Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 04:55:59PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: - From tests carried out - Mandrava Linux was ok. I suspect that other Linux distros have no real problems - just because your works - does not mean that every other Linux distro works. However: because it works on my system,

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 08:27:59PM +0100, michael crane wrote: mwood@mhw ~ $ dir /usr/bin/gpg* Sorry, that's lingering evidence of my VMS habits: mwood@mhw ~ $ alias dir alias dir='ls -l' -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Asking whether markets are efficient is like

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/05/12 14:03, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 04:55:59PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: - From tests carried out - Mandrava Linux was ok. I suspect that other Linux distros have no real problems - just because your works - does

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread Robert J. Hansen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 5/25/12 1:47 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote: For example opensuse - all versions tested: (1) When you open the address book in TB select an address right mouse click you get an option to create a per-recipient rule for that person.

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 08:07:54PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: Openpgp/enigmail does not support gpg2 unless one has installed gpg 1.4.11 - but I no longer trust Openpgp/enigmail to do anything. That's unfortunate. While I'm mostly a Mutt user these days, I have Debian Icedove installed with

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/05/12 21:47, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 5/25/12 1:47 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote: For example opensuse - all versions tested: (1) When you open the address book in TB select an address right mouse click you get an option to create a

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/05/12 23:01, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 08:07:54PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: Openpgp/enigmail does not support gpg2 unless one has installed gpg 1.4.11 - but I no longer trust Openpgp/enigmail to do anything. That's

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-25 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 05/25/2012 06:43 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I gave you an example which was Seahorse - clearly you failed to read. You did not specify which distro was refusing to give the source for Seahorse. I've found it in the repositories for Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora. I have set out quite clearly

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.05.2012 18:57, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 12:30:54 +0300 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Mika, I cannot verify your signature, because you use PGP/MIME and this mailing list uses mailing list

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 23 May 2012 18:17, da...@gbenet.com said: I've had your key for ages - so why not attach it? Sorry, I don't understand. You want my key? Look into the OpenPGP mail header or simply use a keyserver. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:39:04PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I ran the debugging programme with Openpgp debugging options to console and I got the message that with gpg2 installed one was not able to digitally sign an e-mail whilst encrypting to their public key which in all the named

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread Robert J. Hansen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 5/24/12 3:09 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote: At least Enigmail fails to recognize PGP/MIME signatures on some mailman mailing lists. Every time this has been reported to us, it has turned out to be a bug in Mailman and not Enigmail. If you can

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:09:05 +0300 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Mika, At least Enigmail fails to recognize PGP/MIME signatures on some mailman mailing lists. That would explain the difference in what you and I see; No enigmail here. -- Regards _ /

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/05/12 13:55, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:39:04PM +0100, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I ran the debugging programme with Openpgp debugging options to console and I got the message that with gpg2 installed one was not able to

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread Werner Koch
Hi David, your mails are hard to read because you do not trim the quotes and use lines of 90 characters or longer. Please don't use more than about 72. One hint anyway: GNOME has a thing called gnome-keyring which hijacks the gpg-agent IPC and thus you run into problems when using GnuPG-2. It

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread michael crane
mwood@mhw ~ $ dir /usr/bin/gpg* ^^^ -- keyID: 0x4BFEBB31 ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-24 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/05/12 19:48, Werner Koch wrote: Hi David, your mails are hard to read because you do not trim the quotes and use lines of 90 characters or longer. Please don't use more than about 72. One hint anyway: GNOME has a thing called

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Steve
Hey Robin, I'll send you a testmail in a minute. I'm the guy from the GPGTools support discussion we had today. Talk to you off-list. If any of the GnuPG wizards like to chime in on the technical side on the bug tracker we're happy about any input. Cheers, steve Am 22.05.2012 um 20:06

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Steve
I don't know how much the demand is (or could be) but perhaps it would help make more people use OpenPGP to have a round-robin email contact system. Whoever is willing to help new users (like in this case) registers his email address with the languages he's capable of communicating in. A

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:28, steveb...@gulli.com said: If any of the GnuPG wizards like to chime in on the technical side on the bug tracker we're happy about any input. AFAIK a Mac specific PINentry is used and not the GTK+ or QT version. Thus I can't help. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 22.05.2012 21:06, Robin Kipp wrote: Hello all, well, as of today, I finally decided to start signing my EMail messages using GPG to prove the integrety of my messages. As I am primarily using Mac OS, I downloaded MacGPG

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 23/05/12 11:19, Branko Majic wrote: As a curiosity, any ideas on what you would do to avoid use of this system for spam purposes? (although encrypted spam won't be of much use :) A simple challenge-response system should suffice, I'd say. When a new user mails to such an address, he receives

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Steve
I think we had the PGP/MIME vs inline discussion already. @Robert: Would that qualify for a second entry in your FAQ with the pro/cons listed? I really would love to see some distilled output. The discussions on this list are very valuable and having the pro / con arguments in some sort of

