Re: Cross Memory Services with AXSET and SSAR.

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:30:19 +, Cannaerts, Jan jan.cannae...@socmut.be wrote: As for my problem; I have made a small test program that holds a piece of storage paged in memory, it spits out the virtual address to that piece of memory on sysprint so that I can easily retrieve it. Calling

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Scott Ford
All, See this thread ...Charles this is the one I spoke about... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/bit.listserv.ibm-main/tR7c3Pi9pFI/tnp_CEFOh-IJ Regards, Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:52 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Binyamin

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Well, the temp-dsn pattern will probably only change with z/OS releases, so it will (only) be another item on that checklist. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:34

Re: Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2015 Edition

2015-03-17 Thread Scott Ford
Lizette and Elardus , The article I skimmed and will read more later. I agree. Sometimes one learns bad habits or techniques because of exposure and rush to get things done . I suffer from this horrible illness and have been trying to correct it through questions and research. Regards, Scott On

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:14:56 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a thought (and it's lonely). You start off APF authorized, key 8 as a normal APF program. You want to run program B from the STEPLIB, but without APF authorization. Perhaps the simplest way is to use

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1169475919541461.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/16/2015 at 04:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: I don't think so; if I were to relink IEBCOPY with AC(1) into an authorized library, it would work equally well when called from an

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:40:51 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 5c91d5e7-95b6-439d-87a7-111003a2f...@comcast.net, on 03/16/2015 at 10:52 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:19:56 -0400, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 10:52, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, after this snippet the authorized section cannot trust the contents of any key8 storage. Yes, I can see how that can be true. Of

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:14:56 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a thought (and it's lonely). You start off APF authorized, key 8 as a normal APF program. You want to run program B from

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In d3571c7d425590479eb3adb197bfc47b03932...@m4ukex02.intranet.macro4.com, on 03/17/2015 at 09:45 AM, Steve Austin steve.aus...@macro4.com said: any quotes I put around the dsn are ignored Presumably the command operand of bpxwunix is subject to shell parsing, for which quotes and apostrophes

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:05:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: When I whined about the (how?) in connection with SMP/E a few years ago, before I knew even what little I now suspect about the nature of the weakness, Walt replied with words similar to reasonable caution. I take

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 March 2015 at 10:52, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, after this snippet the authorized section cannot trust the contents of any key8 storage. Yes, I can see how that can be true. Of course, I don't know of a _good_ method to ensure memory protection from a

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9542953551899120.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/16/2015 at 02:25 PM, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Furthermore, if it were not designed to be invoked in an authorized environment, it should not be included in an APF authorized load

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:30:33 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: SMP/E has a head start: the DDDEF list could be passed to the child process, And those allocations that are in the JCL? Are any necessary? -- gil -- For

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b08549f0b5dc9644a4b897a29c64751a6640e...@monexch01.na.lzb.hq, on 03/17/2015 at 04:12 PM, Jerry Criste jerry.cri...@la-z-boy.com said: KBMS, has been unsupported since 2000, and is critical to the business. Why didn't you replace it while you had time? Here's some detail pulled from Fault

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8873067969180921.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/17/2015 at 12:09 PM, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: If that is the case, it is loaded into key zero storage that is not retch protected. If that is the case, you will S0C1 when you store

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0281165305245017.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/17/2015 at 12:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: SMP/E has a head start: the DDDEF list could be passed to the child process, And those allocations that are in the JCL? -- Shmuel

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjhnouonkoeeao9-eccqp5obuypxwnhdo5c+v8vzbgd...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/17/2015 at 01:01 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: SVC 3 (EXIT) does not return to R15 in the RSA, Of course not but (I think, likely more) And documented. Now that I think on it, one could mess

IDC31378I GDG BASE EXTENSION RECORD COUNT IS ZERO, BUT GDG EXTENSION

2015-03-17 Thread Ravi Gaur
Has anybody figure out a way to actively do run some process to identify the IDC31378I GDG BASE EXTENSION RECORD COUNT IS ZERO, BUT GDG EXTENSION condition in catalog? with gdg base name I see with diagnose we do see this message however there's definately a name which is needed for the GDG

Re: IDC31378I GDG BASE EXTENSION RECORD COUNT IS ZERO, BUT GDG EXTENSION

2015-03-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
This will depend on your z/OS Level I found two APARs that might be of interest OA44642: IDC31379I DOES NOT LIST THE GDG WITH THE EXTENSION CELL COUNT MISMATCH DFSMS V21 users affect. MSGIDC31378I and MSGIDC31379I do not display the GDG BASE name in error, users could not determine which GDG

