Thank you, Hari. VERY THOUGHTFUL -- will require re-reading and more
thought --- BUT you have correctly hit on the issue that "bothers" me ---
and (on first read) I believe there does not appear to be any kind of
"easy" answer ---
quick thought about "nation" and religion --- Oftentimes, a
Michael M:
Honestly, I was hesitant about wading into the national question matter that
you raised. Because it is an incredibly complex matter which starts from the
definition of 'what is a nation?". This postulate as expressed here, will
inevitably spark differences. None will be easily
South Africa is an example where apartheid was replaced by a formally
democratic state. Unfortunately South Africa remains capitalist and
economically extremely unequal.
At present the Israeli ruling class rejects such an outcome. But if the US
government, under pressure from the mass
The "Oslo process" was thirty years ago. If a two-state solution was really
possible, it would have already happened by now. To the extent that such a
solution was ever really possible, the conditions that would have made it a
live option have long since passed.
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My reading of history is that single nation states rarely have existed in fact,
have sometimes had ethnic strife, but have frequently not had that kind of
strife. For example, for most of its history ethnic conflict was minimal in the
Ottoman empire.
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:12 PM, Michael Meeropol wrote:
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> After all the murder and mayhem between Israeli Jews and Palestinian
> Christians and Muslims can they come together in a democratic secular
> state?
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> Despite the partition of India and Pakistan, I knew many Indians who have
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Michael - We'll never know if a two-state solution could have been achieved
in Palestine/Israel, but now with 700,000 religious fanatic settlers
allowed to illegally be in the West Bank, the only way they can be removed
would be by the Israeli military, which isn't going to happen.
On Mon, Apr
RE: A single democratic state in Palestine ...
Here's a problem I have had ever since many people have (perhaps rightly
--- I am relatively ignorant) concluded that a two-state solution is
impossible
Can different "groups" however identified --- either racially as in the US
---
The Two-State solution mantra has allowed policymakers to avoid confronting
the reality that partition is unattainable in the case of Israel and
Palestine, and illegitimate as an arrangement originally imposed on
Palestinians without their consent.
