Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 20/04/2024 12:41 am, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: It is an attempt to apply dynamic typing to reduce the need to write the explicit type. This service gets carried out by the compiler. In true dynamically typed languages you can reuse variables like "start" or "tmp" to refer to values of

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 20/04/2024 1:42 am, Jay Maynard wrote: Agreed Java is simply far too complex a language and ecosystem to hold in the mind. Python is as ubiquitous and much easier to deal with. Really? What do you NEED to learn for Java that you don't need to learn for other languages? public static void

Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0

2024-04-19 Thread Peter Relson
The assertion of the subject is surely not correct. I do not choose to guess in just what way. Perhaps more important, the ALESERV is likely creating a system integrity violation in specifying access=public. Please take to heart the comment on ASSBSTKN: As with other ASCB/ASSB fields,

Re: Value in SDWAEC1

2024-04-19 Thread Peter Relson
I think the comment in SDWAEC1 is quite clear: Extended control PSW at time of error(abend). When the error was a program interrupt within transactional execution, this is the PSW at the time of the program interrupt within the transaction. It means what it says. When you mention an RB, it is

Re: Big LPAR vs small LPAR and DataSharing.

2024-04-19 Thread Paul Feller
First, I'm not a performance expert. Here are my thoughts. Based on what information you have provided it would seem you are talking one CEC. The environment I last worked at we had two CECs and we did Db2 data sharing with Db2 systems spread across both CECs. From time to time, we would look

Re: zOSMF startup on 3.1

2024-04-19 Thread Jousma, David
Seems to say here that you need JAVA V17 on z/OS V3.1: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=installation-software-requirements-running-zos-31 If you already have that installed, just change your JAVA_HOME and give it a shot. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

Re: Converting TCPIP DEVICE and LINK statements in preparation for z/OS 3.1

2024-04-19 Thread Albertus de Wet
Thank you. Your VIPA conversion is correct. I just tested on my Test LPAR. According to IBM IUTSAMEH can stay were it in the TCPIP parms definition and it will not be required by V3.1 TCP/ip to be converted. And yes, it apparently do get defined by VTAM automagically by specifying IPCONFIG

zOSMF startup on 3.1

2024-04-19 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hello list, Just IPLed z/OS 3.1 on our sandbox and tried to start zOSMF. The angel process started but the server process fails. I compared file permissions in the /global/zosmf directories between my 2.4 system and 3.1 system and they're the same. The server is failing in the IZUSVR1 step

Re: How to turn off an OPERLOG filter before getting into SDSF LOG

2024-04-19 Thread Michael Oujesky
Create a backup copy of your profile without the filter, then overlay your current profile with the backup before entering SDSF? Michael At 12:40 PM 4/18/2024, Collinson, Shannon wrote: I keep hosing myself up by setting an operlog filter to find very specific needles-in-the-haystack and

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Bob Bridges
Oh, I dunno. Generalizations aren't invalid as long as you don't mistake them for blanket stereotypes, and generalizations are the only possible way to describe general groups. I see no cause for offense here. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Be kind whenever

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why don't you speak for yourself instead of inventing urban legends? Both old timers and youngsters are individuals, with vast panoplies of different attitudes and opinions. It is presumptuous and rude to make such arrogant blanket characterizations. There are plenty of old timers who like the

Re: Not getting IBM-MAIN Email

2024-04-19 Thread Phil Smith III
More: One of the folks who was having problems writes: >I gave up on using my pacbell.net email...I switched my Assembler list >and IBM MAIN list to my .gmail email address and all is well. I looked, and pacbell.net has no SPF record. Remember, mine started flowing once I had enabled SPF,

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-19 Thread Itschak Mugzach
In my specific case, it is all English (IBMish). *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**:

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Jay Maynard
Agreed Java is simply far too complex a language and ecosystem to hold in the mind. Python is as ubiquitous and much easier to deal with. On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 10:25 AM David Crayford < 0595a051454b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I’m not sure I would use Java as a REXX alternative

Re: grep ascii files...

