Re: Please explain the pkg_check F option, thank you.

2018-02-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:14:51PM +, Zsolt Kantor wrote: > What exactly does the pkg_check -F option? If I use it, it does some > filesystem check, and some "Locating unknown files". > > At the end I get: "Locating unknown files: ok", "Locating unknown > directories: ok", and a long list

Re: wxallowed flag

2018-01-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 01:52:10PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:56:15PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Is this a really good idea to keep wxallowed flag on /us

Re: wxallowed flag

2018-01-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:56:15PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > Hi! > > Is this a really good idea to keep wxallowed flag on /usr/local by > default? Is this so scary that many poop software will break (this is > not a big loss at all)? After all not enabling this flag by default is > the right thing

Re: openbsd code coverage

2018-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:40:33AM +0100, Aron Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm working on measuring OpenBSD code coverage. > > > Code coverage of what? The regression-tests make target? > > Cheers > Aron Obviously.

Re: mpv zombie process, lock sound device upon suspending process

2017-12-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 12:21:23PM -0200, x9p wrote: > > On Tue, December 26, 2017 11:44 am, Klemens Nanni wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 08:56:12AM -0200, x9p wrote: > >> If someone can give it a try, I had found no solution to free the sound > >> device or to kill a > >> mpv zpmbie

Re: Why would you use make show rather than make -V in ports?

2017-12-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:57:27PM +, Thomas Levine wrote: > The normal port Makefile includes this "show" target. > > $ grep -A3 ^show: /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk > show: > .for _s in ${show} > @echo ${${_s}:Q} > .endfor > > Why would one use it rather than

Re: TRIM on SSD

2017-12-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 09:31:40PM -, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2017-12-06, ti...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > > If TRIM would be implemented someday, one thing that would be > > neat would be that crypto and other softraid would propagate the > > TRIM. That would

Re: obligatory leaving letter

2017-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 02:26:44AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Admittedly, if you look at the list of developers, it is impossible > to deny that OpenBSD is not the most succcessful project ever with > respect to inclusiveness. I had to do a double-take to grok that one. EDOUBLENEGATIVEABUSE

Re: obligatory leaving letter

2017-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 05:17:05PM -0600, Jay Williams wrote: > As a new user to OpenBSD, who is trying to learn as much as I can, seeing a > message like this is very disheartening. OpenBSD's security focus and passion > for clean, minimal and secure code is something that the world definitely >

Re: Keeping up to date with ports and putting ports/pobj on wxallowed filesystem

2017-11-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 02:04:39PM -0500, Jeff wrote: > Is this a rational solution to the problem? I'm somewhat regretting > going this route as, unlike with pkg_add, building some ports from the > tree pulls in more dependencies than via pkg_add (I am assuming that > these are build dependencies

Re: How help about to review FAQ?

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:49:57PM +0100, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD" wrote: > Thank you! :D > > Do I have to create a new mail with just the page name to put the > corrections proposals I was talking about "OpenBSD/macppc" page? > if you're familiar with cvs and diff, best way is to cook an

Re: How help about to review FAQ?

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 09:54:32PM +0100, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD" wrote: > Hi. > > My question is how help about to review FAQ. Where submit corrections? > > Example with https://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html > > => Into "Getting and installing OpenBSD/macppc" section, it wrote: > boot

Re: FOSDEM 2018 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 06:54:56AM +0100, somebody wrote: > Hold on a sec, that's not my nick. I'm provisionally using my bf's > account (with permission!). Just saying since this will end up in the > archives and it shouldn't be ascribed to him. Not my problem. You're on a technical list,

Re: pkg_info fails for non-installed packages when PKG_CACHE is set to a directory the current user can't write to

2017-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 11:51:52AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:05:53PM +0200, Lari Rasku wrote: > > Oct 27 snapshot, amd64. > > > > When PKG_CACHE is set: > > > > $ cat /etc/profile > > export PKG_CACHE=/var/cache/pkg &

Re: pkg_info fails for non-installed packages when PKG_CACHE is set to a directory the current user can't write to

