Re: [lace] Mechlin lace

Hi Nancy An interesting thought. Sorry, I cannot help, the reference I came across was only to Mechlin. Since the areas in which the other laces were made are in close proximity to the Mechlin area it is very possible that they had the same attitude. Fortunately there are more prickings available

Re: [lace] Mechlin lace

Hi Alex, Were the Binche and Valenciennes prickings burnt also? Nancy On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Alex Stillwell wrote: > Thank you Devon. Interesting not only to see the lace but the pricking it > was > made on. There are very few Mechlin prickings available,

[lace] Mechlin lace

Thank you Devon. Interesting not only to see the lace but the pricking it was made on. There are very few Mechlin prickings available, most were burnt, when no longer used, so that they could not be copied. Blow the dust Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the

RE: [lace] Mechlin and lace terminology

<lace@arachne.com> Subject: Re: [lace] Mechlin and lace terminology Lorelei, It may be because I am both a collector and a lacemaker, but I don't see that the two groups differ in what they want to use a name for--to be a short-hand for some set of data. ... - To unsubscribe send ema

Re: [lace] Mechlin and lace terminology

Lorelei, It may be because I am both a collector and a lacemaker, but I don't see that the two groups differ in what they want to use a name for--to be a short-hand for some set of data. The data that you as a lacemaker want to know is the same as what I think collectors want to know--techniques,

[lace] Mechlin and lace terminology

We have a constant problem with terminology, partly because we comprise 2 different groups of people - collectors and lace makers. I am not willing to say one is right and the other wrong. But our perspectives are different. As I understand it, the collectors want a name they can use to reference

RE: [lace] Mechlin

That fits well. I agree. Lorelei -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Ilske Thomsen Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:07 AM To: Arachne reply <lace@arachne.com> Subject: Re: [lace] Mechlin Mechlin, Valenciennes and Binche

Re: [lace] Mechlin

Mechlin, Valenciennes and Binche laces looked at the beginning of 18th century very similar but than they became each their typical look. Mechlin get an outline for example.with In the first half of 18th cent. the motives of the Mechlin lace were named flowers and worked in linen stitch and

[lace] Mechlin

Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:02:39 -0600 From: "Lorelei Halley" Subject: [lace] RE: Mechlin Alex Of the books you list, I only have Levey and Palliser. Palliser was trying to be scholarly Hi Lorelei As far as I have managed to understand it the ,Mechlin, made before about

RE: [lace] Mechlin

Nancy says, “This doesn't say what the historical usage was, of course, but that is the current usage by dealers for the antique laces.” Trying to use updated terminology for lace is proving to be nothing short of a metaphysical enterprise. For instance, at one point the museum referred to all

Re: [lace] Mechlin

It is interesting that the 17th C and early 18th C straight laces from the Flanders region are today all referred to as Valenciennes or sometimes Binche by lace dealers--e.g., http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html. As soon as a gimp appears, then that variant is called Mechlin.

[lace] Mechlin

Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:38:02 -0600 From: "Lorelei Halley" Subject: [lace] Flanders/Mechlin Leonard and Devon I have said these things before, but this seems a good time to repeat. Hi Arachnids >From my reading of lace history books, References in History of lace -

[lace] Mechlin

Alex Until today I didn't know you had a website/blog. That Honiton piece is amazing, and the Bedfordshire one is beautiful too. Wow. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

[lace] Mechlin

Hi Arachnids Until now I have only made pieces from Rita’s syllabus so you can see better pieces if you look there. When I have made some from antique prickings, which seem to be unavailable, or designed or drafted myself from pieces of lace, I will put them on my website, but do not hold your

[lace] Mechlin

It seems there are some classes this summer at Kantcentrum. Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

[lace] Mechlin

Alex As you work through Thienpondt's patterns, please post photos. We see very little Mechlin made by living lacemakers. I think it will stimulate more interest. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write

[lace] Mechlin

Dear Arachnids My thanks to all who responded to my request for information about museums etc. for studying Milanese lace. Now I have a request for myself. After completing my floral book I started studying Mechlin using Rita Thienpondts syllabus, with its well thought out teaching progression

[lace] Mechlin books

Alex Just tonight I have learned of a few more Mechlin books. They are posted here: http://laceioli.ning.com/group/continental-straight-laces/page/good-books The Mechlin section is near the bottom. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe

