Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il: Because most households in israel do not buy their office... It would be stupid to assume they do. Moreover - the school headmaster does not assume that either. He/she knows most people just have their office installed, and they care nothing

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Boaz Rymland boaz.ryml...@gmail.com: I bet it cannot read my teacher's  document!: a table full of oversized text, but mostly - toner/ink eating, useless, stupid^H^H^H^H^H images that never, and I mean never, really align in the needed cells but rather appear somewhere else in the

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:23, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: It depends. I can't speak to it directly, my Hebrew level is such that a crayon would be enough, but my son who is in high school was told by the school to use Microsoft Office for Windows because there were

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Boaz Rymland boaz.ryml...@gmail.com: of course the whole reason to this thread and me contacting the principal is the fsck'ed up document. The document appears badly in LibreOffice and Google docs (imported). Boaz, please send to me the document so that I can file OOo / LO bugs.

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org: How about suggesting that such docs should be exported into HTML (which Word is capable of doing, IIRC) before emailing? It would be nice if the creator could look at the HTML in a browser to verify that it looks OK. of course, the browser is

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 15:52, Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I can't seem to change page numbering (i.e suppress page numbering on some pages) or change head/footer format. One thing that microsoft does ok (but messes up a whole lot of others in return). For this you need to define a

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 16:38, Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com wrote: Another issue is that at schools the kids are asked to use a site named 'ofek' which it doesn't run under linux and my kids are force to run windows in vmware,... Thanks, I just wrote to them. another site that kids have

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
2012/2/5 Mordechai Behar mordecha.be...@mail.huji.ac.il: Those are just developer tools, and even then, only a few institutions in Israel are accepted as viable places of study that will allow a student to download the software. A better system is the MSDAA (Microsoft Developers Academic

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 02:43, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: If not there are some free-as-in-beer plugins available for MS Office to support the OpenDocument formats. There was a Sun plugin, which was covered in the above interoperability paper, but:  * It needed some registration to

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This is a perfect time to explain: 1) They cannot have everything they want 2) Life is unfair 3) Some people (the management of that site) are irresponsible and hurt others That is how my 5 and 3 year old daughters would hear it in this

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 16:38, Meir Michanie me...@riunx.com wrote: Another issue is that at schools the kids are asked to use a site named 'ofek' which it doesn't run under linux and my kids are force to run windows in vmware,... The tech support representative for Ofek says that the site will

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:55, geoffrey mendelson I see it differently. Not because I like it, or agree with it, but because I am a cynic and believe the Israeli mindset to be different. I see it that they will say that they have a limited budget and the cost of providing the service to Windows

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On 02/05/2012 10:26 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Boaz Rymland wrote: yuck! So it was ok for SUN to buy StarOffice and give it away in order to reduce MS/Office sales? OpenOffice's free price and open source was a marketing tool too. Bad because it's dumping, a

Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

2012-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 22:09, Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.net wrote: I, for one, use quite a lot of code long abandoned by it's authors. troll I knew that I'm not the last KDE 3 lover out there! /troll -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com