2017-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:05:53PM +0200, Lari Rasku wrote: > Oct 27 snapshot, amd64. > > When PKG_CACHE is set: > > $ cat /etc/profile > export PKG_CACHE=/var/cache/pkg > > To a directory the current user lacks write access to: > > $ touch /var/cache/pkg/somefile >

Re: chronium ports

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 04:27:55AM +0900, Tuyosi T wrote: > what a fast machine Espie uses ! Nope, it's called a dedicated cluster... I don't even pay for it, fortunately. But there are a few clusters dedicated to either building package snapshots OR to quickly test various things,

Re: About WPA2 compromised protocol

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:58:45PM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:45:24PM +0200, Erik van Westen wrote: > > But did every manufacturer make the same mistake then? > > Yes. To sum up what I know: - WPA2 is still sound cryptographically; - there was no formal analysis

Re: chronium ports

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 05:28:19PM +0900, Tuyosi T wrote: > i build my openbsd snapshots machine from source > (kernel , userland and xenodm ) > > the PC complied from source works more correctly > as if ready made suite is not my just size , > tailered one is very fit , so i think . Unless you

Re: Japanese Input in xterm

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 08:56:36PM +0200, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > On 17/10/15 19:43, Cág wrote: > >Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > > > >>Thanks a lot. But you are using sakura and not xterm for typing > >>Japanese. I want to use xterm so that I can leave more dependencies > >>behind :) > > > >You

Re: pkgconfig not available

2017-10-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 09:55:40AM -0400, Daniel Villarreal wrote: > re: pkgconfig not available > > I see pkgconfig as being available in OpenBSD 6.2 when I run pkg_mgr, > but I don't see it in several mirrors. Please advise. > > Thanks, > Daniel Villarreal Did you try running it ? pkgconfig

Re: A stupid question, re: xargs(1)

2017-10-14 Thread Marc Espie
As Theo said already, the main issue there is that it's totally non-standard, so you end up writing scripts that won't work anywhere but on OpenBSD. The problem you're trying to solve is quoting in shell. It's basically broken by design. There will always be fun patterns in names that do various

Re: gtar: ambiguous package

2017-10-09 Thread Marc Espie
We still ship a few packages with a static flavor, for the paranoid who wants a version that will work even if they manage to fuck up most of everything else on their system. I'll admit I find fewer and fewer valid use cases to these, as opposed to rebooting on bsd.rd and fixing things another

Re: X turn off monitors automatically, not with mplayer running

2017-10-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 06:52:53AM -0300, x9p wrote: > Hi > > If am running a video with mplayer, pause it, and lock X with xlock - my > monitors are not turned off for inactivity. > > If mplayer is not running, after a couple of minutes my monitors are > automatically turned off. > > I am

Re: regarding the default path for pkg_add in -current

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 08:57:10PM -0600, and...@quickstick.net wrote: > Hello Folks !! > > Regarding GENERIC.MP #115 > > I have a feeling you are about to roll into 6.2, however I just want to > bring the following to your attention in case it matters. > > I just did a clean install of

Re: What decides which port becomes a package?

2017-09-11 Thread Marc Espie
I'm just discovering the issue and the thread with it. I don't quite understand why we don't talk it over with Colin Percival.

Re: ftp.eu.openbsd.org no longer accepts anonymous ftp?

2017-08-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 12:16:14PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On 08/19/17 11:44, Andreas Thulin wrote: > > Also, yesterday's > > > > # pkg_add -u > > > > failed for me, apparently for that same reason. > > Yes, that would happen. Then again, changing ftp:// to https:// in >

Re: Changing default compiler for usr/ports buiding

2017-07-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:47:59PM +0300, Denis wrote: > I'm trying to change default compiler to build some ports. > Tried to do it using bsd.port.mk and by system variables CXX=eg++ > CPP=egcc, but nothing changes while building a port. > > How can I force the default gcc 4.2 to egcc (gcc 4.9)?

