Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[Wm via gnucash-user]

On 08/02/2018 14:28, David Carlson wrote:

If you want to create a fictional stock and manually enter prices from time
to time that is easy.

Just use the security editor and invent a name and symbol, possibly under
the group called Fund.  Do not set an online quote source.  Then manually
use the price editor to enter prices for whatever dates you like.


I think you'll find it is the value that alters not the supposed price 
which is probably a nominal 1 for the OP.


gnc deals well with the price changes but not so well with value changes.

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Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[Roger Miskowicz]

Thanks Tim, that is the same as my situation and I like your solution.  I
am not worried about tax time as I just need to have a general idea I can
use for a sort of sanity check.  I will try your solution in parallel.


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Timothy B. Taylor 
wrote:

> Roger, there may be a simpler solution. I had an investment account that
> internally was kind of a mess, with various holdings that I really didn't
> want to try to track individually. The reports from the investment company
> were sufficient to track dividends and gains and to report taxes. I wanted
> to track the overall value in that account, but I didn't want to or need to
> deal with the internal ups and downs.
>
> So I created an asset account (type=asset) with the opening balance the
> total value of the account and date shown on the most recent statement.
>
> Then I created an equity account called Changes in Investment Value or
> something similar with an opening balance of zero.
>
> Periodically I add a transaction in the asset account to reflect the
> accumulated changes in value since the last transaction, to make the
> Gnucash account balance match the total value of the account. This
> transaction is balanced against the corresponding equity account. This
> makes sense to me. When my overall asset value goes up, so does my equity.
> And vice versa.
>
> In effect I am treating this investment account as a cash account, with a
> particular value on any given day, with ups and downs corresponding to the
> overall value of the account.
>
> The result is my Gnucash net worth, balance sheet and similar reports make
> sense. But of course dividends, capital gains, purchases, sales, investment
> fees and similar accounts do not. At tax time I have to add the Gnucash
> results to the data received from the investment company.
>
> I'm sure this won't pass anyone's proper-accounting test, but it seems to
> work for me. Tim
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Roger Miskowicz 
> wrote:
>
>> I went through the section 9.5.3 Entering Pre-Existing Stocks for about
>> the
>> fifth time.  Don't know what I did differently but it now works as
>> expected.  Before it used to crash when I tried a price update.
>>
>> Actually it still crashes when I click on Apply instead of Ok when editing
>> a Price Entry.  (I think, I need to check it out more to determine exactly
>> what I am doing to cause the crash).
>>
>> Is there a related bug in 2.6.12?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:28 AM, David Carlson <
>> david.carlson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > If you want to create a fictional stock and manually enter prices from
>> > time to time that is easy.
>> >
>> > Just use the security editor and invent a name and symbol, possibly
>> under
>> > the group called Fund.  Do not set an online quote source.  Then
>> manually
>> > use the price editor to enter prices for whatever dates you like.
>> >
>> > David C
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Roger Miskowicz 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sorry, I just want to take a number from one online brokerage report
>> and
>> >> manually put it into gnucash.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:28 AM, David T.  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Roger,
>> >> >
>> >> > You stay by stating that you are able to generate a report that tells
>> >> you
>> >> > "the current value of everything."  Then, you ask how you can add
>> >> another
>> >> > layer of complexity to accomplish the same thing?
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't understand: what's wrong with the report?
>> >> >
>> >> > David
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 16:14, Roger Miskowicz
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> > I have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks,
>> >> certificates,
>> >> > cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my
>> >> local
>> >> > currency the current value of everything.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1
>> >> share
>> >> > for which  I can manually update a single price representing the
>> current
>> >> > value of the entire collection.
>> >> >
>> >> > Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I
>> don't
>> >> > understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
>> >> > ocassionally crashing gnucash.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think I would like something such as:
>> >> >
>> >> > Investment
>> >> >   Stocks
>> >> > myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single
>> >> share.)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[Roger Miskowicz]

I went through the section 9.5.3 Entering Pre-Existing Stocks for about the
fifth time.  Don't know what I did differently but it now works as
expected.  Before it used to crash when I tried a price update.

Actually it still crashes when I click on Apply instead of Ok when editing
a Price Entry.  (I think, I need to check it out more to determine exactly
what I am doing to cause the crash).

Is there a related bug in 2.6.12?

