[IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, We have a Compaq DL-360 (2 x 1,33 Ghz, 2 GB RAM) which worked pretty good with about 120 Domains. 2 Weeks ago we added 99 Domains and since then, the server is in under heavy load. The Queue Manager needs more CPU power, more than expected. We have about 1 Mails local deliver per day and

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2007-03-13 Thread Bill Foresman
Your server should be able to handle that just fine IMHO. Of course, this would depend on what virus scanners you’re using, spam filtering, etc… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Schaible Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:25 AM To:

Re: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Doug Traylor
We have a Compaq DL-360 (2 x 1,33 Ghz, 2 GB RAM) which worked pretty good with about 120 Domains. 2 Weeks ago we added 99 Domains and since then, the server is in under heavy load. The Queue Manager needs more CPU power, more than expected. We have about 1 Mails local deliver per day and 3500

[IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Griffith
Hello All, We are planning on upgrading soon from 8.22 and I have a script that runs every week that checks for accounts that are not being used by looking at the lastlog.in file and also the web messaging time stamp in our SQL Server database. That way I check both POP3 logins and Webmail

Re: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Martin, You should be well within the limits of a single server. What else do you have running in terms of spam and virus filtering? I would check for dead blacklists, which can delay mail processing and lead to overload, as well as check your average message processing time in the logs.

Re: [IMail Forum] Control Access Allowed Machine IP Keeps Disappearing

2007-03-13 Thread Jeffery Rehm
I found that if I allow access to a group and put IP in the setting appears to stick, or has so far anyway. I was doing it as a single IP and that wasn't working at all. Sanford Whiteman wrote: Ok, now this is getting annoying... IMail Access Control is set to DENY all computers

Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 to 2006.2 upgrade

2007-03-13 Thread Mauro Lanci
Hi Will, I have tried to upgrade from version 2006.1 to 2006.2 with SQL but it fails as variuos email passwords are deleted once the client try to login and following is the reply from IPSwitch: There is a know defect in the way that has a problem with using SQL as an external database in

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, Thanks for tips. We have Antivirus standard (Bitdefender), mxGuard with INVURI and MessageSniffer. I cleaned up rules.ima for old an unused rules. The file is now below 100k, before it was 160K. I heard, that a big rules.ima could be one reason for big cpu loads. I think, i see the result

Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Mike N
POP3 updates lastlog.in just as before. Web messaging does not update this file, nor the lastlogin field in the database record. Web Messaging updates some .UID files in the user's folder, but I haven't checked to see if web messaging is the only thing that touches these files. Just

Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 to 2006.2 upgrade

2007-03-13 Thread Mike N
Wow! No emergency hotfix? What if you have 500 domains to disable the full mailbox notification and 20,000 users randomly losing passwords? - Original Message - From: Mauro Lanci To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [IMail

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Griffith
Thanks Mike, Kevin had told me about those issues, but we do not use the Full Mailbox notification, so that is not an issue here. I can see where it would be a huge issue though. Thanks for the tip on the web.config update. We are testing all of this on a test box this afternoon with

RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread David Waller
Martin, It should handle 10,000 email easily and well tuned much more than that perhaps 30k + emails a day. However, there are a lot of variables to consider not least how well your hard drives are working especially disk i/o. Have you done all the normal stuff like chkdsk, defrag etc. It pays

Re: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Darin Cox
invURIBL can use a lot of CPU. Does MXGuard have a weighting scenario? If so, can you use Pete McNeil's WeightGate app with it? Doing so could save you from running invURIBL on messages you already know are going to be held/blocked/etc. Also, you might try running Sniffer in persistent mode.

RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 to 2006.2 upgrade

2007-03-13 Thread Kevin Gillis
Hi Mike N, Agreed. we've been working on patch that we plan to release in the next day or so and which we'll roll into the next release as well. bye for now, kg _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:23 To:

RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 to 2006.2 upgrade

2007-03-13 Thread Tripp Allen
The password loss we have observed happens when a user's mailbox is filling and the full mailbox notification is sent to the user. We are working on a replacement DLL now and it will be posted soon. Tripp _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent:

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, We do defrag the d drive every two hours with OO Defrag. Our baby-server has only two drives configured as RAID1. I think, the disks are quited bored, if i look to the SNMP-Monitoring. Also mxGuard, INVURIBL and MessageSniffer do not stress the CPU. It's like always the *QueueManager*.