2024-04-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
It depends on the language and the context. I'm not conversant with Arabic, but Hebrew uses both, as does English. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread David Crayford
I’m not sure I would use Java as a REXX alternative now we have Python. REXX is very much legacy now. The old timers love it because it’s all they know but push come to shove Python is much easier to learn then Java with all the OO cruft. > On 19 Apr 2024, at 7:50 AM, Andrew Rowley > wrote:

Re: SMP/E download anomaly

2024-04-19 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> I have an interesting case what I cannot untangle. I was creating multiple > ORDERSERVER using the same job where downloadmethod="https" is specified, > only the SMPCSI changed. For products like zSecure, MFA, AO, Netview, etc, > the job ran fine and downloaded relevant PTFs, however in case

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Farley, Peter
+1 for the oleinfo utilities Rony points to here. They were a great help to me in crafting and debugging a VBS script I was writing to help automate creation of an Excel report spreadsheet. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rony G. Flatscher Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 9:45

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 19.04.2024 01:50, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 18/04/2024 8:29 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: The mileage of people here vary including the Java people themselves who have started to reduce the need of explicit declarations like the new "var" (imitating JavaScript) instead of strict types or

Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 18.04.2024 15:14, Bob Bridges wrote: I don't often admit it, because I expect to get flamed for it, but in fact when I write in VBA almost all my variables are type VAR - that is, I hardly ever use the Dim statement to assign a type. To introduce an array, sure, or to maintain correct

Re: Is there a free format only Abend-Aid program?

2024-04-19 Thread Tom Marchant
As far as I know there is nothing available outside of the Abend-AID product. Long ago, Abend-AID wrote its report to the SYSUDUMP/SYSABEND DD, but that was changed decades ago. Now, Abend-AID writes its reports to a VSAM sat set in a proprietary format. Assuming that the report was sent to

Re: Big LPAR vs small LPAR and DataSharing.

2024-04-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 19.04.2024 o 10:32, Massimo Biancucci pisze: Hi everybody, In a presentation at GSE I saw a slide with a graph about the advantage of having more small sysplex LPARs versus a bigger one. So for instance, it's better to have 5 LPARs with 4 processors than one with 20. There was a

SMP/E download anomaly

2024-04-19 Thread Norbert Gál
Hello I have an interesting case what I cannot untangle. I was creating multiple ORDERSERVER using the same job where downloadmethod="https" is specified, only the SMPCSI changed. For products like zSecure, MFA, AO, Netview, etc, the job ran fine and downloaded relevant PTFs, however in case

Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0

2024-04-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
Ok thanks I’ll take a different approach > On Apr 19, 2024, at 4:50 AM, Rob Scott > <0618c90e6fdf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Joseph, > > Are you 100% sure that SDWAPRIM is not actually the same as the current PASN ? > > This might explain R15=0 and the ALET being zero

Re: Big LPAR vs small LPAR and DataSharing.

2024-04-19 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Zero experience. However, as I was reading this I seem to remember that when IBM announced their first 10-way mainframe that Amdahl released a statement that they would never build a mainframe with more than 8 CPU's. Their reasoning was you had diminishing returns once you went beyond 8

Re: Anyone exploiting ZEDC?

2024-04-19 Thread Scott Chapman
Agreed, it's been many years since I ran similar test with our software and don't remember the exact details, but my recollection is that I saw no noticeable change in CPU consumption. Which I remember being particularly interested in because I'd heard of issues reading that compressed data.

SHARE Kansas City - August 4-8

2024-04-19 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Attention all those attending, or planning to attend, the next SHARE in Kansas City #sharekc2024. When you plan your travel don't forget that there are sessions on Thursday afternoon with the last session ending at 4pm. What this means is that if you leave early that you will miss out on the

Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0

2024-04-19 Thread Rob Scott
Joseph, Are you 100% sure that SDWAPRIM is not actually the same as the current PASN ? This might explain R15=0 and the ALET being zero (although I must admit I have never tried ALESERV ADD for the STOKEN of my own PASN before). I still believe you need to revisit your design. Trying to be

Big LPAR vs small LPAR and DataSharing.

2024-04-19 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Hi everybody, In a presentation at GSE I saw a slide with a graph about the advantage of having more small sysplex LPARs versus a bigger one. So for instance, it's better to have 5 LPARs with 4 processors than one with 20. There was a sentence: "It doesn't take an extremely large number of CPUs

Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0

2024-04-19 Thread Rob Scott
Joseph, If I understand your last two posts correctly, you are attempting to add an ASID (that you do not control) using ALESERV CHKEAX=NO to the DU-AL of a unit of work that is abending (possibly for a large variety of reasons outside of your control) in order to add a small amount of