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 5/23/12 2:50 AM, Steve wrote: I absolutely agree. At GPGTools we thought about an automatic testing system. Checking if the mail was encrypted and / or signed and then sending out the according reply. You may want to move this discussion over to the Enigmail list. We have a system set up

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 23 May 2012 11:30, mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com said: I cannot verify your signature, because you use PGP/MIME and this mailing list uses mailing list software which somehow messes up with headers and makes PGP/MIME signatures unverifiable. It is this old Mailman/Python illness. I

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:24, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: You may want to move this discussion over to the Enigmail list. We have a system set up that does much of this already, called Adele. We'd be Is that a different one than the Adele from Gnu_PP_, which is a closed source web service?

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 23.05.2012 12:56, Steve wrote: I think we had the PGP/MIME vs inline discussion already. I am using PGP/MIME in this email. Can you verify my signature on this email? You can find link to my public key in my signature. Now I stop answering to these PGP/MIME vs INLINE. I think that I have

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.05.2012 16:24, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 5/23/12 2:50 AM, Steve wrote: I absolutely agree. At GPGTools we thought about an automatic testing system. Checking if the mail was encrypted and / or signed and then sending out the according

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 5/23/12 11:29 AM, Werner Koch wrote: Is that a different one than the Adele from Gnu_PP_, which is a closed source web service? I don't know. We have the source and permission to use it -- my impression is that it's Free Software, but it's been years since I've taken a look at our Adele

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:35, mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com said: On 23.05.2012 12:56, Steve wrote: I think we had the PGP/MIME vs inline discussion already. I am using PGP/MIME in this email. Can you verify my signature on this email? You can find link to my public key in my signature. Sure:

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.05.2012 18:54, Werner Koch wrote: Weird. All PGP/MIME signed emails here cannot be verified if they are from mailing lists. PS. I am on this list so you don't need to CC me unless your email client forces it. - -- [Mika

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/05/12 16:38, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 23.05.2012 16:24, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 5/23/12 2:50 AM, Steve wrote: I absolutely agree. At GPGTools we thought about an automatic testing system. Checking if the mail was encrypted and / or

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.05.2012 18:54, Werner Koch wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:35, mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com said: On 23.05.2012 12:56, Steve wrote: I think we had the PGP/MIME vs inline discussion already. I am using PGP/MIME in this email. Can you verify

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/05/12 16:54, Werner Koch wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:35, mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com said: On 23.05.2012 12:56, Steve wrote: I think we had the PGP/MIME vs inline discussion already. I am using PGP/MIME in this email. Can you verify

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 5/23/12 11:38 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Why to move it to Enigmail list? According to American legend, a journalist once asked the infamous bank robber John Dillinger why he robbed banks for a living. Because that's where the money is, he said. Why should a discussion about Adele move

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Steve
Hey David et all, first: GPGTools Installer does indeed contain Enigmail and allows installation. Not sure if it has the latest version since Mozilla's crazy versioning means lots of maintenance and we couldn't find a way to automate including new Enigmail versions. Also not sure if it is

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 23 May 2012 12:30:54 +0300 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Mika, I cannot verify your signature, because you use PGP/MIME and this mailing list uses mailing list software which somehow messes up with headers and makes PGP/MIME signatures unverifiable.

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption AKA PGP/MIME

2012-05-23 Thread Charly Avital
Mika Suomalainen 4fbd03cb.1070...@hotmail.com May 23, 2012 12:38:40 PM wrote: I am using PGP/MIME in this email. Can you verify my signature on this email? You can find link to my public key in my signature. Good signature from Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com Key ID: 0x82A46728

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-23 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 5/23/12 3:07 PM, da...@gbenet.com wrote: Now I have 3 Linux Laptops. I started testing Linux distros with gpg2 - enigmail with Thunderbird - all 100 per cent Openpgp failed to initialise with pgp2 and in fact Openpgp always signed to my private key not my public key when using percipient

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 5/22/12 2:06 PM, Robin Kipp wrote: Now, I'd really like to test out EMail encryption so that I can verify this works properly, but for that, of course, I need one other party also using GPG. (Responded to on-list so that people can know your request has been answered, otherwise you'll get

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-22 Thread Robin Kipp
Hello all, thanks a lot for that! Actually, I'm quite flattered by the amount of encrypted messages that came in over the last few minutes from all of you who wanted to help, I honestly wouldn't have expected so much feedback! I'll definitely reply to all of you who took the time and effort to

Re: Testing GPG EMail encryption

2012-05-22 Thread Hauke Laging
Am Di 22.05.2012, 23:37:46 schrieb Robin Kipp: Hello all, thanks a lot for that! Actually, I'm quite flattered by the amount of encrypted messages that came in over the last few minutes from all of you who wanted to help I am happy for him but obviously this approach doesn't scale well. :-)