.cc/.
Transaction Report improvements, including regular expression filtering and 
many more options and features including a "Subtotal Summary Grid" The subtotal 
summary-grid will tabulate subtotals - prime-sortkey vertically, sec-sortkey 
horizontally. For example, with prime-sortkey = accounts, sec-sortkey = date, 
sec-subtotal = monthly will produce a monthly time series table.
The About dialog box layout is improved and now includes the detected 
Finance::Quote version.
GnuCash will always build the locale-specific tax modules. This was 
optional when building with autotools and never enabled when building with 
cmake. Note that the only supported tax locales are en_US and de_DE.
On Macs the Reconcile Window's menu moved to the menubar.
GnuCash no longer supports Guile-1.8 and now does support Guile-2.2

New Features for Developers:

Several parts of the engine and the SQL backend are rewritten in C++, an 
effort that will continue in the next development cycle. KVP is now private to 
libgncmod-engine and accessible outside via qof_instance_set and 
qof_instance_get. KVP and GUID are reimplemnted in C++ using boost::variant and 
boost::UUID respectively.
C++ unit tests require GoogleTest. While it's possible to use prebuilt 
libgtest and libgmock on some distros, building static libraries for GnuCash is 
preferred. It may be necessary to provide the paths to the googletest and 
googlemock source with CMake parameters GTEST_ROOT and GMOCK_ROOT respectively.
The date implementation is migrated to boost::date-time, replacing a Glib 
GDateTime implementation. This makes the earliest date recordable 1 January 
1400CE instead of 1 January 1CE. We doubt any users will be affected.
We've reorganized the code into a core library directory, libgnucash, and 

Re: Unrealized loss

[cageda]

Lam 

I have reported the bug. 

TIA for your help. 
Alain 






De: "Christopher Lam"  
À: cag...@free.fr 
Cc: "gnucash-user"  
Envoyé: Mercredi 4 Avril 2018 20:41:37 
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss 

Hi Alain, please report bug and we can track discussion there. 

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 20:12 < [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] > wrote: 


I suspect there is a bug that should be reported: 

As I do NOT manage currencies other than EUR and no traders accounts taking 
into account share values, I have deleted all exchanges rates that had been 
updated automatically by GC without my noticing. 
BUT my Unrealized loss on a given day varies according to my setting the 
calculation mode to "average" or "nearest in time" for instance. It doesn's 
seem to make sense since there are NO exchange rates in my system. 

Ideas? 
TIA 
Alain 




De: "sunfish62" < [ mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com | sunfis...@yahoo.com ] > 
À: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] , "John Ralls" < [ 
mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] > 
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] > 
Envoyé: Lundi 2 Avril 2018 14:52:46 
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss 

Alain, 

Your new transaction is balanced, and won't affect the imbalance in another 
transaction. 

I personally find the unrealized gains issue to be exceedingly difficult to 
understand. Since you say you don't care about this, just ignore it. 

David T 




On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 17:02, [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] 
< [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] > wrote: 



De: [ mailto: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] | [ 
mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] ] 
À: "John Ralls" < [ mailto: [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] 
| [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] ] > 
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto: [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] | [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] ] > 
Envoyé: Lundi 2 Avril 2018 13:51:03 
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss 




De: "John Ralls" < [ mailto: [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] 
| [ mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us | jra...@ceridwen.us ] ] > 
À: [ mailto: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] | [ 
mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] ] 
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto: [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] | [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] ] > 
Envoyé: Dimanche 1 Avril 2018 15:34:43 
Objet: Re: Unrealized loss 






On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:13 AM, [ mailto: [ mailto: [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | 
cag...@free.fr ] | [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] ] | [ mailto: [ 
mailto:cag...@free.fr | cag...@free.fr ] | [ mailto:cag...@free.fr | 
cag...@free.fr ] ] ] wrote: 


Hello. 

I have have had an "unrealized loss" showing on my balance sheet for years. I 
haven't bothered too much as the amount is extremely small. (€7.70). 

I had kind advice on this forum as to identify the date on which the loss 
showed up and the procedure to cancel it. I did find the date but stangely not 
the transaction. So I'm not going to keep trying to cancel the loss any longer. 

I read that, without actually "cancelling" the loss, it is possible to prevent 
it from showing. I know that this is not legal for a company, but my book 
keeping is fully personal so I'd like to know the procedure. 




“Cancelling” isn’t really the right term. You need to record the loss as either 
expense or negative income depending on how you handle capital gains. There’s 
an explanation of how to do this in [ [ [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html ] | [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html ] ] | [ [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html ] | [ 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html | 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html ] ] ] . 

Regards, 
John Ralls 



I have identified the day on which the unrealized lossed first appeared. I have 
drawn a transaction report for that day (and the day before). There is no 
transaction that can remotely explain the loss. 
I do not handle foreign currencies. Regarding shares I do not use trader 
accounts or split transactions including profits or losses. I do not enter 
share values into GC until the day I sell them. There is no way in the meantime 
GC can take into account a difference in value. 

Something might help identify where the problem comes from: I had another 
instance with an unrealized loss as big as my total yearly income. It went away 
a few weeks (or months I'm not sure) after it showed up. There 

Sending data to my accountant

[Roache Ian]

What is the best way to get my gnucash data to my accountant for him to check 
and prepare my tax return? Is there a way I can do this if he doesn’t have the 
gnucash platform?

TIA
Ian
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Re: Register Font Size in Version 3

[cicko]

Hi, George,

Please have a look at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3
and do write back with your results so that the page can be updated if
needed, and eventually help other users.

Cheers,

Alen



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Re: Gnucash 3.0 Build error

[Eric Siegerman]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 10:56:01PM -0700, DaveC49 wrote:
> fatal error: gdk/gdk.h: No such file or directory

This looks like the problem.  Maybe you don't have the relevant
package installed.  On my Ubuntu 16.04 system, I think that's
"libgtk-3-dev".

  - Eric
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