For those who are unaware, Quincy Adams was a long time resident of Lincoln. He
was early involved with the Conservation Commission, and may in fact have
founded it. He was chairman of that body for many years. He was also the
original owner of Adams Woods, and was instrumental in making it
"Roadside Paths" are the paved asphalt sidewalks that follow the natural
topo and vegetation that have been in place for about 50 years. Not to be
confused with the unpaved trails in the conservation area the mountain
bikers would like additional access to.
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*Stephanie Smoot*
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It was brought up earlier that Lincoln is progressive. I'd argue that many
of the new ideas such as changing trail use, housing etc that are discussed
on here tend to take a rather conservative viewpoint.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 21:30 John Mendelson wrote:
> Thanks, Rich. Though it has been cited
I cannot believe given recent news that this conversation has devolved to
the point of invoking John Quincy Adams. As if it even remotely matters
what a privileged white male who died hundreds of years ago thinks, or even
that anyone short of a Supreme Court Justice has the ability to divine his
Thanks, Rich. Though it has been cited numerous times here and on the
trail use forums that bikes are worse for trails than horses, I cannot find
any studies that back up this point.
The fearmongering, NIMBY-ism, and loose "facts" on here about bikes on
trails, cyclists as lawless and entitled,
On 7/5/22 6:31 PM, Diana Abrashkin wrote:
What we call "sidewalks" were conceived as bike paths. Are walking
paths "trails?"
Maybe we need to consult older documents to determine the right
descriptions.
Diana Abrashkin, Registered Architect
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On trail erosion:
There are, of course, academic studies that investigate this, such as
Erosional Impact of Hikers, Horses, Motorcycles, and Off-Road Bicycles on
Mountain Trails in Montana
But to access those new trails, aren’t you using trails open to all, and thus,
the potential for walker/cyclist conflict?
Maybe those bike trails have discreet access. I can’t tell.
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> On Jul 5, 2022, at 6:48 PM, John Mendelson wrote:
>
>
> Currently about 8 of our 80
Did you consider not just bikes, but dogs? Not just XC skiers but
snoeshoers?
it's endless.
I can even remember being resentful if walkers messed up the nice trails
I'd broken with my XC skis.
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Currently about 8 of our 80 miles of trails permit biking. The proposal
currently under consideration would add about 8 more miles open to bikes.
We would go from about 10% of our trails to 20%.
John
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 6:14 PM Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <
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What we call "sidewalks" were conceived as bike paths. Are walking paths
"trails?"
Maybe we need to consult older documents to determine the right
descriptions.
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Are those 8 miles connected to each other and well marked?
Is it easy to go out and do an 8 mile “course” or “loop” without stopping too
often?
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On Tuesday, July 5, 2022, 6:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Currently there are about 8 miles open to biking, out of
Thank you Chris.
That is a very kind offer!
Ellen does make a good point that regulation might be complicated.
I really would like to know the facts of how many trail miles are currently
designated as bike friendly?
Does anyone know?
Joanna
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On Tuesday, July
I disagree. The premise, that what is allowed in one jurisdiction, here
Waltham, (there is the money hopefully for mitigating damage) should be
good for Lincoln, is a false one. Joe does it, so Mike should do it too.
In itself I don't think that is a good model for Lincoln.
Gordon Woodington
On
What if we regulated trail bike speed?
I am currently NOT a cyclist but as I get older I am seeking out new cross
training activities to ease the wear and tear on my body so I can continue
doing my other favorite activities.
IF I started trail biking I personally would not be interested in super
Dan,
The bike shop promoted biking and drew a large number of new bikers to
Lincoln trails. It was a direct effect. Mike Farney was a nice guy (the
shop owner) but business, as it turns out, is not always the best regulator
of what is good for the environment, for our local ecology. Changing
Thanks. One small addition to the conventional wisdom on LT: bikes
disturb the peace in Lincoln but are fine in places like Prospect Park in
Waltham.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 5:37 PM V Saleme wrote:
> Dan, the belief is bikes disturb the peace however, dogs off leashes
> (don’t mind the random
Dan, the belief is bikes disturb the peace however, dogs off leashes (don’t
mind the random poop), horses and far too many ‘hikers’ in general are all
good things-
Hope this helps
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 5:29 PM Dan Paul wrote:
> I think I may be missing something here as a relative newcomer
I think I may be missing something here as a relative newcomer to Lincoln.
How can bikes and/or a bike shop “disturb the peace?” Or are we talking about
electric bikes? (but even so).
Please enlighten me?
On Jul 5, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Ellen Raja wrote:
I’m glad for this time to listen and
Horse hooves promote water absorption by their imprint, a good thing, not
run-off as bike ruts do. So I think Quincy would be ok. I will bet that
he would not like bikes be permitted on the trails in Adams Woods.
"Original intent" to use a recently invoked term. Who will foot the bill
to
Hello Ellen,
There are good bike trails for bikers to enjoy in Lincoln and surrounding
towns already. We should preserve the uniqueness of Lincoln conservation
land usage and NOT homogenize all users anymore than already done here. It
was tried in the past when there was a bicycle shop in
I third that – Alvaro Cruz is a wonderful gardener.
