Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-25 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 08:09:31AM -0800, Dan Kegel wrote: > > https://www.open-scap.org/download/ shows they provide an > open source tool which is in repositories for four redhat-ish distros and > two debian-ish distros; on Ubuntu, I was able to walk down the > path of using it a bit, looks a

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-22 Thread Dan Kegel
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Ben McGinnes wrote: >> And when you're on those certified, curated systems, you have >> access to tools like >> https://www.open-scap.org/resources/documentation/make-a-rhel7-server-compliant-with-pci-dss/ >> to help make sure you're in

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-22 Thread helices
Let's cut through these ill-informed suppositions once and for all: If host compliance was our problem, I would not have posted here at all. Also, nowhere in this thread have I stated any inability to compile myself. Having been doing such for 40+ years, that is not our problem either. Defending

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-21 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 07:36:08AM -0800, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Ben McGinnes wrote: >> >> Because these two lines explain *precisely* why you need something >> like RHEL or CentOS (certified systems to go with the auditing) >> *and* updated

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-21 Thread Dan Kegel
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Ben McGinnes wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 05:06:54PM -0600, helices wrote: >> I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current >> version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. >> >> Nevertheless, the two

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-20 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 05:06:54PM -0600, helices wrote: > I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current > version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. > > Nevertheless, the two (2) greatest reasons are: > >1. PCI DSS v3.2 >2. PCI DSS compliance

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-20 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Tue 2018-02-20 13:18:40 +0100, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > One solution to this situation may be to install the latest GnuPG > in a Docker container, where it can have all the required libraries > and dependencies that it needs, without disturbing the host OS. I think this misses the point that

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-20 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:45:52AM -0800, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > How can GnuPG contribute to fixing this problem? The traditional way > that many other projects have taken is to define their core programmatic > functionality into a library with a strict interface guarantees, and > have

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/20/2018 01:18 PM, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > If anybody is willing to give a try to any of these solutions I would > like to help. I would be generally cautious for both approaches without proper support in the surrounding infrastructure. In particular an upgrade to a depending library would

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-20 Thread Dashamir Hoxha
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On Sat 2018-02-17 17:06:54 -0600, helices wrote: > > I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current > > version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. > > Here's one last try

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-19 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Monday 19 February 2018 at 8:51:08 PM, in a message with no id, ed...@pettijohn-web.com wrote:- > I think gpgme is the answer here as well. If you mean > specifically > a python interface to gpgme then it's probably up to > a python

Re: Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-19 Thread edgar
On Feb 19, 2018 12:45 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > On Sat 2018-02-17 17:06:54 -0600, helices wrote: > > I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current > > version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. > > Here's one last try to

Why Operating Systems don't always upgrade GnuPG [was: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?]

2018-02-19 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2018-02-17 17:06:54 -0600, helices wrote: > I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current > version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. Here's one last try to explain the situation. GnuPG (and the libraries it depends on) are used by (aka "depended

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-19 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On 02/19/18 04:53, Werner Koch wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:38, konstan...@linuxfoundation.org said: > >> (if someone can recommend a better way that only statically links >> gnupg's own libraries like libassuan and libgpg-error, but uses shared >> objects for other system libraries, please

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:38, konstan...@linuxfoundation.org said: > (if someone can recommend a better way that only statically links > gnupg's own libraries like libassuan and libgpg-error, but uses shared > objects for other system libraries, please let me know, as I didn't find > any quickie

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-18 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 18/02/18 00:06, helices wrote: > I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current > version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. I don't think it is. I'm sorry your question didn't get answered satisfactorily; that's just how things can go on community

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-17 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 02/17/18 17:06, helices wrote: I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. Nevertheless, the two (2) greatest reasons are: 1. PCI DSS v3.2 2. PCI DSS compliance audits Being able to demonstrate that

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-17 Thread helices
I will probably never understand why wanting to run the most current version of gnupg on a plethora of servers is controversial. Nevertheless, the two (2) greatest reasons are: 1. PCI DSS v3.2 2. PCI DSS compliance audits Being able to demonstrate that we are using the latest, greatest

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-16 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On 02/14/18 15:20, gpg at mdsresource.net (helices) wrote: > CentOS 7 uses gnupg2 v2.0.22. EPEL doesn't have anything newer. > > We want to move to v2.2.x, and stay current, but we don't want to download > source and compile for dozens of systems. I had a similar need (because my users started

RE: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread Lightner, Jeffrey
users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Kahn Gillmor Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:31 PM To: helices; gnupg-users@gnupg.org Subject: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository? On Wed 2018-02-14 14:20:10 -0600, helices wrote: > CentOS 7 uses gnupg2 v2.0.22. EPEL doesn't

RE: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread edgar
time.   For a Production environment that pace of upgrade > is usually not desirable which is why people use RHEL/CentOS instead. > > > -Original Message- > From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > Kahn Gillmor > Sent: Wednesday, Fe

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread helices
; looked at rpmfind? rpmbone? > > > > And of course YOU could create the rpm and share it on EPEL yourself so > others will have it. > > > > > > *From:* Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] *On Behalf Of * > helices > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:10

RE: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread Lightner, Jeffrey
? And of course YOU could create the rpm and share it on EPEL yourself so others will have it. From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of helices Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:10 AM To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org Subject: Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread helices
e of > upgrade is usually not desirable which is why people use RHEL/CentOS > instead. > > -Original Message- > From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-boun...@gnupg.org] On Behalf Of > Daniel Kahn Gillmor > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:31 PM > To: helices; gnu

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-15 Thread Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users
Hi. Am Mittwoch, den 14.02.2018, 14:20 -0600 schrieb helices: > CentOS 7 uses gnupg2 v2.0.22. EPEL doesn't have anything newer. > We want to move to v2.2.x, and stay current, but we don't want to > download > source and compile for dozens of systems. > We want all users to be using the same

Re: How can we utilize latest GPG from RPM repository?

2018-02-14 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Wed 2018-02-14 14:20:10 -0600, helices wrote: > CentOS 7 uses gnupg2 v2.0.22. EPEL doesn't have anything newer. > > We want to move to v2.2.x, and stay current, but we don't want to download > source and compile for dozens of systems. > > We want all users to be using the same version all of