I read up on the FAQ about this and they pretty much said that the
problem is that our mail server accepts all mail, then determines
whether it can deliver it, and if it can't at that point it bounces
it. They say we need to change the settings in IMail to bounce mail
immediately
Hopefully, it sends a 550 -
unkownaddressee - error, rather than a bounce message.
- Original Message -
From:
Servei Tecnic [
MICROTECH ]
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:58
AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop Blacklisting
I read up on the FAQ about this and they pretty much said that the
problem is that our mail server accepts all mail, then determines
whether it can deliver it, and if it can't at that point
-
From: Joe Wolf / Internet Specialists, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop Blacklisting
Is there a way to disable a domain admin from implementing a nobody alias?
I'm using 2006.1 if that matters
ssage -
From:
Jasmine
Marin
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:50
AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Blacklisting
I keep getting blacklisted by
Spamcop because: It appears this listing is caused by misdirected
bounces. W
Is there a way to disable a domain admin from implementing a nobody
alias? I'm using 2006.1 if that matters.
Use JavaScript validation certainly as the first line of defense, and
nightly scans as a double-check.
--Sandy
Sanford Whiteman, Chief
I keep getting blacklisted by Spamcop because:
It appears this listing is caused by misdirected bounces. We have
a FAQ which covers this topic: Why auto-responses are bad (Misdirected
bounces). Please read this FAQ and heed the advice contained in it.
I read up on the FAQ about this
: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comAsunto: [IMail
Forum] Spamcop Blacklisting
I keep getting blacklisted by
Spamcop because: It appears this listing is caused by misdirected
bounces. We have a FAQ which covers this topic: Why auto-responses are bad
(Misdirected bounces). Please read this FAQ
AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Blacklisting
I keep getting blacklisted by Spamcop because:
It appears this listing is caused by misdirected bounces. We have
a FAQ which covers this topic: Why auto-responses are bad (Misdirected
bounces). Please read
November 2005
3:11 p.m.
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
It seems to be working fine here.
Travis
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Odryna
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005
10:59 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Title: Spamcop
Pardon my ignorance. But how would I
recognize it?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terence Blyth
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005
6:35 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Check to see if you
Title: Spamcop
Watch for the occasional neck spasm and squeezing
of the eyes...
Darin.
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From: Mike Odryna
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
Pardon my
ignorance. But how would I
Title: Spamcop
Had those for years. No cure yet. I will
keep you advised though.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005
9:20 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
Watch
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Odryna
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:24 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
We use our own DNS and the records point to the correct IP. The other
strange thing is when this first
Title: Spamcop
It seems to be working fine here.
Travis
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Odryna
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005
10:59 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
We
had a problem and I
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
We
had a problem and I was hoping that someone could shed some insight as to what
may have caused the issue.
We
had Spamcop set in the filters as a trusted list with automatic delete.
Yesterday at about 2am edt mail stopped getting delivered. I checked the
server
being
down.
Mike
Odryna
Lakespeed.com
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John T (Lists)
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005
3:08 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
1st question. Why are you
deleting based on one
ly a piece of the puzzle. You need more pieces of
the puzzle than simply SpamCop to warrant deletion of a
message.
-Joe
- Original Message -
From:
Mike Odryna
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:39
AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Foru
They are in the trusted list for immediate deletion.
Oops, bad configuration.
After looking at the logs further I noticed that SpamCop reported every
query from my mail server as listed.
Oops, sounds like a problem you need to investigate.
Has anyone seen this before? I have been looking
Overflow
Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log
Parsers.