Re: reordering libs failed - cannot find -lcompiler_rt

2017-07-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 08:24:41PM +0200, Mark Patruck wrote: > Short info. Installating comp61.tgz makes reorder_libs() work. > Somehow, nobody tested on arm64 without comp. Theo just fixed this, thanks (libcompiler_rt.a should indeed be in base)

Re: A question of lock usage in OpenBSD kernel code

2017-07-08 Thread Marc Espie
There are actually parts of style(9) that are frequently ignored. I just read over the 'declaring variables' and I'm puzzled. I don't do things that way. The "sorting by size" is from another era, especially when it contradicts itself by mixing up types and pointer to types, which is definitely

Re: A question of lock usage in OpenBSD kernel code

2017-07-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:02:44PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > J Doe wrote: > > Ok, thank you for clarifying that for me. I will proceed with development > > in C. As an aside - do OpenBSD developers track with the latest standard > > (C11), or is another standard preferred ? > > mostly c89.

Re: inquiring about setting wxallowed on /home mountpoint

2017-06-13 Thread Marc Espie
WXNEEDED is already a compromise. More compromise is fairly unlikely to happen...

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:55:04PM +0200, Nicolas Schmidt wrote: > > >> On 06/09/17 15:39, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: > >> Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system? > > > > You? No, I doubt it. > ... > > But, you are welcome, and invited > ... > > Nick. > > Nick, I don't think you were being either

Re: syspatch ideas

2017-05-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 08:36:21AM +, Michal Bozon wrote: > I think the justification is: > > Why do i even need to revert a patch? Only because something got broken > by the last syspatch command, that may have applied multiple patches. > I might not now which patch caused the problem. > >

Re: OT: Recommendations for a CMS?

2017-05-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 11:33:52AM +1200, Wiremu Demchick wrote: > > I should mention that Drupal has a not-very-nice security track > record. A particularly good example: > https://www.drupal.org/SA-CORE-2014-005 This is maybe the only big security problem I've seen while working with

Re: OT: Recommendations for a CMS?

2017-05-07 Thread Marc Espie
Actually, I used to need a CMS for my former job, ended up going with Drupal. Not incredibly awful, especially since it's php. The design makes sense, it's actually reasonably clean, maintained, with lots of modules. And it *is* a CMS, as in you can have a full database of documents organized,

Re: Version skew?

2017-05-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 11:01:18PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > Also, if you look at the pkg_add man page, PKG_PATH is documented > without any mention that it is deprecated. That's because it isn't.

Re: Performance Clang

2017-04-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 07:46:00PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2017-04-20, Heiko wrote: > > > So I guess the main advantage is the license? > > Or is clang technically (binaries, debug) better? > > OpenBSD does not live in a bubble. If it did, we

Re: Performance Clang

2017-04-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:14:24PM +0200, Heiko wrote: > Thank you for the info. So you expect a lower time in future. If we eventually remove gcc 4.2.1, yes, the time will go down from clang+gcc to clang without gcc :) Apparently, it seems that lld might be better behaved than binutils ld in

Re: Python and wxallow in 6.1

2017-04-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 08:01:29AM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: > After upgrading my OpenNMS box to 6.1 (from 6.0) I noticed that the polling > scripts weren't running. I tracked it down to needing wxallow on /usr/local > so python2.7 would run (otherwise "access denied"). I think python2.7 >

Re: How does dpb sign packages in 6.1 ?

2017-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
dpb no longer does. Use pkg_sign(1) directly like sthen says. Before, signing directly during pkg_create(1) made some sense, since the archive was built just once with the signature inside. Now that the signature is outside, there is no gain to having pkg_create(1) sign directly, so that was

Re: HEADS up: how to cope with pre-release testing with pkg_add(1)

2017-03-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:28:42PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > So pkg_add will look for the release directory, and not find it yet because > > it's not out > yet. > > Is PKG_PATH ignored then? RTFM, I'm just making people aware of recent stuff that's fully documented. > > until the release

HEADS up: how to cope with pre-release testing with pkg_add(1)

2017-03-31 Thread Marc Espie
Just so that the subject makes it clear. This info already made it in various messages ont the mailing list. Right now, if you install OpenBSD, it says 6.1 without beta. So pkg_add will look for the release directory, and not find it yet because it's not out yet. pkg_add -Dsnap will make

Re: pkg_create ignores flags obsd 6.0

2017-03-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 07:48:09PM +0200, Panagiotis Atmatzidis wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to use "pkg_create" under OpenBSD to distribute a precompiled > binary along with linked libraries. > > I have a python script which I inherited, that creates a "+CONTENTS" > file containing the list

Re: Please: Is there ANY chance that Linux binaries might run again???

