Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-02 Thread melinda bruno-smith
"Connectivity" as pointed out in last nights meeting, seems an important point--to create a network that would assist commuting around town. There are many times I would like to walk or ride into "town" and not have to deal with the car roads. Melinda Bruno-Smith

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-02 Thread Bob Kupperstein
I am a frequent rider on our trails (as well as those in surrounding towns). I don't encounter walkers that often on the trails (or horse-back riders), but it's not too hard to safely and courteously pass by. Yes, some bikers are rude. Some drivers are rude, and yes, *some* walkers/hikers are

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-02 Thread llas902551--- via Lincoln
Hi again the trails commission  needs to check with surrounding  towns to gather info on how to have INCLUSION!!LYNNE LASPINA  Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 6:50 PM, Joanna Owen Schmergel wrote: Bedford has a nice system. Sent from Yahoo Mail for

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Ryan F. Hagan
imho, wheels should *always* yield to feet. Children, families, elders. Respect pedestrians and wear a helmet. How often might one encounter an aggressive rider vs an aggressive pedestrian? Let’s be considerate and stay safe. Nature is in no rush and the fresh air is for all of us to enjoy at

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln
Thank you Ginger! This is a fantastic video as a jumping off  point for establishing a “Gold” standard for shared trails use for all!! Please everyone, watch this!!!  Joanna  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 10:18 PM, Ginger Reiner wrote: The horses meets

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Ginger Reiner
> > The horses meets cyclist issue is a tad more complicated but there must be > a solution. This is one model for how horses, bikers and walkers can share the same trails, focusing on education and encouragement of courteous and safe behavior: https://safetrailsmarin.org/ I think the 5-minute

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln
The horses meets cyclist issue is a tad more complicated but there must be a solution.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 8:45 PM, Scott Clary wrote: Mountain bikes are designed for trail and off road. I only ride a mountain bike and love the trails and nature.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Scott Clary
Mountain bikes are designed for trail and off road. I only ride a mountain bike and love the trails and nature. They are exillerating. Sidewalks and roads are dangerous as they are full of traffic and pedestrians. And not to mention pavement really hurts when you go down. How about everyone gets

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Sara Mattes
There are no “kids with some adults on errands” on my local trail system (Pigeon Hill), but there are enough mountain bikers who persist in ripping down signs. -- Sara Mattes > On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Margaret Olson wrote: > > Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Sara Mattes
Exactly! -- Sara Mattes > On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Jennifer Goodman wrote: > > No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam is a > city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, as > they are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Sara Mattes
Bingo! -- Sara Mattes > On Jun 1, 2022, at 5:24 PM, Leslie Turek wrote: > > Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want to > have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist them > to commute around town without having to ride on the

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Andy Wang
Also, for context: Lincoln has 80+ miles of trails ( https://www.lincolntown.org/245/Conservation). So the increase of trails that are accessible to bikes from 8-19 miles still restricts mountain biking to only ~24% of the trails that exist in the town (up from 10%). So there are still 61+

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln
Bedford has a nice system. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 6:48 PM, llas902551--- via Lincoln wrote: Mayb the trails committee  can find out from surrounding  towns  how they handle bikes/walkers.Lynne  LaSpina  Sent from the all new AOL app for Android

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread llas902551--- via Lincoln
Mayb the trails committee  can find out from surrounding  towns  how they handle bikes/walkers.Lynne  LaSpina  Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 1:34 PM, Margaret Olson wrote: -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Stephanie Smoot
Was there any discussion on improving some of the paths, ie upgrading a couple of miles to make them a useful cross town off road system or just keeping them the same dirt paths for for surefooted local dog walkers and occasional cyclist. If so, you likely wont get the cyclists who want to go

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Ted Chan
I think it'd be great if we could make the Bergen-Culver trails open to bikes after school as they head to Lincoln Station.. Both the route to the Iron Horse trail route going out to the MBTA parking and the one that comes out to a trailhead across my house at the Pond Sculpture. It's a little

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Sabra Alden
Here is the link to the map of proposed changes. Personally I believe the restrictions around Flints pond and the Harrington property are too generous. I understand the need to keep our water clean, but as two of the largest, uninterrupted spaces in town, it will severely restrict options for

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Margaret Olson
Yes, that's an excellent compromise On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:24 PM Leslie Turek wrote: > Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want > to have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist > them to commute around town without having to ride on

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Sabra Alden
Coming from a very active family, I don’t really think that just 19 miles of trails will attract more experienced (and perhaps more aggressive) riders, in any great number. However, I absolutely see the benefit for those of us who like to ride to and fro around town as a choice to avoiding the

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Leslie Turek
Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want to have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist them to commute around town without having to ride on the dangerous narrow roads. A perfectly reasonable request. But the trails that were designated

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Margaret Olson
To put paths along all our major roads with no paths currently would require a serious commitment by the town. It could be done, but we would need to either spend very large amounts of money or make the roads with problems (limited right of way, ledge, wetlands) one way in order to devote a lane

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Jennifer Goodman
No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam is a city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, as they are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me to have them on the trails. When I’m walking with bikes around, I hear the ‘on your left’ about

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Margaret Olson
Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're talking about when it comes to bikes on trails in Lincoln in 2022 is mostly kids with some adults on errands and short casual trips. The serious mountain bikers aren't interested. I'm guessing, but this is probably why our neighboring towns

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Barbara Peskin
I’ll just speak to one of the points here for now.. we are not helping the environment by inviting metro west groups to drive cars to Lincoln and park in our trail parking spaces to recreationally ride bikes. This point was made at the May forum and I concur. In terms of recreational bikers on

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Doug Carson via Lincoln
I think Margaret makes some great points here... Not only was Lincoln Guide Service attracting cyclists to Lincoln, but mountain biking was a relatively new sport in the 90s.  Boston folks were coming to the Lincoln trails to *try* mountain biking.  Those days are long gone...not because bikes

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Margaret Olson
Bikes are permitted on all trails in Weston and Concord. There are no special rules, at least not that are readily apparent by reading the trail guides and town websites. The International Mountain Bikers Association has a trail etiquette guide ( https://www.imba.com/ride/ride-vibes) that most

Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Margaret Olson
I'd like to remind everyone that bikes are permitted on the Weston and Concord town trails with no adverse effects that this regular walker (24 years) can detect. Nor have I heard that there are problems on those trails. I am often on the Weston trails as I live near them. Twenty five years ago

[LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

2022-06-01 Thread Barbara Peskin
*Correction - 8 miles to 19...* Hi Lincoln Talk, I haven't had a chance to read all the comments but I know people have mentioned that the Conservation Commission is meeting tonight and vote on whether to enact proposed changes to trail use that include going from 8 to 19 miles of trails for