Allison Easton
From: Lincoln On Behalf Of K Mierz via Lincoln
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: .
Subject: [LincolnTalk] good gardener recc
alvaro cruz has worked for me, too.
he is a hard-working gentle soul
who loves
I’m glad for this time to listen and reflect and I think.I’m coming down hard
against bikes . Bikes disturb the peace and the environment .
Let the bikes use the bike paths along side of the roads that were designed
and built for them .
Ellen Raja
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alvaro cruz has worked for me, too. he is a hard-working gentle soul who loves
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Thank you to everybody who has emailed -- I think we're all set.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 1:15 PM Lis Herbert wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> We were late to sign up for swim team and missed the suit order. There’s a
> meet on Thursday and we are hoping somebody in town might have swim trunks
> for boys
Good Afternoon LT,
My wife and I need a couple strong people this Saturday morning to load some
furniture into a U-Haul van at a home in Stowe and then help unload it at our
home on Bypass Road (Lincoln). Items to be moved include a bed, an armoire,
and a couple dressers – probably 2 hours
All these groups would use the trails differently. Including the beasts
and birds who might be driven out. Have any Lincoln cyclists enjoyed
Prospect Hill in Waltham a mere15 minutes from Lincoln center by bike.
Regards,
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Yes Margaret, and that circles back to a point brought up at one of the
meetings. Should there be destination bike trails--so that if one wanted to
bike into town or to school that is possible.
melinda
From: Lincoln on behalf of Margaret Olson
Sent: Tuesday,
A reminder to please not include identifiable photos of children whose
parents did not give you explicit permission to publish their
pictures online -- thanks!
Alice
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:28 PM Alice Waugh wrote:
> Hi Lincoln,
>
> The Squirrel is out of town but I plan to post some
Bikers and walkers have so much more in common than we do differences. It
really pains me to hear all of this divisiveness and negativity. Both
groups want to protect nature, want to give our kids and ourselves a chance
to safely recreate away from traffic and pollution, and want to find more
Some thoughts. There are people who do not want bikes on the trails. There
are people who do not want bikes on the roads. There are people who do not
want bikes on the roadside paths. There are people who do not think we
should build more roadside paths, let alone bike trails.
Bikes are a much
Hi Lincoln,
The Squirrel is out of town but I plan to post some crowd-sourced photos of
the July 4 celebration in Lincoln. Everyone is welcome to email me photos —
please include your full name, approximately when and where the photo was
taken, and the names of any people you can identify in the
I knew Quincy and yes he would be rolling over in his grave if he thought there
were dirt bikes being ridden on those trails, just ask Kim at Red Rail.
Nancy
From: Lincoln On Behalf Of Leslie Turek
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 12:15 PM
To: John Kimball
Cc: conservat...@lincolntown.org;
>>For example, I see no need to allow them in the idyllic Adams Woods.
Quincy would roll over in his grave.
I'm not taking a stand for or against bikes on the trails, but I have to
say this statement made me giggle a bit. According to Tom Gumbart, who used
to lead our conservation walks through
I agree with on this statement Joan--thanks for posting.
melinda
Bikes should not be allowed on any narrow paths where they may run into walkers
and especially children. Bikes and dogs are even more incompatible.
From: Lincoln on behalf of John Kimball
Sent:
* Bikes do not use the roadside paths but feel entitled to use the roads*
Massachusetts law *MGL c.85 § 11B* states, among other things:
*Every person operating a bicycle upon a way, as defined in section one of
chapter ninety, shall have the right to use all public ways in the
commonwealth
John Kimball, here since 1972. I have voted for every conservation purchase
since, and have very little sympathy for bikes on conservation land. Bikes do
not use the roadside paths but feel entitled to use the roads, and I have no
confidence that they would confine themselves to approved
We have had an excellent house sitter this month. She is local and has
availability. If you would like her info please direct message me.
Carol Ryan. 781-698-9436
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I know an excellent Gardener for hire at $40. hour
His name is Alvaro Cruz and can be reached at: 978 798-2911
He has worked for/with us and we recommend him highly.
Richard Dana
Richard Dana Ed.D.
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Hi everybody,
We were late to sign up for swim team and missed the suit order. There’s a meet
on Thursday and we are hoping somebody in town might have swim trunks for boys
that we can buy or claim — their pants sizes are usually size 8 and 10.
Thank you!
Lis
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Hello, I have a generous amount of mostly new office supplies, must go by 7/8.
See list below, available for pickup, pls text :)
Office supplies
Most unopened, new
Some open but new
11x17 paper, one ream
Legal size paper, one ream
5 reams paper, 96 bright 20 pound 50, staples brand
We thoroughly enjoyed the festivities - thank you everyone who made this day
special !
Purple House - seems to have a brand new Playground ball (red) that must have
escaped from one of the floats. If it's yours - it is under the BIG TREE on
Lincoln road at the edge of the driveway ! Thanks
Operators will be performing routine flushing today, at:
48 Mill Street
121 Old Concord Rd
154 Lexington Rd
Sam Brooks House
Routine flushing of the water means to reduce sediment in the pipes sometimes
produces brownish or milky colored water. The water is safe to drink, but it’s
best not
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