- Original Message -
From:
Mike Odryna
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:39
AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
They are in the
trusted
@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail
Forum] SpamCop
I would not recommend that setup at all (delete
with spamcop). Spamcop currently has gmail servers listed. Last week
AOL and earthlink was listed. Spamcop is notorious for listing big ISP's
mail servers. Don't get me wrong its a great test when
MO It is almost as if my IMail server is being directed to another
MO list
So check the IP adress of spamcop on your server and on a
test system. I don't know if spamcop is doing any DNS
Load-balacing, but my actual Address is:
bl.spamcop.net [216.127.43.94]
If you get anaother
: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:29
AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
No we don't have a front or back end gateway. If I
set Spamcop in IMail as a list to check it is still reporting almost every
email as spam. I had to delete it entirely. The strange part is
that it reports to my
I get the same IP when I do an nslookup or ping from the server.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matti Haack
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:47 AM
To: Mike Odryna
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
MO It is almost as if my IMail
filters as well.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:37
PMTo: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail
Forum] SpamCop
Do you use your own DNS or a providers DNS? I
haveheard of providers
Title: Spamcop
We had a problem and I was hoping that someone could shed some insight as to what may have caused the issue.
We had Spamcop set in the filters as a trusted list with automatic delete. Yesterday at about 2am edt mail stopped getting delivered. I checked the server from the
Greetings all,
Our mail server was listed in Spamcop for reason of Misdirected
Bounces. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so, is their a
change needed to be made to Imail or Declude to prevent this from happening
or are their any settings I should check or Measures I should take to
Anyone noticing that spamcop is not responding to requests by the mail
servers to check IP against the DB? I'm getting a lot of retries in my
logs.
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus dead?
Been getting a lot of spam getting through lately so I did a bit of
digging
and found that the Search URL's for SpamCop (bl.spamcop.net) and Spamhaus
(sbl.spamhaus.org) do not resolve to A records anymore. Are others
seeing
Hi Eric,
Got it, thanks. FYI, I added ORDBs to my RBL list and it is helping to decrease spam.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Eric Shanbrom (Ipswitch)
Sent: Thu 6/10/2004 3:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus
Been getting a lot of spam getting through lately so I did a bit of digging
and found that the Search URL's for SpamCop (bl.spamcop.net) and Spamhaus
(sbl.spamhaus.org) do not resolve to A records anymore. Are others seeing
this? What are some of you guys using as lookup DNSBL's instead of them?
Both my dnsrbl's using spamcop and spamhaus are working, the dns lookup
refuses to answer my query for these records.
-Original Message-
From: Eric Shanbrom [Ipswitch] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum
: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus dead?
Been getting a lot of spam getting through lately so I did a bit of
digging
and found that the Search URL's for SpamCop (bl.spamcop.net) and Spamhaus
(sbl.spamhaus.org) do not resolve to A records anymore
Yeah, Mine are fine too. The authoritative DNS not responding to a
request.. Maybe there is and outage somewhere..
-Original Message-
From: Mark Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus
Still working from what I see in the logs.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus dead?
Both my dnsrbl's using
Yeah just checked I have the same thing.
- Original Message -
From: Mark Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop and Spamhaus dead?
Both my dnsrbl's using spamcop and spamhaus are working, the dns lookup
Been getting a lot of spam getting through lately so I did a bit of digging
and found that the Search URL's for SpamCop (bl.spamcop.net) and Spamhaus
(sbl.spamhaus.org) do not resolve to A records anymore. Are others seeing
this? What are some of you guys using as lookup DNSBL's instead of them?
Is anyone else using spamcop is the dns black lists? The server is having trouble
connecting to bl.spamcop.net. It seems to be failing 60% of the time. Thanks
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop RDNS down?
Is anyone else using spamcop is the dns black lists? The server is having
trouble connecting to bl.spamcop.net
I get the same results from my workstation as well. Anyone heard any news if they were
DdOS'd?
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Portway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spamcop RDNS down?
I have noticed
I have noticed a number of problems connecting to US sites from the UK today
maybe this is part of the problem. Have you tried pinging their server or
running tracerte? I have tried to ping bl.spamcop.net and got the results
below:
12/01/03 16:02:48 ping bl.spamcop.net
Ping failed, no such
ScharbroughSent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 7:24 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [IMail Forum] spamcop
blocking everyone???
This weekend sometime SpamCop
started showing up on the majority of outside emails. Yahoo.com, AOL and even
other local ISPs. Has anyone else seen this. We have had good
This weekend sometime SpamCop started showing up on the
majority of outside emails. Yahoo.com, AOL and even other local ISPs.
