Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-19 Thread Brian Westerman
The ASID is available at the point just before the message is sent to the console. Our SyzMPF/z product gets the messages before they go to hardcopy (you can have SyzMPF/z keep them from getting there if you want), and one of the fields that I have access to (and we allow you to use in the

Re: ATTLS configuration

2011-10-19 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson I¹m attempting to enable ATTLS on my z/OS 1.12 and 1.9 systems for the purpose of running secured NJE. I have installed the z/OS Configuration Assistant to create the appropriate policies, created

Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
We don't have that product. And we basically have no money for any new product. But we do have CA-OPS/MVS. Maybe I can pervert it to do that. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225

Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
John,   Yeah, I have been there, what about MPF..I know that was the original point in z/OS where Netview got its messages. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
Yes, I could do that, I suppose. I'm a bit lazy. Also, my manager dislikes non-vendor stuff because who's going to support it if you leave? Which is now hilarious to me. Why? Because we are now running unsupported software and we're having problems with it. Since we don't have source code,

Re: Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database if nuked

2011-10-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
efinnel...@aol.com (Ed Finnell) writes: Thanks for getting us back on track. We used to drift to old hardware and microfiche. Now we drift to polymorphism...sign of the times re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#12 Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database if nuked for the fun of it,

Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF

2011-10-19 Thread Dooley, Robert
Have had both CMF and RMF in house on various customers. RMF gets my vote. CMF always had that bubble gum and baling twine sorta feel to it IMHO. Options are good and I'm glad it's there for people who cant afford RMF. --

Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The following has been posed by one of our mainframe users. QUESTION: What options (if any) are available for migrating these old study files and contents of accounts to storage media such as DVDs and external hard drives that could be securely held (off-line) by the agencies? Looking at the

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-10-19 17:08, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] pisze: The following has been posed by one of our mainframe users. QUESTION: What options (if any) are available for migrating these old study files and contents of accounts to storage media such as DVDs and external hard drives that

Re: DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-19 Thread J Ellis
We are worried about exhausting esqa during early NIP, we are adding 10+ DS8800 devices on the next IPL. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-19 Thread Field, Alan C.
Then you need to review your use of the INITSQA parm in your LOADxx member. e.g. INITSQA K 0512K -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J Ellis Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:04 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject:

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
Dave, This is a data migration problem, something very common in mainframe migration/modernization projects. There are ETL tools (Extract-Transform-Load) to help with doing such projects. But first you need to establish the goal of migrating the data. From what you describe, I could see

Question for Big Shops Using CICS PA

2011-10-19 Thread Bill Blaney
First off, I've already sent the following to the CICS-L listerv. I figured I check in with my fellow dinosaurs at IBM-MAIN... A client of mine is interested in bringing in CICS Performance Analyzer for historical reporting. They are a huge shop (40M CICS trans/day) and in the past have run

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
Dave, In 2006 I did a project in Ohio to offload a bunch of data files to MS SQL. They had completed a SAP implementation, but had not bothered to deal with all the historical data left behind on the old mainframe. They had VSAM files, QSAM disk files, thousands of tapes, and even a few IMS

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Data offload to DVDs or external drives The following has been posed by

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
John, Thank you to all who have responded. Looking at the supplied HLQ, all of the VSAM appear to be KSDS. I believe the intent is to remove the data from the mainframe and subsequently access it using PC SAS, if necessary. Dave O'Brien -Original Message- From: McKown, John

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:08:09 -0400, O'Brien, David W. wrote: What options (if any) are available for migrating these old study files and contents of accounts to storage media such as DVDs and external hard drives that could be securely held (off-line) by the agencies? If you really mean DVD,

Re: DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:04:26 -0500, J Ellis jerry.el...@libertymutual.com wrote: We are worried about exhausting esqa during early NIP, we are adding 10+ DS8800 devices on the next IPL. (sorry if this post is a duplicate) 10+ or 10K devices being added?Do you already have something

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
Tom: What ever media is decided on remember this. The life expectancy (readability) is at most 10 years for DVD and CD's . I had a long discussion with an expert and he just does not have a satisfactory answer (IMO) for anything long term. I suspect tape (even IBM's tape drives) to be iffy at

IBM Mainframes upgrade Cycle Weakens

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/10/17/ibm_q3_2011_numbers/ IBM's mainframe upgrade cycle weakens * *   *   *   * Power Systems, software fill in most of the gap in Q3 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/10/17/ibm_q3_2011_numbers/

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives Tom: What ever media is decided on remember this.

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Responding to Ed's comments: At least if the data is under HSM control, it (the data) gets recycled to newer media every time the tape media changes. The same cannot be said for the private media be it tape or DVD that my user seems to have in mind. -Original Message- From: McKown,

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:21:14 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: IBM DVD media is not very reliable. I meant to write IMO DVD media is not very reliable. I don't know how my fingers wrote IBM or why my eyes didn't catch the error. And when I say that it is not very reliable, I'm not just talking

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
The life expectancy (readability) is at most 10 years for DVD and CD's . Whenever you are archiving data, you need to ask the question: what is the expected Standard of Care. IMO, data archival is often a CYA proposition. You may think that the data is a bunch of old junk, but you are unsure

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Barry Merrill
With the reference to moving data files from z/OS to an ASCII platform and intending to read that archived data, for any binary file, that is, a file that can contain non-pure-text data, the PGM=FTP on z/OS will delete ALL of the BDWs and RDWs from any dataset with RECFM=V or VB or VBS, and you

Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment

2011-10-19 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
I have a developer that is not being able to make a call to SETENV from within Cobol (Cobol snippet: call 'setenv' using envname,...). I found that the C routines in the LE run time environment must be available. Does anybody know what I need to check in the linklist/lpa to make sure that Cobol

Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
Uriel,   You can call BPXWDYN real easy from Cobol, I think there are a lot of examples if you google 'z/OS BPXWDYN '   Regards,  Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To:

z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
To all:   I need to know the dataset names of the files that are allocated (DD stmts) of a STC. Can some one point me to the initial CB, I looked at TCB , do I assume this is the place to start ?   Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com

Tape Retention period for coop site

2011-10-19 Thread Richard Sceniak
I've been asked to find out what the industry standard is for the length of time to keep a backup tape for coop purposes. Obviously, in a coop situation, one would use the most current backup tape but how many versions of backup tapes need to be kept and when is a tape too old to be of any

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
My little subprog: *** *SUBROUTINE TO OBTAIN SYSTEM INFORMATION * *** GETJINFO CSECT GETJINFO AMODE 31 GETJINFO RMODE ANY LENTRY

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
I need to know the dataset names of the files that are allocated (DD stmts) of a STC. Can some one point me to the initial CB, I looked at TCB , do I assume this is the place to start ? Start with the PSA at absolute address zero (IHAPSA). Field PSATOLD contains the address of the current

Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
SCEELKED contains SETENV and PUTENV. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OS Control block question To all:   I need to know the dataset names of the files that are

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
The solution I suggested presumes that you are adding code to the STC program itself (inside looking out). If you are on the outside looking in (i.e. another task wants to see what resources the STC is using), then my solution won't work, since most of the control blocks are in the private

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/19/2011 5:29 PM, Roberts, John J wrote: My little subprog: SR1,1 ICM 1,B'0111',TIOEJFCB LOCATE JFCB MVC 10(44,15),16(1) This always works only in older systems. For current ones, the TIOEJFCB field is a double index into SQA, and you need to use

Re: Tape Retention period for coop site

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
Good time to ask a lawyer as they would/should now. It is federal and state laws. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
Guys and Gals,   Thank you ,Thank you , so much appreciated Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: Re: z/OS Control

Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
Probably C would be a lot easier if you are comfortable in C to write it. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:33 PM Subject:

Re: Tape Retention period for coop site

2011-10-19 Thread Cosby, Bob - OCFO
Our standard for offsite DR tapes is 14 versions or 14 days which for us is a complete pay cycle. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Sceniak Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

LDAP from C with CINET - z/OS 1.11 xposted

2011-10-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
I am calling ldap_xxx services from (ref IBM Tivoli Directory Server Client Programming for z/OS) from IBM C. I have a CINET environment, the ldap calls are working fine using my default TCPIP region. In my RTM, I haven't found a way to tell the ldap_xxx to use one of the other TCPIP(n)

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
David, Great reply. Thank you for pointing this out. As a small side question (I have never had to do this) how does one identify tapes that need recycling? I have just done recycles on percent valid and was never worried about doing it based on device type. Ed

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
John, Come on egypt tech??? And certain types of paper can last with the proper conditions can last a few hundred years but when we are talking IT we are talking machine readable. Ed Ps OCR is not an option. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
I just ran a test using my z/OS 1.11 system and it worked. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS Control block question On

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Scott Ford
Thank you John Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:38 PM Subject: Re: z/OS Control block question I just ran a test using my

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Roberts, John J
Why not print it all out? Then get an army of Monks to transcribe to archival parchment scrolls using quill pens and an ink formula from about 2000 years ago. Seal the results into ceramic pottery vessels and place in a cave, somewhere near the Dead Sea. Roll a big rock in front of the cave

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 676130350.1050634.1318977735961.javamail.r...@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net, on 10/18/2011 at 10:42 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net said: If you take the all of the VSAM datasets off of the volume, you can delete the VVDS ObNVR it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c005da...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us, on 10/19/2011 at 04:29 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us said: Start with the PSA at absolute address zero No. In fact, he can't. He should start with virtual address zero, which will map into real address

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c005da...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us, on 10/19/2011 at 04:29 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us said: My little subprog: Won't work if SWA is above the line. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Help with Tape Hardware Issue TS3500

2011-10-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1867132420.1042181.1318969175813.javamail.r...@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net, on 10/18/2011 at 08:19 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net said: We used to have a 3494 ATL.  We had it for over 10 years.  A couple of times, we had a tape go missing with last status of being in

Re: Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database is nuked

2011-10-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAPD5F5q14Cf+DXY3KF7hV7TGqt1S9irb5-EHdBEFJHTd89S=c...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/18/2011 at 12:29 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said: I would not write a program that had embedded in it the heroic assumption that a time value was a time value for some current day (bad) and time

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Mike Schwab
You can also specify volsers. Very useful if one is damaged. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:  David, Great reply. Thank you for pointing this out. As a small side question (I have never  had to do this) how does one identify tapes that need recycling? I

Re: Data offload to DVDs or external drives

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Gould
John. I know you are kidding, right? Have you seen some pictures f the scrolls? They are not easily readable cracked with age and the only thing that helped save them was the lack of humidity in the desert. Now I realize. There are people that have partially that deciphered them but we are

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 19:18 -0500 on 10/19/2011, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: z/OS Control block question: field TIOEJFCB contains a three byte address No. It contains an SVA. While I believe that SWAREQ is the easiest way to get to the JFCB, the documentation says not to use it but to use RDJFCB.

Re: z/OS Control block question

2011-10-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/19/2011 6:38 PM, Roberts, John J wrote: I just ran a test using my z/OS 1.11 system and it worked. And a stopped clock is correct twice a day. If I had a dollar for every problem in your little code segment, I could buy something nice at Starbucks. 1. There is no check to handle