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
You can test it with the test-mode of ISMF option 7.4. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 17 March, 2015 1:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing I am trying

Re: HMC Integrated console and JAVA

2015-03-17 Thread Alan Field
Thanks to those who suggested checking for pop-ups etc. None of that worked. After seeing the post about an open PMR where IBM acknowledged problems with JAVA 8 I uninstalled it and went back to JAVA7_21. Now my integrated console and operating system messages are available again. Alan

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
The listing indicates the @MEMALOC csect is AMODE 31. The calling program is listed as AMODE 24. Assuming the LINK in the first program is to @MEMALOC, it seems the contents of R2 at the time of the abend is part of some sort of save area passed by the AMODE 24 program, but now interpreted as a

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Graham Harris
Would checking the DDNAME and/or PROGRAM help? On 17 March 2015 at 15:10, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: Well, the temp-dsn pattern will probably only change with z/OS releases, so it will (only) be another item on that checklist. Kees. -Original Message-

Looking for Miklos Szigetvari

2015-03-17 Thread Chuck Arney
Listers please forgive me for using the list for this purpose but I am looking to contact Miklos Szigetvari and his email address is now rejected. Miklos, if you are still monitoring the list would you please email me. Or, if anyone else knows a new email address for him that you could share,

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:43:14 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: All of the above is very true. But as I understand the original problem, it is how to run untrusted code in the same address space as APF authorized code. IMO, this, in and of itself, is a possible? integrity

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:28:29 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Being a paranoid heretic, I would go the UNIX route and figure out a way to run the untrusted code in a child process in

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:01:42 -0500, John McKown wrote: SVC 3 (EXIT) does not return to R15 in the RSA, but (I think, likely more) ... OK. I had it backwards. Dredging my memory, I believe the subtask is entered with R14 pointing to an SVC 3. And some rogue vendors, I have heard, modify that

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:58:16 +0100, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: May an ignorant peek in here... :) Just as a concept and theoretically; wouldn't a way to secure that the key 8 storage is untouched is to save a hash of the content in system key area (with a random salt) ? Then

Re: accounting packages

2015-03-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
CA-Masterpiece is a full blown z/OS accounting package. Dun Bradstreet also had the Millennium software. Not sure if still available. SAP also cover off financials. Mincom (now Ventyx) also have an offering (Ellipse). On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:

using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Steve Austin
I'm using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run an XMIT (see below). This works, but I've been unable to prevent the TSO PREFIX, being added to dataset name; any quotes I put around the dsn are ignored. Neither have I been able to set NOPREFIX. Is there a way to prevent the suffix being added? Thanks

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Austin wrote: I'm using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run an XMIT (see below). This works, but I've been unable to prevent the TSO PREFIX, being added to dataset name; any quotes I put around the dsn are ignored. Neither have I been able to set NOPREFIX. Is there a way to prevent the suffix

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again using Standard ATTACH (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Clement Clarke
For decades, the IBM standard initiator has used a special form of ATTACH to allow Authorized programs to execute via JCL.  The replacement JCL and Clist language I invented (Jol - see www.Oscar-Jol.com) and a more recent set of programs I wrote to allow Long Parms (3,000 characters) and Symbolic

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: snip Sigh. Cf. UNIX, which certainly doesn't let exit() branch to a user-modifiable address. A better designed END SVC would branch, not to the R15 in a key 8 RSA, but to a caller's

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:01:42 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: snip Sigh. Cf. UNIX, which certainly doesn't let exit() branch to a user-modifiable address. A better

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Charles Mills
it is loaded into key zero storage that is not retch protected. If that is the case, you will S0C1 when you store into it. Which will definitely make it retch. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:14:33 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: it is loaded into key zero storage that is not retch protected. If that is the case, you will S0C1 when you store into it. Oops. I meant to write S0C4 -- Tom Marchant Which will definitely make it retch. Charles -Original

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The PSW which is contained in the Fault Analyser Reports shows that the AMODE at the time of error is 31 (see 99... at the leftmost part of the instruction address), so the address in R2 is in fact treated as a 31 bit address. But the main task seems to be at RMODE 24 and was probably AMODE 24.

Re: zSeries HMC forcible disconnect issue - anybody seen this one before?