Has anyone else seen this. We have had good results in the past with spamCop
this is a first for us
Joe Scharbrough, MCSE, MCT, MCDBA, MCSD, CCNA, A+
Consulting
Title: Spamcop reporting
Does anyone have a vbs or the perl script ported that is listed on spamcop's site that would allow sending spam via imail's smtp32.exe fuction? Thanks
Hello,
I am a declude user and have noticed no spamcop activity in my
declude log since 06/30/03 and was wondering (we have declude set
to tag messages) if something has happened to the spamcop
link bl.spamcop.net or what I may have missed.
Can anyone offer any insight for me here?
Maybe the
I use Spamcop with a different e-mail product and it seems to be working OK
-Original Message-
From: Rick Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop outage?
Importance: Low
Hello,
I am a declude user
Their website is down, but it is still working with Symantec's SMTP
gateway.
Travis
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop outage
I am a declude user and have noticed no spamcop activity in my
declude log since 06/30/03 and was wondering (we have declude set
to tag messages) if something has happened to the spamcop
link bl.spamcop.net or what I may have missed.
http://www.declude.com/spamtrap.htm shows that it is still
This may explain why I cannot get to bl.spamcop.net via DNS
lookup or tracert command.
Actually, you normally won't be able to ping the zone used for spam
databases. In this case, lookups for IPs (such as
2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net) will work, but bl.spamcop.net doesn't exist by
itself (you
Scott, I am sure in the end it may be something I overlooked..
However, I can do a ping to 2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net
C:\ping 2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net
Pinging 2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net [127.0.0.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.2: bytes=32 time10ms TTL=128
Good -- that means that your
Martinez
IT Director
DSL Internet
Miami, Florida 33155
Are you the police?... no ma'am, we're sysadmins
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Leske
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
Humm... The question still remains...
I have not been able to get bl.spamcop.net to work. I have added but
messages are still filtering through.
Is there anything special that needs to be done?
Has anyone successfully added bl.spamcop.net to Imail 8.0 ??
Is it working?
The SPAMCOP test is
The spamcop site is down, I can tell you.
~Katie
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Martinez
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
Humm... The question still remains...
I
SpamCop is working with Syamantec SMTP Gateway.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Katie La
Salle-Lowery
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
The spamcop site is down, I can tell
I have Symantec SMTP Gateway 3.01. I didn't think you could use Spamcop's
rbl lists, but only the mail-abuse.org list.
Todd
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From: Travis Rabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
SpamCop
Of Todd - Smart
Mail
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
I have Symantec SMTP Gateway 3.01. I didn't think you could use Spamcop's
rbl lists, but only the mail-abuse.org list.
Todd
- Original Message -
From: Travis Rabe
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
SpamCop is working with Syamantec SMTP Gateway.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Katie La
Salle-Lowery
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE
So is it not possible to get Spamcop to work with Imail 8.0 ?
Just because you can't get it to work doesn't mean that it won't work. :)
There are two ways that you can use Spamcop with IMail v8. Either with the
anti-spam that is built-in to IMail v8, or with Declude JunkMail. Both
methods
What happens if you go to a command prompt (on the IMail server), and type
ping 2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net? Does it say something like host not
found (meaning you can't communicate with Spamcop) or does it show an IP
of 127.0.0.2 (which means that your server can communicate with Spamcop)?
: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
What happens if you go to a command prompt (on the IMail server), and
type ping 2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net? Does it say something like
host not found (meaning you can't communicate with Spamcop) or does
Robert Martinez
Miami, Florida
Are you the police?... No ma'am, we're sysadmins
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
So
Haven't had any false positives since I started using it about 4 months
ago. So your opinion of wisest is out of place.
Travis, I am just giving my .02 from my observations. I am not doubting you.
SpamCop is great. Then they get a little trigger happy. Then people
complain. Then they are
But since you think I'm not the wisest or as holy as thou, here are some
snippets just to show you I'm not pulling outta my hind end
Hoping to be as wise as John some day,
Haven't had any false positives since I started using it about 4
months ago. So your opinion of wisest is out of
Wednesday, June 18, 2003 you wrote:
TR Haven't had any false positives since I started using it about 4
TR months ago. So your opinion of wisest is out of place.