2017-03-09 Thread Marc Espie
To clarify, from what I remember, killing linux compat was not a political decision per-se ("emulation is bad"). Rather, it is that the emulation was 32 bits-only, and more and more out-of-date so completelely useless, and also not really very maintained, so it amounted to more code with possible

Re: Is OpenBSD using SHA1 anywhere?

2017-02-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:06:25PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:44:13PM +0100, minek van wrote: > > fyi, > > > > https://security.googleblog.com/2017/02/announcing-first-sha1-collision.html > > https://shattered.it/ > > Talking from t

Re: Is OpenBSD using SHA1 anywhere?

2017-02-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:44:13PM +0100, minek van wrote: > fyi, > > https://security.googleblog.com/2017/02/announcing-first-sha1-collision.html > https://shattered.it/ Talking from the ports side, ports and packages moved to SHA256 back in 2007/2008. Ports distinfo made it the only default

Re: pkg_add: ftp: connect: Invalid argument

2017-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 09:18:09AM -0800, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 6 February 2017 at 04:41, Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net> wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:31:45PM -0800, jungle boogie wrote: > >> On 02/04/2017 05:45 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > >> >On

HEADS UP: pkg_add supports installpath

2017-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
just committed, will be in the next series of snapshots. so, basic installs create /etc/installurl now, pkg_add uses it "by default" to create an installpath. pkg.conf(5) takes precedence (user defines are stronger than automatic defines): installpath = anything in pkg.conf will replace the

Re: pkg_add: ftp: connect: Invalid argument

2017-02-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:31:45PM -0800, jungle boogie wrote: > On 02/04/2017 05:45 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > >On Sat, 4 Feb 2017, jungle boogie wrote: > >>What's happening here? > >> > >>$ doas pkg_add -u > >>Error from http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/amd64/ > >>ftp:

Re: https for pkg_add?

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 03:47:42PM +0100, Kamil Cholewi??ski wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jan 2017, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Performance won't be ideal though, there's no pipelining or session > > resumption - it needs to do a full TLS negotiation for each package > > fetched

Re: pkg_add: signify broken pipe when running from script

2016-11-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 06:26:39PM +0100, Patrik Lundin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:09:23PM +0100, lvdd wrote: > > > > thank you Patrik. I just wanted to report that this solved the > > problem I am having with this since 1.5 months as well. Please read > >

Re: pkg_add: signify broken pipe when running from script

2016-11-19 Thread Marc Espie
Wondering if your script isn't passing some weird signal handling (such as ignoring some signals) through. I've had a few reports related to signify broken pipes, but I haven't been able to reproduce anything, so I'm not quite up to debugging problems I can't see...

Re: Oddness with pkg_add

2016-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 09:26:43PM -0400, trondd wrote: > On Thu, November 3, 2016 9:19 pm, trondd wrote: > > On Thu, November 3, 2016 9:07 pm, Chris Huxtable wrote: > >> Same as before unfortunately. > >> > >> # pkg_add -v nano > >> Error from

Re: quirks "unsigned package," "Can't find CONTENTS"

2016-10-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 08:47:31AM -0400, yary wrote: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Foo74 wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting the response. Do you know what from the error message > > shows that it was a -current build? I think I would have spent days > > figuring that

Re: some more info on pkg_add/fw_update changes

2016-10-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 03:15:18PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > - the new scheme is slightly more unflexible with respect to unsigned > data: by default, every .tgz is piped thru signify -Zs, so > pkg_add/pkg_info/fw_update WON'T even see any data if it's not signed. > Err

some more info on pkg_add/fw_update changes

2016-10-04 Thread Marc Espie
About a week ago, we switched to the new signing scheme by default. There are good reasons to bury the old signing scheme completely, so this is what's currently happening, there are some rough edges. Technically speaking, the new signatures are "outside", they're in the gzip header, and the only

Re: Forget mod_perl. I'm going to try to move to FastCGI and base http

2016-10-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:45:10PM -0700, Andrew Fresh wrote: > I gave a talk about moving from mod_perl to Plack and FastCGI at the local > perlmonger group. It was fairly straight forward and there are a fair number > of options on the CPAN, although I'm unsure which have ports. > >

Re: What is doas doing??