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi Darin, We're using mxGuard to check the several DNSLBL. All other tests are not in use. What is WeightApp? Mit freundlichen Grüssen --- Merlin Consulting | Martin Schaible Bahnhofstrasse 27 | CH-8702

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Griffith
Can someone at IPSwitch confirm when the .uid files are updated? Thanks, Grant Griffith Web Application Developer Enhanced Telecommunications http://www.etczone.com 812-932-1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent:

Re: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Darin Cox
It's Pete McNeil's (from Message Sniffer). It's available on their website. It allows you to pass an incoming weight to the program and based on that, conditionally execute another program. We use it with Declude to only run invURIBL when the message is within a certain weight range. That

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Tripp Allen
.UID files can be updated anytime the associated mailbox is accessed by any of the IMail services (POP, IMAP, Web Client, Queue Manager etc). Tripp _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Griffith Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:33 PM To:

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Thanks very much, Today is not our day anyway. A guy from the power department tried to test the diesel generator and he cutted of the whole datacenter from power *twice*. Such an idiot. Hundrets of server went down twice. The bad thing was, that the power was partially available , instead of

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Griffith
Thanks for the info Tripp. Therefore you are telling me that I can rely on this .uid file to tell if the mailbox has been accessed at all? Therefore I would be able to ignore the lastlog.in file after upgrading? Thanks, Grant Griffith Web Application Developer Enhanced Telecommunications

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2007-03-13 Thread Servei Tècnic [ MICROTECH ]
Hi there. We were managing 15k messages per day before install assp. Assp had reduced it to 4k. (greylisting, SPF, DNSBL, MX, PTR know addresses validations) We have very low spam ratios in user mailboxes now. Our costumers are very happy. Our box is p4 2600 / 1GB / w2k3 r2 / imail / ClamAV /

RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread David Waller
Martin, The defrag could be adding to your disk i/o load unless it defrags very quickly. Have you tried defragging every 24 hours instead? I'm not questioning your motives as you may have very good reason to defrag so often. If your disk's are bored then it is unlikley to be a i/o problem (worth

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Tripp Allen
We don't recommend that you ever manually access the .uid or .mbx files as you could interrupt other processes using the files. If you're thinking of using this to determine if an account is inactive I don't think that's a valid case as the account probably will still be receiving mail (spam)

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Griffith
Tripp, That is exactly what we are doing right now by checking the lastlog.in file timestamp and the database field. Is there a way to determine if they have logged in via webmail to see if they are using it anymore? We basically mark the account as dormant and disable it if it is not used

[IMail Forum] 2006.2 Send

2007-03-13 Thread Rick Klinge
It appears that email, even local users to local user, is not being sent once it is received. I do see it send after Queue timer expires. I've also manually tried the 'Send All' button to force the Queue to send but nothing happens. Can anyone else confirm this? Tnx, ~Rick To Unsubscribe:

Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Mike N
While not as quick as checking the directory, 2006.2 adds a nice login audit string to the webserver log file - 2007-03-13 00:01:25 1.2.3.4 - 192.168.1.33 443 POST /IClient/login.aspx Login+Attempt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:+en-US 302

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi David, OO Defrag is very quick and needs more or less no ressources. We started defragmenting on a daily bases watching the disk acitivity via SNMP. We started to defrag the disks every 6 hours and at the end, 2 hours looked optimal. Maybe it sounds a bit like Voodoo, but the disks have less

RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Eric Parsons
I have a p4 3 gig with 1 gig ram 2x 36g drives, we receive about 8k messages a day with 1 domain and 75 users. We put a Barracuda 300 in front and have cut the load from the server down to about 500 messages a day, this figure is only from incoming messages and does not include intra office

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Tripp Allen
Right now 2006+ does not modify the lastlog.in file; we'll look at options for future releases. But, you can turn on the ability for 2006.2 to put web login lines into the IIS logs. Tripp _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Griffith Sent: Tuesday,