SPAMCOP is usually 4th or 5th in my tests in terms of number of
messages failing. In June to date it is 4th at 32.76%. And it
You are deleting on SpamCop? Not the wisest thing to do since they are
known to list on erroneous reports.
Haven't had any false positives since I started using it about 4 months
ago. So your opinion of wisest is out of place.
The catch here is that different people have different spam
And, as John pointed out, Spamcop does list IPs based on a single spam
complaint (valid or not). Some people will see FP ratios much higher than
Not only that, Spamcop isn't smart enough to list the real email server. We
do store and forward filtering for an ISP. One of their users was
And, as John pointed out, Spamcop does list IPs based on a single spam
complaint (valid or not). Some people will see FP ratios much
higher than
what we saw. That's why we typically recommend a weighted system
for most
of our customers.
I believe that SpamCop has re-done there
For what it's worth, I use the SpamCop list through Symantec software
and it has been working through the day (98 deletions). Maybe there is
a problem with the way Imail interacts with it. In speaking with the
creator of the FiveTen lists, (he does some work for us), he was a
little miffed that
For what it's worth, I use the SpamCop list through Symantec software
and it has been working through the day (98 deletions). Maybe there is
a problem with the way Imail interacts with it. In speaking with the
creator of the FiveTen lists, (he does some work for us), he was a
little miffed
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop
For what it's worth, I use the SpamCop list through Symantec software
and it has been working through the day (98 deletions). Maybe there
is a problem with the way Imail interacts with it. In speaking with
the creator of the FiveTen lists, (he does
But since you think I'm not the wisest or as holy as thou, here are some
snippets just to show you I'm not pulling outta my hind end
*
17-Jun-2003 00:46:12 Action: Spam List Block Client: 65.197.206.243
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM's answer to MS
I seem to remember someone posting a link to a hoax email that was
supposedly coming from spamcop stating that you are an open relay. I know
I am not, so could someone send me the link so I can be sure that the emails
I am getting are not legit?
Thanks!
.::d::.
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Imail
Subject: [IMail Forum] SPAMCOP hoax?
I seem to remember someone posting a link to a hoax email that was
supposedly coming from spamcop stating that you are an open relay. I know
I am not, so could someone send me the link so I can be sure
On 3/16/03 12:32 PM, Paul Navarre [EMAIL PROTECTED] spit
this out onto my computer screen:
This link has some information:
http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/338.html
In my experience any message that says to call a phone number and ask to talk
to Julian is a hoax.
Paul Navarre
That's
Your Company, Inc.
http://www.yourdomain.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: SPAMCOP:Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Would it not be true, that due
Of
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| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: SPAMCOP:Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
|
|
| Would it not be true, that due to the wide subjectivity in defining what
| exactly is Junk E-Mail, that any Junk Mail (SPAM) filtering solution or
| black
I have run Imail for a few years, we are very anti-spam Stupid
spamcop - who cannot send an email to the abuse of the domain -
has us listed as a spammer
They have 3 complaints against us 2 are because they took the
submitters email (a user of ours) as the sender WHen I notified
them of
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
I have run Imail for a few years, we are very anti-spam. Stupid
spamcop - who cannot send an email to the abuse of the domain -
has us listed as a spammer.
They have 3
I have run Imail for a few years, we are very anti-spam Stupid
spamcop - who cannot send an email to the abuse of the domain -
has us listed as a spammer
That's because spam was sent from your mail server, and they have no idea
what abuse address you have (do you have abuse@[6317219925] set
Chet,
So since my first request to fix the problem fell on deaf ears,
any idea how to deal with these idiots? If people really are
using their list, them I am really going to be pissed
Not to make you mad I would say there are more than a few that use SPAMCOP
in their spam lists I have see
any idea how to deal with these idiots? If people really are
using their list, them I am really going to be pissed
I use 'em Please close your relay and have them retest
Mike
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yes people use them but i am not sure how to deal with them i run a mailing list which
is double opt in and some people complained that they were not getting their messages
come to find out those people's messages were being blocked by spam cop. I told them
they need to deal with their
Reply to: Matthew Lohr
Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop on Thursday 7:46:36 AM
SpamCop will soon find themselves in the same 'soup' as
RBL and others. If they damage a legitimate business then
they do expose themselves to legal action. Each time RBL
has been sued they give in but only after
Matthew,
Can I ask what your double opt-in mechanism is?