2016-09-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 02:45:26PM +0200, Murk Fletcher wrote: > Hi, > > Anybody ever been in a similar situation? > > % myscript_start > /etc/rc.d/myscript: need root privileges > % doas myscript_start > doas: myscript_start: command not found > % su > Password: > you are not in group wheel >

Re: DPB can't do it's job in 6.0

2016-08-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 08:06:09PM +0200, Noth wrote: > Hi misc@ > > > I'm a bit disappointed with dpb in 6.0, I haven't tried the chrooting > stuff but was hoping it could still work as before. All I can get it to do > now is start downloading src tarballs, and more often than not fail at

Re: tmpfs

2016-08-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 02:53:43AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 06:41 AM, Marko Cupa?? wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:48:46 +0300 > > Consus wrote: > > > > > Come on, both you and Theo are such drama queens. Shut up already. > > > > This. But I'd say

Re: What is OpenBSD's mechanism to ensure that *ONLY ONE* lib[e]stdc++ version is concurrently loaded in a process?

2016-07-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 09:40:36PM +0800, Tinker wrote: > The guys at #gcc (redi) call that "madness", if it's the case. Anyhow > looking forward to your clarification just to understand. The guys at GCC made a conscious decision to switch to GPLv3, and also to stop dropping platforms that we

Re: How make "pkg_add" auto-choose some package version for me when same package is available in more versions?

2016-07-05 Thread Marc Espie
How about you go read ports archive ? I posted a whole explanation of the branch mechanism in current. Plus you've got nicely documented stuff inside pkg_add(1) and the things it links to, for instance, packages-specs(7)

Re: How make "pkg_add" auto-choose some package version for me when same package is available in more versions?

2016-07-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 04:35:10PM +0200, Kamil Cholewi??ski wrote: > > But choosing and running the latest version automatically ? that's the > > computer equivalent of running blindfolded into traffic on a speedway. > > Many people run CURRENT, trunk, HEAD, 0.999-dev, sid, Arch, however you >

Re: How make "pkg_add" auto-choose some package version for me when same package is available in more versions?

2016-07-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 09:41:34PM +0200, Kamil Cholewi??ski wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jul 2016, Chris Bennett > wrote: > > This can't be done and should NOT be done. if you are asked to choose > > between two+ different versions, often that choice is based on the

Re: [Q] Building a release, how do I create install60.fs and install60.iso

2016-06-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 09:39:50PM -0400, Bryan C. Everly wrote: > Sorry if this is an obvious one but I've been all over the FAQ, read the > makefiles, etc. and cannot for the life of me figure out how those files > get created. I have everything else (all of the *.tgz files, etc.) just > not

Re: make optional servers insttall

2016-06-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 01:37:34PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 06:54:35PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:41:56PM +0300, > > wrote: > > > Split baseXY tarbail to serversXY and baseXY, th

Re: make optional servers insttall

2016-06-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:41:56PM +0300, wrote: > Split baseXY tarbail to serversXY and baseXY, this step will be optinize > disk usage. why the need for httpd, ldpd and other optional services for > desktop use case? Right, like it matters. Any package suite

Re: /usr/ and wxallowed

2016-06-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:45:25PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Yep, I have no idea why someone wouldn't. I like having nosuid > on less trusted /usr/local. > > It pretty much removes the need to do the security technique of find > suid, like is recommended on Linux almost by "default"? I

Re: Secure PKG_PATH for doas

2016-05-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 03:37:48PM +0100, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:39:46PM BST, Igor Mironov wrote: > > > Thank you Mart, Ted and Stuart--I understood that installpath in > > pkg.conf provides a secure default, and PKG_PATH should probably > > be used for overrides only (if

Re: ldconfig & chroot

2016-05-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 05:23:07AM -0400, Jiri B wrote: > While checking proot, it would be probably good to have an > option for ldconfig to work with specified root directory > like it is the case for linux ldconfig. So it would scan and > save hints file under specified "root" dir. What would

Re: TLS now supported on openbsd.org?

2016-05-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 08:42:32PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2016-05-09, arrowscr...@mail.com wrote: > > - Do you plan to support ftp.openbsd.org? Would be great to > > download packages with more security > > https is meant to provide privacy from eavesdroppers

Re: systrace removed? Why?

2016-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
There were some significant issues with systrace over the years. Race-conditiony things that make you go hum, oh shit is this thing more dangerous than what it's actually potecting. Plus semantic bugs. Like the time we had to hunt a really weird copy bug in the qt code until we realized it was

Re: Error pkg_add -ui 5.8 -> 5.9

2016-04-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 09:54:50PM -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > {snip} > --- -upower-0.99.3 --- > You should also run rm -f /var/db/upower/history-* > --- +cantarell-fonts-0.0.21 --- > You may wish to update your font path for /usr/local/share/fonts/cantarell >

Re: simultaneous sound as many users

2016-04-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 09:26:40AM +0200, Nils Reuße wrote: > On 04/01/2016 08:42 PM, Roman Gorelov wrote: > >My sndio configuration is default, OBSD 5.9. > >When I run a media file in e.g. mpv, and pause it without closing, and > >try to listen to smth in chrome _as another user_, there is no

Re: root partition is 105%, what will happen if I just leave it?

2016-03-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 11:49:37AM -0500, Nick wrote: > Hello, > > I used the default partition layout when I set up this system (5.8 - CD > release) a few weeks ago.. > > Just realised after a 'du -h' that the root partition is at 105%.. Now, I > know that OpenBSD has a safeguard in place of

Re: no bandwidthd src pkd in /usr/ports

2016-02-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:56:10AM +0530, Indunil Jayasooriya wrote: > Hi Misc, > > I have OpenBSD 5.5 64 bit gateway. UPGRADE. You're very badly out of date. That stuff is no longer supported at all. There are probably exploitable holes in it by now.

Re: e-commerce framework suggestion? medoc?

2016-02-24 Thread Marc Espie
For the eshop part, you can use ubercart (drupal module). It should be reasonably sound and maintained.

Re: Strange 'pkg_add -ui' log

2016-02-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:36:48PM +0100, Stefan Wollny wrote: > Hi there! > > Running amd64-current I update packages usually from > http://ftp.hostserver.de/ > > This evening system.tgz-files still date Feb 9th. > $ dmesg | grep Open > OpenBSD 5.9 (GENERIC.MP) #1870: Mon Feb 8 17:34:23 MST

Re: Can not get DPB to use _pbuild user

2016-02-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 12:01:19PM +0100, Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri wrote: > (I realized this thread should possible been sent to ports@, sorry) > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 09:42:47PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > On 2016-02-08, Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri

Re: VAX - are we dropping support in 5.9?

2016-01-25 Thread Marc Espie
It's dead Jim.

Re: output of pkg_check(1)

2015-11-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:47:40AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > The output of "pkg_check -x -v -D nosig" > (full log bellow) on current/amd64 confuses me. > > Firstly, > > System libs NOT in locate dbs: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 >

Re: Logging removal of dependent packages

2015-11-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 05:20:54PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > Hi misc@ readers, Marc, > > Interactive removal of a package with pkg_delete $pkg_name also asks > the removal of dependent packages (cool). > > This works OK and logs the removal of the package $pkg_name in messages > at the end

Re: Paris..

2015-11-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 04:10:53PM -0800, Ryan Freeman wrote: > Completely off-topic but I am concerned for the .fr devs.. > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/paris-police-report-shootout-at-restaurant-explosion-near-stadium/article27256201/ > > Can I get a ping to this thread from all

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:59:32AM -0700, français wrote: > I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one audit > report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find on > the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not >

Re: cdio(1) cdrip (error correction / why WAVE).

2015-08-24 Thread Marc Espie
As for complete cd ripping, abcde (in ports) comes to mind. It is a fairly horrible script, but it works like a champ, and can be easily configured to rip/tag/convert to the format of your choice.

Re: radeondrm firmware archive problem?

