RE: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Imri Zvik
I cannot discuss this further when you refuse to give ANY factual data. You publicy trash people (the abuse@ and all the other people behind that ISP) with quite a harsh words, and refuse to back it up with facts. You, yet again, dismiss my attempts to help you, saying it's won't help (???). It

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread sara fink
Why ISP will spend time to block spammers, when they spend their time to block/shape/inspect p2p, voip and other protocols. After all this saves much more money. I would like to ask a more general question. If spammers from abroad use Israeli ISP, it means that their systems were already

RE: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Imri Zvik
1. This is not a question, but a statement, and quite a stupid one if I may. Do you really expect a serious answer? How are those related? 2. Please clarify this question. From: sara fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri 25/07/2008 13:49 To: Imri

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread sara fink
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Imri Zvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. This is not a question, but a statement, and quite a stupid one if I may. Do you really expect a serious answer? How are those related? Indeed it's a statement. If you didn't understand the sarcasm, too bad. 2. Please

Re: Traffic Shaping with OpenVPN

2008-07-25 Thread sara fink
There is a program called trickle. It shapes everything you want. download speed and upload speed. All you have to do is run a command lie this: trickle -d some speed -u other speed your application. In this case it will be vpn. I used it for p2p application. Homepage:

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Arik Baratz
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Imri Zvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot discuss this further when you refuse to give ANY factual data. You publicy trash people (the abuse@ and all the other people behind that ISP) with quite a harsh words, and refuse to back it up with facts. So don't.

RE: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Imri Zvik
Why do you think any system was hacked? It seems you do not understand how it works - they don't hack into any ISP managed system. They don't need to. They either: 1. phish the username and password. 2. get it from *your* computer using a trojan. 3. try and guess easy passwords/usernames. 4.

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/7/25 Imri Zvik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why do you think any system was hacked? It seems you do not understand how it works - they don't hack into any ISP managed system. They don't need to. They either: 1. phish the username and password. 2. get it from *your* computer using a trojan. 3.

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread sammy ominsky
On 25/07/2008, at 18:54, Dotan Cohen wrote: A very friendly and knowledgeable Frenchman from the Debian list just emailed me about an Israeli spammer that is sending him megabytes of spam everyday- in Hebrew! It appears that this is a case of (4) from your list. How do I determine the ISP from

Article in Yediot Petah Tikva from today

2008-07-25 Thread Omer Zak
According to this article (pg. 30-31) in one of Petah Tikva's local newspapers, the municipal education department decided to switch to Linux. Congratulations to the unnamed activists who did the public relations work behind the curtains! --- Omer --

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread sara fink
On 7/25/08, Imri Zvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you think any system was hacked? It seems you do not understand how it works - they don't hack into any ISP managed system. They don't need to. They either: 1. phish the username and password. 2. get it from *your* computer using a

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting

2008-07-25 Thread Ariel Biener
On Friday, 25 בJuly 2008 14:12, sara fink wrote: Hacking into the system- privelege escalation- spamming (and this is only one aspect after the system was hacked). DDos is a much nicer effect from the hacker standpoint of view. Actually, this is not quite so. The hackers/hacking scene has

Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting [summary and stop]

2008-07-25 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thursday, 24 בJuly 2008 23:39, Oron Peled wrote: While I do have a faint hope to see this thread die eventually, and I avoided saying anything so far, I do want to make one or two contributions, mostly factual, and some based on my own experience and beliefs, so bear with me. 1. SPAM is here