Re: [marxmail] The price we pay for having upper-class legislators

2024-05-04 Thread RKOB
Thanks a lot! Am 04.05.2024 um 10:12 schrieb Dayne Goodwin: Opinion by Jamelle Bouie, The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/opinion/working-class-wealthy-legislators.html The Price We Pay for Having Upper-Class Legislators April 30,

[marxmail] Article on Survey on Inequality

2024-05-04 Thread John Edmundson
I found this interesting. People it seems know the system works in the interests of the elite. The scary thing is that with results similar for people on the right and on the left, people can be prone to swing right when faced with declining living standards. We already know this of course, so we

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

2024-05-04 Thread John Edmundson
Marx said we should be where the workers are. The workers aren't in those parties any more, because as we all know they long since ceased to be mass workers' parties. He didn't say we should vote the way they vote. He said we should be leading them towards a better politics and a better world.

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

2024-05-04 Thread Marv Gandall
On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 04:32 PM, Charlie wrote: > > Marv asserts, "the working class masses ... identify the Democratic, > Labour and other left-centre parties with the advent of the welfare state > and the conservative parties with having resisted it and wanting it > dismantled." Another

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

2024-05-04 Thread Charlie
Marv asserts, "the working class masses ... identify the Democratic, Labour and other left-centre parties with the advent of the welfare state and the conservative parties with having resisted it and wanting it dismantled." Another fact-free assertion. *Compare 2008:* "Election-night polling

[marxmail] Israelis see pro-Palestine protests as latest incarnation of Jew hatred

2024-05-04 Thread Dennis Brasky
What else can be expected from an oppressor concerning their oppressed victims? https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/03/israelis-voice-sadness-and-defiance-over-gaza-protests-on-us-campuses -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

2024-05-04 Thread Chris Slee
Marv's comment may be true in general, but sometimes the actions of liberal capitalist governments antagonise the working class to such an extent that workers either don't vote at all or vote for right wing parties. For example, some sections of the working class that voted for Obama in 2008

[marxmail] Five Lessons for Palestine Activists From the ’60s Student Left

2024-05-04 Thread Dayne Goodwin
by Jeremy Gong, Jacobin, May 3 https://jacobin.com/2024/05/five-lessons-for-palestine-activists-from-the-60s-student-left -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30218): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30218 Mute This Topic:

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

2024-05-04 Thread Marv Gandall
On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 09:24 PM, John Edmundson wrote: > > We've had 100 years of failure by these parties. Yet people still want us > to support them. Why? The short answer is because the working class masses still prefer them to the right-wing parties which they view as the greater threat to

Re: [marxmail] Why Marxism opposes individual terrorism-'Terrorism' as a strategy for liberation

2024-05-04 Thread John A Imani
'Terrorism' 1 as a strategy for liberation "The initial Arab public response to Hamas’s acts of terror set a secular and moderate tone. Hamas’s October 7 actions conflated the boundaries between legitimate resistance to the Israeli occupation and siege of the Palestinian territories, which

[marxmail] The liberal establishment and the Rosenberg case

2024-05-04 Thread Mark Baugher
https://monthlyreview.org/2024/01/01/judge-irving-kaufman-the-liberal-establishment-and-the-rosenberg-case/ I just read MM's article and recommend it for the insights it gives on US liberalism: "Liberal democracy is fine as long as the basis of the system is not threatened. When it is, well,

[marxmail] Attack on U.C.L.A. Encampment Stirs Fears of Clashes Elsewhere

2024-05-04 Thread Dayne Goodwin
The first big pro-Israel counter demonstration was on Sunday in Los Angeles, home to large Israeli and Jewish populations. More are planned in the coming days. by Miriam Jordan, Reporting from Los Angeles New York Times, May 3, 2024

Re: [marxmail] The price we pay for having upper-class legislators

2024-05-04 Thread Dayne Goodwin
Opinion by Jamelle Bouie, The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/opinion/working-class-wealthy-legislators.html The Price We Pay for Having Upper-Class Legislators April 30, 2024 A movement to weaken child labor laws has roots in the

Re: [marxmail] The price we pay for having upper-class legislators

2024-05-04 Thread RKOB
Very interesting! Would it be possible to send the NYT article as a text? Am 04.05.2024 um 00:25 schrieb Dayne Goodwin: Utah is one of 10 states in which not a single state lawmaker works or has recently worked in an occupation that researchers would define as working class. by Jamelle Bouie,