Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)

2018-06-29 Thread Denis Ovsienko
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:46:35 +0100 STARK, BARBARA H wrote > Hi Denis, Hello Barbara. I hope you are well. > You appear to have perceived events and statements different from how > others' have perceived these. I agree there is some difference. I do not agree this

Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)

2018-06-29 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> The draft lives here: >> >> https://github.com/jech/babel-drafts/tree/master/draft-decimo-babel-dtls > As far as the commit history goes, the file was first added to the > repository above on 25 June 2018 (four days ago), then it was updated > three times on 27 June 2018 and two times on 29

Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)

2018-06-29 Thread STARK, BARBARA H
Hi Denis, You appear to have perceived events and statements different from how others' have perceived these. I don't find this thread accusing Juliusz of bad behavior to be an appropriate way of addressing your perceptions. As chair of homenet (your email was sent to homenet and babel), I would

Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)

2018-06-29 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Dear Denis, Thank you very much for your kind mail. Unfortunately, I think there might be some confusion: - DTLS is Stenberg-style security; - HMAC is Ovsienko-style security, - it has four variants (7298, 7298bis, DKC, Stenberg) - two of which have fatal flaws (7298 and