Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List

2023-05-04 Thread Jeremy Gibbons
The purpose of this list is specified on its webpage:

> The Haskell mailing list is for announcements and short discussions on any 
> topic related to the Haskell language. 
> 
> Discussions should be moved to the Haskell Cafe mailing list after a few 
> exchanges, so that the volume on this list can be kept low.

We don’t (please!) need another list for announcements. 

Perhaps there is scope for a discussion about how “related” a conference 
announcement should be for it to be announced here. And perhaps there is scope 
for a discussion about the name: maybe this list should be renamed 
haskell-announce, for expectation management? But if so, those discussions 
should presumably happen on haskell-cafe, not here.

Jeremy

> On 4 May 2023, at 10:33, James Flanagan  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for this tip. Wasn't aware of Haskell-Cafe.
> 
> Maybe this is the right place for conference announcements then, if it's just 
> for announcements in general. But the quantity is quite high and other stuff 
> is likely to get drowned out. It may be best split into a separate list so 
> that it only goes to those who are interested. (Not all of us are in 
> academia.)
> 
> James
> 
> From: Haskell  <mailto:haskell-boun...@haskell.org>> on behalf of Ivan Perez 
> mailto:ivanperezdoming...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: 01 May 2023 22:45
> To: Dominic Steinitz mailto:domi...@steinitz.org>>
> Cc: haskell@haskell.org <mailto:haskell@haskell.org>  <mailto:haskell@haskell.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List
>  
> Most people are just subscribed to haskell-cafe instead. If you are not 
> there, maybe that's the one you want to be subscribed to.
> 
> In the past I have reported such conference announcements so that the 
> specific individuals be removed from the list.
> 
> Ivan
> 
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 02:34, Dominic Steinitz  <mailto:domi...@steinitz.org>> wrote:
> I have been subscribed to this list for over 20 years but these days all I 
> ever see are announcements of conferences which have at best a tangential 
> relationship with Haskell. Maybe it is time to call it a day?
> 
> Dominic Steinitz
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Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List

2023-05-04 Thread James Flanagan
Thank you for this tip. Wasn't aware of Haskell-Cafe.

Maybe this is the right place for conference announcements then, if it's just 
for announcements in general. But the quantity is quite high and other stuff is 
likely to get drowned out. It may be best split into a separate list so that it 
only goes to those who are interested. (Not all of us are in academia.)

James


From: Haskell  on behalf of Ivan Perez 

Sent: 01 May 2023 22:45
To: Dominic Steinitz 
Cc: haskell@haskell.org 
Subject: Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List

Most people are just subscribed to haskell-cafe instead. If you are not there, 
maybe that's the one you want to be subscribed to.

In the past I have reported such conference announcements so that the specific 
individuals be removed from the list.

Ivan

On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 02:34, Dominic Steinitz 
mailto:domi...@steinitz.org>> wrote:
I have been subscribed to this list for over 20 years but these days all I ever 
see are announcements of conferences which have at best a tangential 
relationship with Haskell. Maybe it is time to call it a day?

Dominic Steinitz
domi...@steinitz.org<mailto:domi...@steinitz.org>
http://idontgetoutmuch.org
Twitter: @idontgetoutmuch

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Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List

2023-05-03 Thread Thorsten Wißmann
Hi all,

I agree: I wondered too what the point (or better say 'scope') of this
list is. I say this as someone who sent multiple conference
announcements / CFPs to this list ('CALCO' / 'CMCS' from coalg.org if
you're interested ☺). Before sending the CFPs, it wasn't clear whether
it is appropriate or might be considered annoying or even spam. So I
definitely welcome some criteria, which could be put on:

https://www.haskell.org/mailing-lists/

In particular, I'd find it helpful to have the following questions
answered there:

  - When sending call for papers, which topics are in scope? (functional
programming in general? "software"? Category theory? "Math"?..)
  - Are deadline extensions or further follow-up mails allowed? (e.g.
call for participation?)

Whether cfp-senders stick to these rules is then a separate issue, which
can be solved by blocking repeated off-topic announcements. My personal
intention is to advertise, of course, but only among those who might be
potentially interested :-)

Best,
Thorsten

On Mon, May 01, 2023, at 14:45 (-0700), Ivan Perez wrote:
> Most people are just subscribed to haskell-cafe instead. If you are not there,
> maybe that's the one you want to be subscribed to.
> In the past I have reported such conference announcements so that the specific
> individuals be removed from the list.
> Ivan
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 02:34, Dominic Steinitz <[1]domi...@steinitz.org> wrote:
> 
>   I have been subscribed to this list for over 20 years but these days all I
>   ever see are announcements of conferences which have at best a tangential
>   relationship with Haskell. Maybe it is time to call it a day?
>   Dominic Steinitz

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Re: [Haskell] The Point of this List

2023-05-01 Thread Ivan Perez
Most people are just subscribed to haskell-cafe instead. If you are not
there, maybe that's the one you want to be subscribed to.

In the past I have reported such conference announcements so that the
specific individuals be removed from the list.

Ivan

On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 02:34, Dominic Steinitz  wrote:

> I have been subscribed to this list for over 20 years but these days all I
> ever see are announcements of conferences which have at best a tangential
> relationship with Haskell. Maybe it is time to call it a day?
>
> Dominic Steinitz
> domi...@steinitz.org
> http://idontgetoutmuch.org
> Twitter: @idontgetoutmuch
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