2015-03-17 Thread Don Williams
I opened a PMR and found that IBM is working on a Java 8 issue. They do not have an ETA for a fix. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ambros, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Being a paranoid heretic, I would go the UNIX route and figure out a way to run the untrusted code in a child process in another address space by using fork() and, likely, attach_execmvs(). And I again

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:01:42 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Now that I think on it, one could mess up the rogue programs attempts to modify an RSA by deliberately messing up the savearea chain pointers in the save area pointed to by TCBFSA to defeat forward save area

Re: HMC Integrated console and JAVA

2015-03-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/17/2015 12:17 PM, Alan Field wrote: After seeing the post about an open PMR where IBM acknowledged problems with JAVA 8 I uninstalled it and went back to JAVA7_21. Now my integrated console and operating system messages are available again. I had the same issue just yesterday. I tried

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjgyexftzmrwu-geynan_9wbojog1jk35qbebr8mfp3...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/17/2015 at 09:14 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I just had a thought (and it's lonely). It's not my dog. Violating system integrity is easy. Safely doing what Charlesv wanted is much more

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjijjgpxfxevytorprbl-qzj7tqphpswo9bw3g_gjje...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/17/2015 at 08:53 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: I think the original design was to allow an type 3 or 4 SVC to invoke some used supplied code, and do so in TCB key / problem state. And then still

Remaining Mainframes

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Kern
I am looking to find any remaining Mainframe systems in the Department of Energy? If you are running one, please let me know who you are. /Thomas Kern /On Contract to DOE Headquarters /301-903-2211 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: But TCBFSA points to one of the more interesting areas for the rogue program to modify :) That is why you copy the 72 bytes pointed to by it to another area and zero those 72 bytes while other perhap rogue is running.

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:58:16 +0100 Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: : -Original Message- : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of : Walt Farrell : Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:18 PM : To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU : Subject: Re:

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Mike Schwab
At our site we use DATACLAS=special to direct a dataset to a specific storage group. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: Would checking the DDNAME and/or PROGRAM help? On 17 March 2015 at 15:10, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjgEqM=ny94cfmkafhue_fbtvv7tueaphy8284_2m5u...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/17/2015 at 08:40 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: IMO, it would be easier to just use ATTACHX with the JSCB= pointing to a copy of the current task's JSCB with the APF bit flipped off. Why? You

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Steve Austin steve.aus...@macro4.com wrote: Thanks Elardus, but however many quotes I insert they are appear to be ignored. I've tried the command from OMVS and get the same result (see below). Steve Example output from an actual UNIX command line prompt (not

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks Elardus, but however many quotes I insert they are appear to be ignored. I've tried the command from OMVS and get the same result (see below). Steve /bin/tsocmd XMIT ZOS113.SA 'DS('SA2.DMXPORT.F5') £ /bin/tsocmd XMIT ZOS113.SA 'DS('SA2.DMXPORT.F5')' XMIT

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:39:49 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Old trap for anyone trying string parsing... I sometimes fall in that trap too. ;-) I did, several times, trying to find a solution. And you can't do a TRACE to see how lines are parsed and resolved... ouch... trace R helps for

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Austin wrote: Thanks Elardus, but however many quotes I insert they are appear to be ignored. I've tried the command from OMVS and get the same result (see below). So I see after that IKJ message. I assume you do it interactively. Replace /bin/tsocmd XMIT ZOS113.SA

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: And you can't do a TRACE to see how lines are parsed and resolved... ouch... trace R helps for Rexx, but not entirely' set -x works for shell. Thanks. So I found out the hard way... It's even worse. I got it to work with: cmd = set -x; /bin/tsocmd XMIT target

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Steve Austin
/bin/tsocmd XMIT ZOS113.SA DS('SA2.DMXPORT.F5') Gives; £ /bin/tsocmd XMIT ZOS113.SA DS('SA2.DMXPORT.F5') FSUM7332 syntax error: got (, expecting Newline £ DDNAME is not an option, as ultimately I want this to work using bpwxunix and the dataset will not be allocated in the address spaces

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Steve Austin
Don't quote me, but I now have it working as described. Thanks for your help! Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 17 March 2015 12:37 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: using

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Austin wrote: Don't quote me, but I now have it working as described. Thanks for your help! You're most welcome, but I believe Paul should get the credits for helping out. About quotes, it reminds me of this old school joke: Teacher: 'Hey, Pete, why are all your answers in quotes?'

