Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Richard Rognlie via mailop
I'm not seeing deferrals but some of my users are reporting that they're not seeing emails coming from my play by email service. I've double checked the logs and gmail is accepting the messages. So anything happening to user mail is under the covers on the gmail side. Richard On Sat, Dec 30,

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread sam via mailop
Gmail recently changed how they calculate domain reputation within the last two months. Domains that didn't encounter issues before are now experiencing problems. I'm not entirely certain about the specific changes on Gmail's end, but I have observed these issues across multiple client

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Simon Wilson via mailop
I've added a gmail.com-specific transport, with a recipient_limit set to 2 (so it does not become per-recipient instead of per-domain), a concurrency limit of 1 and a 10s rate delay. For the amount of email we send this should not be problematic. I'll see if we can then build up a better rep

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky via mailop
On Sat, 2023-12-30 at 12:48 -0800, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: > If that's what the problem is, then that can easily be set with the > following Postfix setting without the need for customization scripts: > > default_destination_recipient_limit = 1 > >

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
If that's what the problem is, then that can easily be set with the following Postfix setting without the need for customization scripts: default_destination_recipient_limit = 1 Documentation for this setting is available at:

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Sean Kamath via mailop
I have nearly the exact same setup and usage you do. I got the same deferral when sending an email to <20 friends, of which about 15 were on Gmail. Exactly the same results as you got. Fortunately, I found I could schedule one recipient at a time (using opensmtpd) and each message went

Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> > > recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due > > > malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com): > > > > > >To: mailop@mailop.org > > Unrelated to the question of whether or not @ merits escaping or quoting... > > I personally wouldn't put an email

Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
> > recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due > > malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com): > > > >To: mailop@mailop.org Unrelated to the question of whether or not @ merits escaping or quoting... I personally wouldn't put an email address in the

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Simon Wilson via mailop
Thanks all. I'll answer comments here in one email. I use a single mail host (mail.simonandkate.net) as MX for a range of family domains on a fixed/business IP address through a high quality ISP (not a variable IP, not in a dial-up block). I've had the same IP address for about 7 years. It has

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Eduardo Díaz Comellas via mailop
I've seen problems like this because of ISP listing large net locks as "dialup" and not supposed to send email directly. Check spamhaus' PBL: https://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/ Best regards El 30 de diciembre de 2023 7:40:59 CET, Simon Wilson via mailop escribió: >I know, I'm not alone in

Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, Slavko via mailop wrote: Hi, recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com): To: mailop@mailop.org AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus my MTA is right, but... Please,

Re: [mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
Indeed, you are correct -- according to section 3.2.3 in RFC 5322, the at ("@") symbol counts as a "special" character that's categorized seprarately from "atext," and an example in Appendix A demonstrates quoting when a special character is present: RFC 5322 ::

[mailop] Malformed To: header

2023-12-30 Thread Slavko via mailop
Hi, recently i see messages from this ML rejected by my MTA, due malformed To: header (from postmas...@inter-corporate.com): To: mailop@mailop.org AFAIK, the display name have to be quoted (@ char in it), thus my MTA is right, but... Please, am i too strict with this syntax check or this

[mailop] Solution to SMTP Smuggling -- postfix smtpd update for Debian (Linux) v12/bookworm

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
If you're using Postfix on Debian Linux, this will likely be of interest to you... The updated Postfix v3.7.9 that can prevent the SMTP Smuggling problem by introducing the "smtpd_forbid_bare_newline" configuration setting is now available on Debian (Linux) v12.4. I just

Re: [mailop] Gmail now deferring email which meets their published reqs

2023-12-30 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
It's definitely worth it to run your own eMail system (in my opinion). I think people should be able to do this if they want to, although one of the challenges that sometimes arises is which IP netblocks their eMail servers are in. If your server is operated at home, you may