Re: [lace] Mechlin

Alex, In addition to the Mechlin lace books you and Lorelei mention, there is another one also by Rita Thienpondt. It was published in 1998 and is titled 'Mechelse kant, meer dan alleen ijsgrond...' (Mechlin lace, more than iceground). Regards, Maria Greil a lacemaker living in Spain 2014-06-03

[lace] Mechlin book

H Arachnids I have had several replies to my question about information on Mechlin lace including the following - In addition to the Mechlin lace books you and Lorelei mention, there is another one also by Rita Thienpondt. It was published in 1998 and is titled 'Mechelse kant, meer dan alleen

[lace] Mechlin

Hi Arachnids In 1993 I purchased a copy of Syllabus Mechelse Kant 1 by Rita Thienpondt intending to try my hand. However several books got in the way and I’m only now having the time to play. I also have Eisblumen by Ulrike Voelcker. Are there any more books, leaflets or articles on the

[lace] Mechlin

Alex Rita Thienpondt did write a 2nd set of patterns, called De sierlijkheid van de Mechelse Kant, published 2002. It appears to be self published, but is the same format as her first book. Edgings, a few corners, several small motifs. I have all 3 but doubt I will actually learn these. I'm more

[lace] Mechlin

Re: I never came across this echeveau thread, but I would try the 240 cotton , I consider it will be just the size, maybe a little thinner than asked. Thank you Alix Antoine. I will try the 240. I have 'Syllabus Mechelse Kant !', Rita Thienpondt. Are there any other books on Mechlin techniques

[lace] Mechlin lace and clovers

As the subject Mechlin lace came up in the list I would like to know why there are often four leave clovers in the Mechlin lace designs. I have some 18th century Mechlin lace from my family and therein I also notice the clovers. Thank you - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com

[lace] Mechlin and Bucks Point (was RE: Fw: 17th century Dutch Lace)

In the collection of fabulous patterns made by the Misses Pope and Sivewright (published by Christine Springett) there's clear evidence that someone borrowed a bird from a piece of Mechlin lace to include in a beautiful Bucks point fan design. Since both Mechlin ground and point ground are

Re: [lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

On Mar 23, 2005, at 12:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie) wrote: The pins are missing! There are no pins in the ground! How do I tension without pins to pull against? Tamara wrote: The pins are missing in the ground of both Mechlin and Valenciennes (and I've heard of some Bucks

Re: [lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

I've never tried Mechlin, but Skansk is another lace with pins only at the edges. What I did through the ground was work to an edge and use that pin to maintain the worker's position while carefully tensioning each ground stitch along its path. Even in Bucks, they traditionally didn't put

RE: [lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

Julie, I took Ulrike Voelker's (nee Loehr) (NOTE: The new name has NO UMLAUT, YAY!) class in Ithaca and love Mechlin. I haven't done tons of it, but I think I got the ground pretty well under my belt. As usual, Tamara's Patented Thinking Woman's Lace Methods are right on track. On the

Re: [lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

In a message dated 3/24/2005 3:45:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in once that although Mechlin was supposed to have died out early in the 1800's, she found lace pieces in England that were worked in Mechlin ground up til almost 1900. It was a small lace

[lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

Hi Spiders My background is Torchon and Bucks Point and now I am trying to do the first exercise in the Mechlin book Rita Thienpondt's Syllabus Mechelse Kant I. Thank you for answering my questions about terminology last week; it was very helpful and motivating. I am not having any

[lace] Mechlin, where did the pins go?

On Mar 23, 2005, at 12:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie) wrote: The pins are missing! There are no pins in the ground! How do I tension without pins to pull against? The pins are missing in the ground of both Mechlin and Valenciennes (and I've heard of some Bucks workers who don't use them,

Re: [lace] Mechlin terminology

Hello Julie I don't have that book but I think I can answer some of your questions In Section 1, Thienpondt does not define the stitches. Linen stitch is a standard name, I assume it's cloth stitch CTC Half-stitch is a standard name, I assume it is CT Twisted stitch I assume

[lace] Mechlin terminology

Hi Spiders I just bought a How to Make Mechlin Book. It is Rita Thienpondt's Syllabus Mechelse Kant I. It looks like fun. Right now it is fairly impenetrable, but I think I'll be fine once I assay a few exercises. To make it more fun for me, could someone explain some of the terminology

[lace] Mechlin

Hi everybody Do any of you have samples of Mechlin lace that you have made? If so, would you be willing to share pictures? My website identification page has no photos of any Mechlin lace made by living lacemakers. This leaves a hole in the story. The samples don't have to be complicated,