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2007-03-13 Thread Len Conrad
OO Defrag is very quick and needs more or less no ressources. We started defragmenting on a daily bases watching the disk acitivity via SNMP. We started to defrag the disks every 6 hours and at the end, 2 hours looked optimal. Maybe it sounds a bit like Voodoo, but the disks have less to do

RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 Question

2007-03-13 Thread Tripp Allen
Correcting myself: the 2006+ web client does not modify the lastlog.in file. We didn't modify the usage of the file by other services. Tripp _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tripp Allen Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:43 PM To:

Re: [IMail Forum] Control Access Allowed Machine IP Keeps Disappearing

2007-03-13 Thread Jeffery Rehm
Spoke too soon. Just happened again. Jeffery Rehm wrote: I found that if I allow access to a group and put IP in the setting appears to stick, or has so far anyway. I was doing it as a single IP and that wasn't working at all. Sanford Whiteman wrote: Ok, now this is getting

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, We're using the DNS from the ISP. In fact, this IMail server is also our own second DNS. Better idea to use our own DNS-servers, which are available in the local network? Mit freundlichen Grüssen ---

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, It's Compaq DL-360, which have only two disks. I don't see the benefit to have the spool files on the same Array but in on a different partition. Makes this really a difference? Mit freundlichen Grüssen ---

RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.2 Send

2007-03-13 Thread John T \(lists\)
Check your Imail server activation status. Sounds like Queue Manager is not processing and that happens on the end of the trial period. John T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Klinge Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007

RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread David Gregg
If you do many DNS lookups (and if using mxGuard, you certainly are doing a lot of DNS lookups), then it is best to use your own DNS server for these lookups. Too many ISPs are overburdened or limit the number of requests you send their way. Regards, David Gregg dgSoft Internet Services --

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2007-03-13 Thread David Gregg
No. Same array, diff partition, no gain. Do the defrag, use your own DNS servers, run sniffer in persistent mode. Make certain each of the DNBS blacklists you have configured are working and responsive. Rest assured that mxGuard will only do as many tests as are requird to test for spam. In

Re: [IMail Forum] Control Access Allowed Machine IP Keeps Disappearing

2007-03-13 Thread Matt
Jeff, Try removing the auto deny possible hack attempts check mark and see if it doesn't stop. Matt Jeffery Rehm wrote: Spoke too soon. Just happened again. Jeffery Rehm wrote: I found that if I allow access to a group and put IP in the setting appears to stick, or has so far

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2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi David, In meantime, MessageSniffer works as a service and in persistent mode. I have to re-find a article at spamhaus.org. So far i remember, an another DNSBL uses their services, which we probably using too. mxGuard needs like always more or less no resources, that not the issue. Efficient

RE: SPAM-WARN:RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Hi, One issue I can interject is recursion timeouts on MS Windows DNS. Note that this applies to the name server shipped with Windows NT, Windows 2000, or Windows 2003. This issue applies particularly to A, MX, and PTR record lookups for domains that are not active in the responsible name

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2007-03-13 Thread Len Conrad
It's Compaq DL-360, which have only two disks. I don't see the benefit to have the spool files on the same Array but in on a different partition. Makes this really a difference? When a partition has X amt of used space plus X+ amt of free space, the defragging is much faster and more

AW: SPAM-WARN:RE: [IMail Forum] Mail-Server on heavy load

2007-03-13 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi, A long time ago, we sayed goodbye to MS DNS. In a hosting environment running without AD, SimpleDNS is way better. And for some control panels like HELM, SimpleDNS is more or less mandatory, since the API for MS-DNS is buggy. My next therapy is to use the local DNS for my poor mail-server

RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.2 Send

2007-03-13 Thread Rick Klinge
Well clicking the About button pops up - Product Name: ICS Standard Activation Key: xxx 'hidden' Version Number: 9.2 Licenced User Count: Unlimited I believe I've activated our license prior/during install. Digging through piles of KB's for last 4 hours and trying various settings, hacks,

[IMail Forum] Thank You Forum!

2007-03-13 Thread David Dodell
I don't post much on this list, BUT I have to say ... you have all been very helpful over the years. My recent post on router advice even off subject gathered several helpful and very polite responses. I really appreciate it. David To Unsubscribe: