Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No sirrie! lesser beings... use slickedit or kdevelop. slickedit cost

test via telnet (ignore)

2005-09-05 Thread erez0001
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Shell programing question

2005-09-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I have a shell programing question. I want to write a test that runs a certain background program if it doesn't already exist. What I want to test is this: If the pid file doesn't exist or The pid file relates to a non-existing process or The process is not what I'm trying to run

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 12:29 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim

buy ata (voip)

2005-09-05 Thread erez0001
i want to connect both my analog phone and line to asterisk i am looking where i can buy a cheap ata that has both FXS and FXO in it i saw one on the net, was about 80$, but they didn't deliver to israel :-( anyone ? erez. btw: i am sending this mail via telnet to port 25 of my isp for some

Re: buy ata (voip)

2005-09-05 Thread Uri Even-Chen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw: i am sending this mail via telnet to port 25 of my isp for some reson, 3 mails i sent from google to the list didn't arrive. dunno why A few comments: 1. I think it's always better to use a mail client software for sending E-mail, and not send directly via

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 12:29:14PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that!

Re: Shell programing question

2005-09-05 Thread Alex Shnitman
(readlink /proc/`cat /var/run/pid`/exe | grep -q progname) will return 0 if it's the right program and 1 if it's not. In fact, that's exactly my problem. I want the 0 and 1 to be reversed. If I did: You can add -v to the grep command line, it will reverse its function. Or replace grep -q

Re: Shell programing question

2005-09-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Alex Shnitman wrote: You can add -v to the grep command line, it will reverse its function. It may help this particular case, but -v reverses the search criteria, not the overall result. Take a file that has the two lines: 1 2 Doing grep 1 file will result in 0 (found), while doing grep -v 1

Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
Hello all, I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable - Internet - ADSL - Win2K - Workstation - Work. I'm currently using the SSH port forwarding to gain access to my private network

Introduction to Xen

2005-09-05 Thread rosenrami
Hi, The Xen Project is gaining a lot of interest lately. I am following it for more than a year now. The Linux Journal had published yesterday an article I wrote, titled Introduction to the Xen Virtual Machine. If anyone is interested in reading it, he can find it in:

Re: sys / db performance block size

2005-09-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 9/5/05, Michael Ben-Nes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im setting up a Postgresql sql server on IBM x345, dual xeon, raid1 ( 2 disks ), raid10 ( 4 disks ). The db data will be stored on the RAID10 and will consist mostly of product table of 5 mil rows and keywords table with 60 mil rows. ..

Re: Shell programing question

2005-09-05 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Shell programing question: will return 0 if it's the right program and 1 if it's not. In fact, that's exactly my problem. I want the 0 and 1 to be reversed. If I did: Is that your only program - reversing the return code? This is easy, just use

Re: Shell programing question

2005-09-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 9/5/05, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Shnitman wrote: You can add -v to the grep command line, it will reverse its function. It may help this particular case, but -v reverses the search criteria, not the overall result. Take a file that has the two lines: 1 2

RE: sys / db performance block size

2005-09-05 Thread Tzahi Fadida
First, its better to ask the experts on this matters at pgsql-general@postgresql.org It is not definitive that for postgresql you'd better set 8kb block size since the OS already coalleses the files close together anyway and there is no guarentee the page will be aligned to the hardware block

RE: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I use cscope instead of the regular ctags in gvim. Regards, tzahi. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilboa Davara Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:44 AM To: IL List Subject: Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE On Sun,

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Alex Shnitman
I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable - Internet - ADSL - Win2K - Workstation - Work. Faced with almost exactly the same situation a couple of years ago, I used vtun

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:06:23PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable - Internet - ADSL - Win2K - Workstation - Work. If you can ssh to home

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:06:23PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Hello all, I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable - Internet - ADSL - Win2K - Workstation - Work. I'm

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 14:59 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:06:23PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Hello all, I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:06:23PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Hello all, I looking to create a permanent connection between my home network and the private network I have at work. The setup is as follows: Home - Firewall Cable - Internet - ADSL - Win2K - Workstation - Work. I'm

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
Thanks. Vtun works great. The only thing that concerns me is the password issue (that sits inside the /etc/vtund.conf) I assume that the password is being exchange encrypted, right? Beside creating the vtun connection over SSH, is there any other way to secure vtun? Gilboa On Mon, 2005-09-05 at

devfs - gone

2005-09-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, The new kernel (2.6.13) has removed support for devfs. While I certainly understand why devfs is not on by default, it seems that removing it altogether is a bit harsh. Devfs has been a great way to quickly (say - inside an initrd) get a clear picture of what hardware is available, as

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Alex Shnitman
Vtun works great. Glad to hear that. The only thing that concerns me is the password issue (that sits inside the /etc/vtund.conf) I assume that the password is being exchange encrypted, right? Beside creating the vtun connection over SSH, is there any other way to secure vtun? Hey,

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-05 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote about devfs - gone: Devfs has been a great way to quickly (say - inside an initrd) get a .. My main question is - does anyone know of a good alternative? I believe what you're looking for is udev, isn't it? Check out

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-05 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:24:34PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, The new kernel (2.6.13) has removed support for devfs. While I certainly understand why devfs is not on by default, it seems that removing it altogether is a bit harsh. Devfs has been a great way to quickly (say

Re: Setting up a private network behind a firewall.

2005-09-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilboa Davara wrote: Thanks. Vtun works great. The only thing that concerns me is the password issue (that sits inside the /etc/vtund.conf) I assume that the password is being exchange encrypted, right? Beside creating the vtun connection over SSH, is there any other way to secure vtun? Gilboa

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Peter
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No sirrie! Actually you can use

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Leonid Podolny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was very happy with cscope until I started working with kernel. For some reason, it was totally impossible to work with -- missing whole directory trees, function definitions, etc. I also tried eclipse, but the only thing that was able to reliably

OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread guy keren
hi, the background to my question, is that i find myself going to various places to give lectures, and i need to be able to run a linux environment with a given configuration. too often i have to rely on other people bringing their laptops (and i personally hate laptops). then i thought that

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:13:34AM +0300, guy keren wrote: hi, the background to my question, is that i find myself going to various places to give lectures, and i need to be able to run a linux environment with a given configuration. too often i have to rely on other people bringing

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Marc A. Volovic
I significantly disagree with Tsafrir. What you want and can use is a vortex86 machine/box. They are very small, have a very light power footprint, easy to add bits and pieces to, are a full i386 machine. They ARE very underpowered ;-). Have a look at the board that fits your every requirement

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:13:34AM +0300, guy keren wrote: the background to my question, is that i find myself going to various places to give lectures, and i need to be able to run a linux environment with a given configuration. too often i have to rely on other people bringing their

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:05:49AM +0300, guy keren wrote: [stuff deleted] p.s. you will _realy_ want to make sure you're using Makefiles, and not some proprietary project file format, in order to build your software, and so you'll want to make sure that any IDE you choose does not lock you

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Pablo 'merKur' Kohan
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 00:13 +0300, guy keren wrote: hi, the background to my question, is that i find myself going to various places to give lectures, and i need to be able to run a linux environment with a given configuration. too often i have to rely on other people bringing their laptops

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 9/5/05, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The new kernel (2.6.13) has removed support for devfs. While I certainly Hi Shachar, Look in one of the latest kernel-traffick issues: 1. Devfs wasn't removed completly, only the option to configure it. I believe it will be easy

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-05 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:43:57AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: 1. Devfs wasn't removed completly, only the option to configure it. I believe it will be easy for you to find the right flags to enable it and add them manually. CONFIG_DEVFS, naturally. That would be the wrong thing to do, as

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Peter
http://openbrick.org/ there are others. The smaller you want, the less likely it will be to have a x86 cpu and the more likely it will be a mips or other risc unit. Then you will have to switch to netbsd to use it ;-) Peter =

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Pablo 'merKur' Kohan
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 04:17 +0300, guy keren wrote: - The beautiful Debian-based Nokia 770. did i mention that i don't need a cellphone? apparently i forgot ;) Hmmm... Is IBM doing stuff other than Mainframes ? ... And Apple other than Aquariums ? ;) Actually, the *one* function missing in

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:13:34AM +0300, guy keren wrote: the background to my question, is that i find myself going to various places to give lectures, and i need to be able to run a linux environment with a given configuration. too

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:17:26AM +0300, guy keren wrote: if they had this without the screen and without the keyboard, and with two PS/2 outlets - i'd be a happy camper ;) How about a PC-104 system. It's a single board about 4x6 inches. The ones I've used have an x86 processor (various

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-05 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Sorry but: 2.9 pounds = 1.31541787 kilograms Regarding PS/2 entries - I bought from the local Cosmos supermarket a USB small cable which has 2 PS/2 female connectors (mouse, keyboard). Cost: 31.90 NIS it does, however, remind me that i'll need an ethernet controller (this also solves the

Telux: Network Programming by Eddie Aronovich on 21/August

2005-09-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On 9 September 2005 (this Sunday) the Tel Aviv Linux Club will meet again to hear the second part of Eddie Aronovich' presentation about Network Programming. The time of day is 18:30 and the place is Schreiber building, room 007 of Tel Aviv University. More information can be found at the

Re: Telux: Network Programming by Eddie Aronovich on 21/August

2005-09-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 05:27, Shlomi Fish wrote: On 9 September 2005 (this Sunday) the Tel Aviv Linux Club I'm afraid that the correct date is 11 September 2005. (still Sunday) Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards, Shlomi Fish