applications (and
applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
And can something be done about it ??
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5:55.44 /usr/libexec/netspeed_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=
The network monitoring applet - shows a small box with the amount of
bytes
On Sunday 11 February 2007, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
Eli Marmor wrote:
The programs were also friendlier, because all the options in the
(limited) UI/menus/etc were textual, in simple English, and not
graphical icons that you must be a genious to guess what the programmer
meant. If icons
On Friday, 9 בFebruary 2007 23:55, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Like Chinese idiograms, if you have a 100 different actions in a toolbar you
need to remember the 100 different pictures for them; These pictures are
rarely self-explanatory, and when you need a specific one it takes you a
long time to
Eli Marmor wrote:
The programs were also friendlier, because all the options in the
(limited) UI/menus/etc were textual, in simple English, and not
graphical icons that you must be a genious to guess what the programmer
meant. If icons were really friendlier than text, it could be useful in
Amos Shapira wrote:
Keep an eye for Andy S. Tannenbaum's keynote at LCA this morning on
http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Programme#head-6af3ad9cefbbb05127e86c3d2f00c2542a1bb75e
(I'm sure the slides/audio/video will show up later). He talks
exactly about this - how his PDP-11 with 64kb RAM used to
On 10/02/07, Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amos Shapira wrote:
Keep an eye for Andy S. Tannenbaum's keynote at LCA this morning on
http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Programme#head-6af3ad9cefbbb05127e86c3d2f00c2542a1bb75e
(I'm sure the slides/audio/video will show up later). He talks
On 10/02/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this mess. Wouldn't it have been better to use a textual menu? Of course
it
would, which is why the Start menu was finally added to MS-Windows. Too
bad
people continue to (ab)use the desktop.
I never use my Linux desktop to keep icons, at
On 17/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME
applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
I usually see a problem after about a week of usage
Memory-usage in a modern OS is complicated, as many people on this list have
already shown. While most users will cry memory leak and give out
incorrect observations (and power-users can often get very technical
speaking about something they don't thoroughly understand), their complaints
do
Hi,
Gnome clock applet is not a clock, but a huge process with
evolution data server and client code involved. You are talking about
its menus. Take into account that these are evolution menus.
If you click on the GNOME clock applet, calendar appears.
If you double click on a day in the
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 10:44 +0200, Moshe Gorohovsky wrote:
Hi,
Gnome clock applet is not a clock, but a huge process with
evolution data server and client code involved. You are talking about
its menus. Take into account that these are evolution menus.
If you click on the GNOME clock
You are right, GNOME clock consumes too much memory for its tasks.
Briefly checking clock.c
(http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-panel/trunk/applets/clock/clock.c?rev=10182view=markup)
I can not see a reason for this memory consumption.
The calls to evolution code and the evolution data usage
On 16/01/07, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Oded, people...
Few weeks ago, I worked temporarily at a small company, and they gave
me a PC which was with Athlon XP (if I recall it was 1.6 Ghz or
something) with 756MB RAM to work with.
So, I installed CentOS 4.4, upgraded my KDE
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:40 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Let's compare a few clock applications:
app VIRTRES NOTE
xdaliclock3756796
oclock36321540
xclock85442976
kclock.kss25840
On 17/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME
applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
I usually see a problem after about a week of usage - after a reboot it
behaves itself for a few days. I
And can something be done about it ??
Just as an example at how ludicrous the situation is (and the reason
that my relatively powerful laptop is grinding to a halt at the most
opportune times of the day), disregarding the things that need to be
big, such as Evolution which I'm willing to let go
VIRT stands for the virtual size of a process, which is the sum of
memory it is actually using, memory it has mapped into itself (for
instance the video card's RAM for the X server), files on disk that
have been mapped into it (most notably shared libraries), and memory
shared with other
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Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:09 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
VIRT stands for the virtual size of a process, which is the sum of
memory it is actually using, memory it has mapped into itself (for
instance the
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Why are GNOME applications (and
applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
And can something be done about it ??
I'll offer only partial explanations; I hope that someone else can offer
better exlanations, and/or a solution.
Of course, my own
SWAP (key 'p')
The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. This field
is sometimes confusing, here is why:
Logically, you would expect this field really shows whether your program is
partially swapped out and how much. But the reality shows otherwise. Even
the Swap used
Hello Oded, people...
Few weeks ago, I worked temporarily at a small company, and they gave
me a PC which was with Athlon XP (if I recall it was 1.6 Ghz or
something) with 756MB RAM to work with.
So, I installed CentOS 4.4, upgraded my KDE 3.5.5, and upgraded
OpenOffice to the latest one, and
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:27 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Of course, my own solution is simple: I don't use neither Gnome, nor KDE. I
hand-pick individual applications which I like.
Not an option for me, but thanks for the offer :). I like to have my
apps tightly integrated.
X is here for
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
SWAP (key 'p')
The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image.
Are you talking about a field that shows how much memory a task has
swapped out ? I don't see where you can get that info - I only see
VIRT, RES
On 16/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And can something be done about it ??
In parallel to the other comments - I use GNOME 2.14.3 on Debian Etch on an
Athlon XP 2500+ (a 1.1GHz processor) with 1.25Gb ram and can't remember when
I last saw this system use its swap since I upgraded
run top
then press f and p
On 1/16/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
SWAP (key 'p')
The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image.
Are you talking about a field that shows how much memory a task has
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Oded Arbel wrote:
And can something be done about it ??
Don't run Gnome, run fvwm like me ;-) You want eye candy, you got eye
candy.
Peter
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On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:35 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
On 16/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And can something be done about it ??
In parallel to the other comments - I use GNOME 2.14.3 on Debian Etch
on an Athlon XP 2500+ (a 1.1GHz processor) with 1.25Gb ram and can't
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
SWAP (key 'p')
The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. This
field is sometimes confusing, here is why:
Logically, you would expect this field really shows whether your
program is partially swapped
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications
(and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
I usually see a problem after about a week of usage - after a reboot it
behaves itself for a few days. I rebooted this morning, and now Evo is
down to 400MB
Gnome has *footprint* for a logo - since forever, and for a very good
reason. Somehow people don't get the hint until it is too late...
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Gnome has *footprint* for a logo - since forever, and for a very good
reason. Somehow people don't get the hint until it is too late...
Yes ... the image is incomplete, it lacks an ideogram of the mouth in
which the foot is placed.
Peter
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:47:03PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in
slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the
GNOME/KDE development community, to remind them that this situation
cannot be continue, and some diet is
On Tuesday, 16 בJanuary 2007 12:47, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in
slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the
GNOME/KDE development community, to remind them that this situation
cannot be continue, and some diet is
and feeling the same as me? I understand that gnome is
not a pretty sight, but I would like to know what other people think of
KDE :)
ביום שלישי 16 ינואר 2007, 16:10, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications
(and applets) take so much [EMAIL
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications
(and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?:
My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in
slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the
GNOME/KDE development community
Hi,
I am using GNOME-2.14.3+ desktop, all compiled from sources on a linux
system, all compiled from sources with gcc-CVS-200608XX, using
-march=athlon-xp on Athlon 2600+ (1917 MHz) with 256 MB RAM.
I have experienced the GNOME memory usage problem before
glibc-CVS-20060813. After upgrading
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