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5c91d5e7-95b6-439d-87a7-111003a2f...@comcast.net, on 03/16/2015 at 10:52 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: Legally no but it can be done . You can, legally, turn APF off and later turn it off. It should be done the way porcupines make love: very carefully. -- Shmuel

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 5c91d5e7-95b6-439d-87a7-111003a2f...@comcast.net, on 03/16/2015 at 10:52 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: Legally no but it can be done . You can, legally, turn APF off and later turn

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Legally no but it can be done . You can, legally, turn APF off and later turn it off. Turn it off and then again off? Or is there a typo in what you wrote? It should be done the way porcupines make love: very carefully. Or if you're male and in a wrong specie,

Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2015 Edition

2015-03-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Interesting article that covers both midrange and mainframe platforms http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/generic.asp?pageid=3750 http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/generic.asp?pageid=3750country=Uni ted+Statesutm_medium=emailutm_source=email

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ca+qm759umgfno+gbxqsgyni1r5uej7dkcdkdzdbnkai...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/16/2015 at 07:10 PM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com said: I did a quick google on JSCBAUTH and long thread in 2010...very interesting several people mentioned to SYNC and LINK to perform authorized calls unless I

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CA+qM75_YCpXgMjXrqx=hcbif-qhjktvhz7eunmkcej56pxj...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/16/2015 at 06:20 PM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com said: can you turn off APF authorization and turn back on ? Easily? Yes. Safely? Only with great care. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In ca+qm759umgfno+gbxqsgyni1r5uej7dkcdkdzdbnkai...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/16/2015 at 07:10 PM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com said: I did a quick google on JSCBAUTH and long thread in

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2128103613061808.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/17/2015 at 07:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: cmd = set -x; /bin/tsocmd XMIT target DS('dsn') I see it now; your original code had the apostrophes around DS(foo) instead of just

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Greg Shirey
I don't think there's anything wrong with the logic, but you know that most attributes of a DATACLAS can be overridden. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday,

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: However, I have always been reluctant to set any TEMP DSN different than other TEMP DSNs. I will also be reluctant. The other issue is the consistency for the temp DSN pattern. If anything changes, this code will no longer work. (Sigh) Can you force them to be not

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I don't really know but my logic goes like this: You can only turn JCSBAUTH back on if you are key 0, otherwise you will S0C4. So you could set key 0, and then turn JSCBAUTH off, do stuff, and then turn it back on again

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Of course, after this snippet the authorized section cannot trust the contents of any key8 storage. On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:14:56 -0500 John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: :On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: : I don't really know but my logic goes

Re: using bpxwunix with tsocmd to run XMIT

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:27:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 03/17/2015 at 07:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: cmd = set -x; /bin/tsocmd XMIT target DS('dsn') I see it now; your original code had the apostrophes around DS(foo) instead of just around the dsn. And the parentheses

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes, that I understand. However, I have always been reluctant to set any TEMP DSN different than other TEMP DSNs. But this is a unique case and I am hoping this will resolve the issue. The other issue is the consistency for the temp DSN pattern. If anything changes, this code will no longer

Re: Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2015 Edition

2015-03-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: Interesting article that covers both midrange and mainframe platforms Indeed. Some of my old skills should be staying in prehistoric times like programming in Clarion and Clipper. You've gotta move on, just what that article suggests. I had to drop them because of

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 7:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized

Re: SMS ACS and TEMP DSN Parsing

2015-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Overriding DC space can be prevented by the 'override space' attribute (yes/no). Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: Of course, after this snippet the authorized section cannot trust the contents of any key8 storage. Yes, I can see how that can be true. Of course, I don't know of a _good_ method to ensure memory protection

S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Jerry Criste
Hello, We are experiencing an S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13. The application is known as KBMS, has been unsupported since 2000, and is critical to the business. We are working on a replacement, but full implementation is still several months away. We have experienced problems with

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread John McKown
The problem is R2: R2: 4F1D6048 (Storage invalid) If you have a dump that you can actually look at, see if there is something reasonable at 001D6048. Otherwise, you'll need to try to backtrack where this value came from. If the data at address 001D6048 looks reasonable, then you need to figure

Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Turning JSCBAUTH off and back on again (Was: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...))

Re: S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2015-03-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:12:53 +, Jerry Criste wrote: Hello, We are experiencing an S0C4 abend after upgrading to z/OS 1.13. I can't read your Fault Analyzer report because of the formatting. You didn't say what release of z/OS you were coming from, but one possibility is that your code is

Re: IEBCOPYO (was: APF-authorized ...)

2015-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:07:37 -0500, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: It is not specifically that the programs may misbehave, but that the users may misbehave. If you trust the users not to misbehave, then you can safely let them run the program. If you don't trust them, then you