Sandy
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Our Mail server became listed last week on SpamCop for our Declude
Virus messages that was being sent back to the sender. So now i have
had to turn off the virus notifications.
Rhett
On 28 Feb 2002 at 9:32, Roger Heath wrote:
Reply to: Matthew Lohr
Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Our Mail server became listed last week on SpamCop for our Declude
Virus messages that was being sent back to the sender
what evidence do you have that was the reason for being listed?
So now i have
had to turn off the virus notifications
what about mailer-daemon bounce messages? :))
Len
Our Mail server became listed last week on SpamCop for our Declude
Virus messages that was being sent back to the sender So now i have
had to turn off the virus notifications
I just checked, and SpamCop shows that it was a virus notification sent to
the recipient of the virus (IE one of your
Can I ask what your double opt-in mechanism is?
jargon for list un/subscribe confirmation dialogue
Len
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Thank you i will try that and see if we can stay out of trouble with
our own users
Rhett
On 28 Feb 2002 at 11:07, R Scott Perry wrote:
Our Mail server became listed last week on SpamCop for our Declude
Virus messages that was being sent back to the sender So now i
have
had to turn off the
, 2002 9:31 AM
To: Matthew Lohr
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
Matthew,
Can I ask what your double opt-in mechanism is?
Sandy
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- Original Message -
From: Matthew Lohr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
: yes people use them but i am not sure how to deal with them i run a
mailing list which is double opt in and some
Usually it means the first 'opt in' you were slammed into the list without
your knowledge or permission then when you get the first UCE you have the
option of confirming or unjoining (thus the double opt-in language)
To add a key piece to this: A double opt-in in will automatically default
to
Can I ask what your double opt-in mechanism is?
jargon for list un/subscribe confirmation dialogue
Hey guys,
Um, did you really think I don't know what double opt-in is? I *am*
writing a list manager, you know! :)))
What I meant was what is he *considering* a double opt-in, as it may
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- Original Message -
From: Matthew Lohr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spamcop
: yes people use them but i am not sure how to deal with them i
run a
mailing list which is double opt in and some people
But spamcops flawed idea of - send one piece of spam and you are a
spammer service and should be blocked is just stupid
That idea IS stupid
But the SPAMCOP test doesn't work like that First, it requires multiple
spam to be *reported* to them You have to be sending more than a few
E-mails
But the SPAMCOP test doesn't work like that First, it requires
multiple
spam to be *reported* to them You have to be sending more than a few
E-mails for that to happen Second, it requires that your
spam-to-legitimate-mail ratio be less than 2% So if you have lots of
legitimate mail leaving
Scott -- any idea how they determine this ratio?
From http://spamcopnet/blshtml, we find that The reports of spam from a
system are weighted against the amount of mail from the same system to
determine a spam ratio It also says If a server has fewer than 3 spam
reports against it and
After digging - since our users send alot of mail out - not sure
how it wasn't getting picked up (if this service actually works) -
since sprint messed up pointing to us as the authority for our
block (seems to have happened a month+ ago, I just never noticed) -
they may not actually base
they may not actually base good mail on the ip address but the domain
Sorry, but that just isn't possible
The SPAMCOP test works by looking up the IP address -- that's the only
thing that the SPAMCOP test knows about you When Declude saw your E-mail
here, it asked SPAMCOP what it knows
We use SpamCop as well on our Declude system and usually see pretty
good information from it.
However, we had an e-mail from them yesterday giving us information
about a Spamvertised website.
From what we can tell from this confusing message they sent to us is
that *someone* (so far, it is
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