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:28 AM, David Carlson 
wrote:

> If you want to create a fictional stock and manually enter prices from
> time to time that is easy.
>
> Just use the security editor and invent a name and symbol, possibly under
> the group called Fund.  Do not set an online quote source.  Then manually
> use the price editor to enter prices for whatever dates you like.
>
> David C
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Roger Miskowicz 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I just want to take a number from one online brokerage report and
>> manually put it into gnucash.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:28 AM, David T.  wrote:
>>
>> > Roger,
>> >
>> > You stay by stating that you are able to generate a report that tells
>> you
>> > "the current value of everything."  Then, you ask how you can add
>> another
>> > layer of complexity to accomplish the same thing?
>> >
>> > I don't understand: what's wrong with the report?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 16:14, Roger Miskowicz
>> >  wrote:
>> > I have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks,
>> certificates,
>> > cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my
>> local
>> > currency the current value of everything.
>> >
>> > I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1
>> share
>> > for which  I can manually update a single price representing the current
>> > value of the entire collection.
>> >
>> > Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I don't
>> > understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
>> > ocassionally crashing gnucash.
>> >
>> > I think I would like something such as:
>> >
>> > Investment
>> >   Stocks
>> > myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single
>> share.)
>> >
>> >
>> > I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
>> >
>> > I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[David Carlson]

If you want to create a fictional stock and manually enter prices from time
to time that is easy.

Just use the security editor and invent a name and symbol, possibly under
the group called Fund.  Do not set an online quote source.  Then manually
use the price editor to enter prices for whatever dates you like.

David C

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Roger Miskowicz  wrote:

> Sorry, I just want to take a number from one online brokerage report and
> manually put it into gnucash.
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:28 AM, David T.  wrote:
>
> > Roger,
> >
> > You stay by stating that you are able to generate a report that tells you
> > "the current value of everything."  Then, you ask how you can add another
> > layer of complexity to accomplish the same thing?
> >
> > I don't understand: what's wrong with the report?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 16:14, Roger Miskowicz
> >  wrote:
> > I have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks,
> certificates,
> > cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my local
> > currency the current value of everything.
> >
> > I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1
> share
> > for which  I can manually update a single price representing the current
> > value of the entire collection.
> >
> > Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I don't
> > understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
> > ocassionally crashing gnucash.
> >
> > I think I would like something such as:
> >
> > Investment
> >   Stocks
> > myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single
> share.)
> >
> >
> > I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> >
> > I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[Roger Miskowicz]

Sorry, I just want to take a number from one online brokerage report and
manually put it into gnucash.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:28 AM, David T.  wrote:

> Roger,
>
> You stay by stating that you are able to generate a report that tells you
> "the current value of everything."  Then, you ask how you can add another
> layer of complexity to accomplish the same thing?
>
> I don't understand: what's wrong with the report?
>
> David
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 16:14, Roger Miskowicz
>  wrote:
> I have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks, certificates,
> cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my local
> currency the current value of everything.
>
> I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1 share
> for which  I can manually update a single price representing the current
> value of the entire collection.
>
> Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I don't
> understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
> ocassionally crashing gnucash.
>
> I think I would like something such as:
>
> Investment
>   Stocks
> myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single share.)
>
>
> I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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Re: How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Roger, 
You stay by stating that you are able to generate a report that tells you "the 
current value of everything."  Then, you ask how you can add another layer of 
complexity to accomplish the same thing?
I don't understand: what's wrong with the report? 
David

 
 
  On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 16:14, Roger Miskowicz wrote:   I 
have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks, certificates,
cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my local
currency the current value of everything.

I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1 share
for which  I can manually update a single price representing the current
value of the entire collection.

Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I don't
understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
ocassionally crashing gnucash.

I think I would like something such as:

Investment
  Stocks
    myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single share.)


I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.

I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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How to Manually Track a Collection of Stocks & Stuff Combined into a Single Share

[Roger Miskowicz]

I have an Investment Account which is a collection of stocks, certificates,
cash etc in two currencies.  I can get a report that tells me in my local
currency the current value of everything.

I would like to create a stock, fund, or whatever appropriate with 1 share
for which  I can manually update a single price representing the current
value of the entire collection.

Using the online guide I have tried creating a fund or stock but I don't
understand the process and can't seem to get it to work and even
ocassionally crashing gnucash.

I think I would like something such as:

Investment
  Stocks
myStock  (I would like to manually update the price of a single share.)


I am using gucash 2.6.12 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.

I would appreciate it if someone can suggest a way to do this.
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