2015-08-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 08:29:11AM -0800, pstern wrote: fw_update no parameters was the first thing I tried. Nothing happened. fw_update -v reported no firmware needed to be updated. the radeondrm firmware was not installed in /etc/firmware as part of install. To boot this machine, I

Re: radeondrm firmware archive problem?

2015-08-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:59:15PM -0800, pstern wrote: hello: I recently put a couple of Dell optiplex 7010 machiens in operation using OpenBSD 5.6 and 5.7. Both machines have a radeon card in them. vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 7470 rev 0x00 I ran into the video going to

Re: doas.conf: omitting [as root] allows me to run a command as everybody?

2015-07-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:40:53PM +0200, Theo Buehler wrote: So omitting [as identity] allows me to run as every user, not just as root? Is this intentional? I think it's intentional. It's definitely what I would expect [as identity] is a restrictive modifier. If you want to only be able to

Re: Alleged OpenSSH bug

2015-07-25 Thread Marc Espie
There's one obvious thing I totally forgot to mention, but the initial spin put on this issue is *all wrong*. Calling that an OpenSSH bug is, pure and simple, slander. If anything, it is a PAM bug. Or you can say it's a system integration bug on FreeBSD. Calling that an OpenSSH bug just

Re: Sluggish/laggy browser behaviour

2015-07-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:22:14AM -0700, Nathan Van Ymeren wrote: Hi, I'm running the 19 July snapshot and am experiencing laggy tab behaviour in both Chromium and Firefox. Specifically, when opening and closing tabs I regularly experience noticeable and irritating pauses. The system is

Re: Alleged OpenSSH bug

2015-07-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:29:37PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: On 23 Jul 2015, at 10:06, Emilio Perea wrote: To me it looks like a mistimed April Fools' joke, but hope somebody more knowledgeable will respond:

Re: Chromium in the latest snapshot packages

2015-06-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 02:58:37PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: On 2015-06-22, Bryan C. Everly br...@bceassociates.com wrote: I wiped and re-loaded my laptop over the weekend with the latest snapshots and noticed that Chromium isn't in the amd64 snapshot package directory on any of

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:46:53PM +0200, Max Power wrote: Thank You Gilles for Your reply. Only the group is changed. But why the owner is remained the same [root]? On OpenBSD, I can not get root:root ? Tradition. Note that the description of wheel characteristics in FSF's Linux used to

Re: Robustness in ports fetch program?

2015-05-18 Thread Marc Espie
to another. Does every developer have perfect internet? That's very frustrating, maybe counterproductive in testing. Try a modem, you can probably find a free one. Connection interruptions and resets happen many times a day. On May 17, 2015 1:22 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: Why are you

Re: Robustness in ports fetch program?

2015-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:31:24PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: I'd seen this happen in 5.6 too, but I just caught an example of it in 5.7. My connection leaves a lot to be desired, but there's nothing I can do about that. I normally have FETCH_CMD set to use wget once I get it installed but

Re: offtopic: political correctness

2015-05-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 07:34:31PM -0400, dan mclaughlin wrote: this just reminded me of something from MANY years ago (15+). someone was complaining about the jive port (which still exists, ha!) for PC reasons, talking about litigation or some such. i loved Theo's response, which was run

Re: Collision with dbus-daemon-launch-helper and latest snapshot/packages

2015-04-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:59:08AM -0400, Jason Crawford wrote: Hello all, I updated to the latest snapshot (dmesg below) and when trying to update my packages to the lastest from ftp.eu.openbsd.org, I get: quirks-2.61 signed on 2015-04-05T21:43:07Z Collision in

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:38:21AM -0400, John Merriam wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:34:06 -0400 John Merriam wrote: I don't mind using ports instead of packages myself. But, I haven't tried OpenBSD on the desktop yet (routers/firewalls and

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:48:16PM -0400, dan mclaughlin wrote: if you want the version that the port build will produce do: $ (cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc/4.8/ make _print-packagename) gcc-4.8.4p2 there are alot of options for make that are in bsd.port.mk(5) (although the one i used above is

Re: Executable signing - a proposal

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:37:53PM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: For scripts that are set executable, it works exactly the same way - for everything else it won't work unless the interpreter is patched, it's still an overall massive improvement in security.

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